Comedy Arrested Development - Part 1

There is audio Spider-Fan. I don't think there is video. But yeah, hearing it just makes it more disturbing. There were the things that came out before. The guys clearly rallying around Tambor. But to do this, with Walters and Shawkat right there, trying to speak, being spoken over and then Walters breaks down, just makes it so much more stark imo. The only concern is for Tambor and it places their reaction to the Transparent situation in just a way more obvious light imo.

I am reading the article right now and I read the section in question. Yeah....that was bad. Like...very few times have I seen a group come off as poorly as they do here. Bateman especially. Why are is he lecturing Walter on how the industry works, when she has been in it longer than he has been alive? Just...wow. I have been on sets before. Yes, fights happen, but there is still a thing called abuse. Just because fights happen when people are trying to be creative as a collective group doesn't make abuse okay.
 
You are right. She has been doing this longer then he has been alive. So when she says nothing like this has happened to her before, I think his attempts to tell her this is just work as usual is just so overwhelmingly crappy, and his "apologizing" is playing the same game. It is just so telling that his concern is for Tambor. Oh, I won't do a 6th season if he doesn't do it. What the ****...
 
Jessica Walter gets put through enormous **** and still delivers the MVP of the show.
 
You are right. She has been doing this longer then he has been alive. So when she says nothing like this has happened to her before, I think his attempts to tell her this is just work as usual is just so overwhelmingly crappy, and his "apologizing" is playing the same game. It is just so telling that his concern is for Tambor. Oh, I won't do a 6th season if he doesn't do it. What the ****...

Agreed. Bateman just sounds like a scummy used car salesman. Just awful.

Jessica Walter gets put through enormous **** and still delivers the MVP of the show.

If there is one positive thing I took from this interview, it is that Jessica Walter is even more amazing than I already thought. I don't know how she does it.
 
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She kills me.
 
It's worth mentioning that it's not just the male stars from the show supporting Tambor. The creator Ron Howard and Netflix too. Actually, they're submitting Tambor for the Emmys.

I'll hate it if he gets a nom.

As much as I love the females from this show, I just hope it gets snubbed and cancelled.
 
I don't particularly care what a person's "quirks" and pressure points are. The point of fact is that there are very few industries out there that condone employees verbally harassing other employees in the workplace. I know for a fact that if I came in one morning in a crabby mood and just went off on my coworker, I'd be updating my profile on Linkedin later that night. Excuses need not apply. You just don't do it in a place of business. To say it's unprofessional is literally saying the least about it.

Bateman can ramble on all he wants about how the nature of their work is "not normal" and thus imply that actors are somehow exempt from this sort of behavior, but it's not even just about professional courtesy. It's basic human etiquette. You don't shout at people and belittle them. If you get frustrated with someone, you walk away for a few minutes and collect yourself. It requires minimal effort, but it displays some level of respect for the other individual/party. To stand there and berate people speaks of poor character, and there is simply no defending it.

The comments from Bateman, Cross, and Tambor are enormously disappointing, because they play right into the underlying issue with verbal/sexual harassment in the film/television industry. They normalize it, they treat it as if it's commonplace, they act like it's just the way it is. They think that because their line of work doesn't conform to a formal discipline structure that they are somehow excused from this sort of thing.

"His behavior was unacceptable, and he should absolutely be apologetic for it." That's literally all that they needed to say. What compelled them to keep shoving their feet further and further into their mouths boggles my mind.

It's not even just the actors. What the hell are the directors doing in these situations? Nobody is speaking up? At all? If someone threw a ***** fit and started screaming at people, I'd throw their ass off the set until they got hold of their wits.
 
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Notice how he is downplaying all of her experiences even in his 'apology'
 
I don't particularly care what a person's "quirks" and pressure points are. The point of fact is that there are very few industries out there that condone employees verbally harassing other employees in the workplace. I know for a fact that if I came in one morning in a crabby mood and just went off on my coworker, I'd be updating my profile on Linkedin later that night. Excuses need not apply. You just don't do it in a place of business. To say it's unprofessional is literally saying the least about it.

Bateman can ramble on all he wants about how the nature of their work is "not normal" and thus imply that actors are somehow exempt from this sort of behavior, but it's not even just about professional courtesy. It's basic human etiquette. You don't shout at people and belittle them. If you get frustrated with someone, you walk away for a few minutes and collect yourself. It requires minimal effort, but it displays some level of respect for the other individual/party. To stand there and berate people speaks of poor character, and there is simply no defending it.

The comments from Bateman, Cross, and Tambor are enormously disappointing, because they play right into the underlying issue with verbal/sexual harassment in the film/television industry. They normalize it, they treat it as if it's commonplace, they act like it's just the way it is. They think that because their line of work doesn't conform to a formal discipline structure that they are somehow excused from this sort of thing.

"His behavior was unacceptable, and he should absolutely be apologetic for it." That's literally all that they needed to say. What compelled them to keep shoving their feet further and further into their mouths boggles my mind.

It's not even just the actors. What the hell are the directors doing in these situations? Nobody is speaking up? At all? If someone threw a ***** fit and started screaming at people, I'd throw their ass off the set until they got hold of their wits.

On the front of the directors, I see 2 explanation if they didn't step in: 1 - This is normal to them as well and thus they're also guilty or 2 - They don't have a confrontational temperament. I've worked with directors on shorts who are afraid of confrontations, even if some type of intervention was required for the situation. So if they were these type of people that freeze when this happens, that is one thing. I don't want to judge those directors without knowing more about what happened and their role in it, but that would be my guess based on what little we know.
 
I'm disgusted at how they treated Jessica in this interview. How dare Bateman try to tell this 77 year old woman, who has been working in this ''industry'' since he was in diapers how she should feel.

That type of harrassment is not appropriate in any environment. I also didn't like how Tambor referred to Jessica as a 'walking acting lesson'. Good on Shawkat for speaking up.

This kind of sours me on those guys.
 
Jessica Walter gets put through enormous **** and still delivers the MVP of the show.

Yep. And she’s a genius without being a twisted genius. So it can be done. If people try.

I don’t think I’ll rush over to the new season. Maybe it is time to wrap things up. Then give shawkat and Walter a new show. I’ve actually always loved maebe
 
Sorry, arguments and tobgue lashings happen in the workplace. some people really need grow up, get thiker skin and learn the world isnt all roses and rainbows.

Bateman should never of apologized publicly.
 
I don't think other people should suffer just because some people were, evidently, raised in a barn.
 
Sorry, arguments and tobgue lashings happen in the workplace. some people really need grow up, get thiker skin and learn the world isnt all roses and rainbows.

Bateman should never of apologized publicly.

Bateman should have kept his mouth shut in the interview. He completely embarrassed himself.

Of course tempers flare, but this sounded like a particuarly vicious and prolonged outburst if it still played on Jessica's mind all these years later.
 
Downplaying abusing and attacking someone as an "argument" is always great.
 
I feel so bad for Jessica, and this whole situation is awful. She's such a strong person.

They should just get rid of George's character and move on with the rest of the cast.
 
I don’t know what Bateman thinks is the point of apologizing now.

Everyone knows what he said first is what he meant.
 
Couple of nights ago Bateman was in an interesting situation. He was on one of the late night talk shows (Colbert)....it was the same day as the interview that has him in hot water was released....but he was telling a story about him and Will Arnett being in a fender bender in New York. It was being told as humorous....and he kept referencing DAME Arnett screaming like a girl, LADY Arnett having to redo his makeup, and such stuff in his reactions to the accident. I couldn't help thinking at the time....you are getting heat for the way you acted with Jessica in that interview, and here you are now using references to Arnett "acting like a woman" as a comical insult.

Here it is, it's in the first 5 minutes -

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Hearing some of the audio from that interview was tough.
 
Couple of nights ago Bateman was in an interesting situation. He was on one of the late night talk shows (honestly don't remember if Colbert or Fallon)....it was the same day as the interview that has him in hot water was released....but he was telling a story about him and Will Arnett being in a fender bender in New York. It was being told as humorous....and he kept referencing MISS Arnett screaming like a girl, MISS Arnett having to reo his makeup, and such stuff in his reactions to the accident. I couldn't help thinking at the time....you are getting heat for the way you acted with Jessica in that interview, and here you are now using references to Arnett "acting like a woman" as a comical insult.
It was Colbert. I record him every night, but did not watch the interview that night because, well yeah. Hearing this, that interview just somehow makes his initial words stick harder.
 
They should just get rid of George's character and move on with the rest of the cast.

Totally agreed, get rid of George.

They could focus on his brother Oscar.
 

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