Assassin's Creed - Part 1

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I never understood the hate for the name either

Beside Edge of Tomorrow sounding like a day time soap opera? Or the name of the original novel which is based on being "All you need is kill".
 
The name was terrible because it didn't describe the movie at all. They gave the name of a drama to a sci fi action movie. I still think the tagline was the perfect name for the film, Live. Die. Repeat. All You Need is Kill sounds too silly and not like a movie title of a respectable film. It's like naming Blade Runner Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. That just doesn't work as the title of a film.
 
Live. Die. Repeat is good too. Although I think that wouldve been maligned too if that was they name they settled on because that sounds like a video game documentary/parody
But Edge of Tomorrow makes sense. He's always on the edge of tomorrow because he always resets before he reaches the next day (tomorrow).
 
Also Edge of Tomorrow just sounds much more generic. It's like taking a book titled One Shot and changing the title to Jack Reacher for the movie. Or taking John Carter of Mars and cutting the "of Mars" part out for some dumb reason.
 
Yeah "Edge of Tomorrow" perfectly described the film. Never got the problem with it because of that.
 
Also Edge of Tomorrow just sounds much more generic. It's like taking a book titled One Shot and changing the title to Jack Reacher for the movie. Or taking John Carter of Mars and cutting the "of Mars" part out for some dumb reason.


Nah Edge of Tomorrow maybe a generic title but it's nowhere near as bad as Disney changing "John Carter and the Princess of Mars" to "John Carter of Mars" to "John Carter"
 
It's a boring title. "All You Need Is Kill" at least has some personality to it.
 
All You Need is Kill sounds like a cool movie about an assassin/hitman character. I loved that title but I get why they changed it
 
First clip

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That was not a very good clip -- a bit too corny. I'm still optimistic with this though, such a great team behind it.
 
OK, it's the animus. Why are you giving him actual live Hidden Blades?
 
I didn't like the clip either but to be fair it's just a cut up clip. In the film the entire scene could be fine.
 
OK, it's the animus. Why are you giving him actual live Hidden Blades?

For the same reason why they built a gigantic needlessly complicated animus instead of just putting him in the couch animus that does exactly the same thing, it's like they're afraid moviegoers won't make the connection that the animus can give the user their ancestors skills in addition to their memories if they don't make it super obvious.
 
For the same reason why they built a gigantic needlessly complicated animus instead of just putting him in the couch animus that does exactly the same thing, it's like they're afraid moviegoers won't make the connection that the animus can give the user their ancestors skills in addition to their memories if they don't make it super obvious.

It is more realistic though, reading how to shoot like Steph Curry will not make you a better shooter. Actual repetition is the only way to develop the needed muscles memory to learn any new task.
 
It is more realistic though, reading how to shoot like Steph Curry will not make you a better shooter. Actual repetition is the only way to develop the needed muscles memory to learn any new task.

There is no need for the animus user to act out the motions. The person in the animus isnt reading. They are experiencing memories. Those experiences and knowledge and what their ancestor knew and could do sticks with the person in their brain even when they arent in the animus. It creates muscle memory, because to the animus user's brain those experience and memories are as real as the user's own memories and experiences. Its like they themselves actually lived and did that stuff. Muscle memory is nothing more than the brain putting well known repetitive tasks on a sort of subconscious auto pilot so that less brain power and focus is wasted on it. Its not your muscles literally remembering physical actions. If the ancestor knew how to sword fight when the animus user experiences those memories they know how to sword fight.

If we could upload experience and knowledge and other's memories directly into the brain of a person there would be no need to actually do the stuff to gain the muscle memory.

The matrix used the same concept but with artificial program uploads. Its not impossible. Its just way beyond our current scientific capabilities.
 
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It is more realistic though, reading how to shoot like Steph Curry will not make you a better shooter. Actual repetition is the only way to develop the needed muscles memory to learn any new task.

We are talking about a series featuring literal gods, all-powerful ancient relics, all of history being reduced to a millennia long war between two opposing secret orders, and people being plugged into a machine to relive the memories of their centuries old ancestors right?

Realism doesn't even enter the equation.
 
There is no need for the animus user to act out the motions. The person in the animus isnt reading. They are experiencing memories. Those experiences and knowledge and what their ancestor knew and could do sticks with the person in their brain even when they arent in the animus. It creates muscle memory, because to the animus user's brain those experience and memories are as real as the user's own memories and experiences. Its like they themselves actually lived and did that stuff. Muscle memory is nothing more than the brain putting well known repetitive tasks on a sort of subconscious auto pilot so that less brain power and focus is wasted on it. Its not your muscles literally remembering physical actions. If the ancestor knew how to sword fight when the animus user experiences those memories they know how to sword fight.

If we could upload experience and knowledge and other's memories directly into the brain of a person there would be no need to actually do the stuff to gain the muscle memory.

The matrix used the same concept but with artificial program uploads. Its not impossible. Its just way beyond our current scientific capabilities.

Muscle memory works on a completely different level of consciousness that I am not qualified to explain. If it were possible to relive a memory of our ancestor. From what we know about the human brain it's impossible to be in a VR experience laying down and learn to knit.

We are talking about a series featuring literal gods, all-powerful ancient relics, all of history being reduced to a millennia long war between two opposing secret orders, and people being plugged into a machine to relive the memories of their centuries old ancestors right?

Realism doesn't even enter the equation.

I said more realistic,and as fantastical as the AC universe can be. The technology they touch on is based on science we understand. Such as the animus being a VR experience.
 
Yeah, the Animus does look silly.

As another poster mentioned, they may have made the Animus a more complex device so that in the third act, Callum Lynch can credibly fend off his present day enemies. With Callum going through his ancestor's motions, his memory/body is retaining this information. However, I would argue that it would be an even greater surprise for the audience to recognize that his ancestor's combat skills have been retained if the Animus were a chair.

The "historical" scenes still seem much more interesting than the futuristic stuff.
 
OK, but Callum is Abstergo's prisoner. Why do they want him to learn Assassin skills? I can understand wanting to use his memories to get information, but his captors aren't the Brotherhood...
 
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