At the Mountains of Madness - Guillermo Del Toro's Next Project!

[Rowsdower!]

How much do you want to bet that the title of the movie will ultimately be deemed too obscure and they'll change it to something like "Ice Terrors."

 

[Hunter Rider]

Atmosphere and tone have nothing to do with the rating. This movie has zero need for a bunch of f-bombs or ****, and gore and gruesomeness was barely present in the story anyway. PG13 affords more than enough room to do this story, and do it well.

I'm glad they're talking about this again.

Fully agreed Tangy!

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Even then, Lovecraft's story was not that gory; the horror was in the understanding of the cosmos the narrator had at the end...and seeing creatures whose mere existence shattered their empiricism and illusion of a sane, ordered world.

trying to think of what scenes might qualify... the autopsy that GdT mentioned, there was the scene with the dogs... I'd have to reread it but yeah there was not a lot of gross out horror to be found.

Thank goodness the MPAA doesn't really base their ratings that much on atmosphere and tone then.

Lots of good horror flicks out there that manage this despite being PG13. Insidious & The Ring, for example.

 

[chamber-music]

Christopher Nolan managed to sneak in people being hanged, stabbed, blown up, set on fire, attacked by dogs, disfigurement, crippling, ect in his Batman films.

You can get away with violence in a PG-13 film if you are smart about it. Clever directors find ways to film violent scenes without gaining the wrath of the MPAA.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

I listened to the audiobook after, but the script, if I remember correctly, does a few things differently. It does have some graphic scenes in it for sure.

 

[dark_b]

Nolan sneaked in? MPAA is huge in the US. nothing gets sneaked in.

expensive blockbuster always get away with more scenes because hollywood studios pay extra money on the side.

 

[dark_b]

]Atmosphere and tone have nothing to do with the rating.[/B] This movie has zero need for a bunch of f-bombs or ****, and gore and gruesomeness was barely present in the story anyway. PG13 affords more than enough room to do this story, and do it well.

I'm glad they're talking about this again.

of course MPAA a lot of times gave movies an R rating because they said that the movie feels to intense for the PG13 crowd.

 

[KevanG]

How much do you want to bet that the title of the movie will ultimately be deemed too obscure and they'll change it to something like "Ice Terrors."

That would make me cry a bit. I doubt they'd do it because anyone who wants to see the movie would be seeing it on the name alone for the most part and the rest would be seeing it for the director.

 

[chamber-music]

I remember some parents complaining about the rating for The Woman In Black.

I can't believe parents took little kids to see a Hammer ghost story and then complained that it was too scary for their kids

 

[KevanG]

But it had Harry Potter in it, of course it's kid friendly! Never mind the last two books in that series or the actual rating of the movie or anything.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Guillermo's version of a pg-13 will be borderline R anyway.

Sign me up!

 

[dark_b]

i hope he will not change the monster design because of the pg13 rating.

Dennis Muren (Industrial Light and Magic)
"Do you realize nobody has ever seen monsters like this, ever?

3 years later and i am still shocked that this movie couldnt be made with Cameron producing.

 

[chamber-music]

3 years later and i am still shocked that this movie couldnt be made with Cameron producing.

Me too.

No studio in Hollywood will finance a James Cameron produced, Del Toro directed movie starring Tom Cruise which would of cost less than $150 million but they will finance all these other terrible $200 million dollar films that don't have half the amount of talented people behind it.

This film sounds like it has far more chance of being profitable than a great many other films that are getting made.

 

[Figs]

Guillermo's version of a pg-13 will be borderline R anyway.

Sign me up!

Exactly.

I just want him to make the damn thing. If making it PG13 is what it takes, then get a move on it Del Toro.

 

[MadVillainy]

Me too.

No studio in Hollywood will finance a James Cameron produced, Del Toro directed movie starring Tom Cruise which would of cost less than $150 million but they will finance all these other terrible $200 million dollar films that don't have half the amount of talented people behind it.

This film sounds like it has far more chance of being profitable than a great many other films that are getting made.

Really?

An R rated, $100 million, period piece, horror film, from a director who doesnt really have that much draw in the US, and a fading box office star whose movies of the last couple years havent made that much money (other than Ghost Protocol).

Sure Cameron was involved and Im sure that wouldve helped but the movie still had a lot going against it

Seems 100% reasonable and understandable that they balked at making the previous incarnation of the movie. Glad Del Toro might be able to make his passion project though. I dont even like horror movies that mich but Ill be checking it out

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Oh this would make money, no doubt, Tom Cruise still managed to sell movies like Oblivion or Edge Of Tomorrow that would have, I believe, totally bombed without him. They weren't slamdunks, but they sure did okay.

ATMOM with a great, spectacular trailer could definitely sell it, the script has a lot going for it, and if Prometheus was that successful, no reason ATMOM couldn't be because there are quite a few similarities between the two (remember Del Toro saying he freaked out when he saw Prometheus because of how close it is on certain aspects).

 

[MadVillainy]

Oh this would make money, no doubt, Tom Cruise still managed to sell movies like Oblivion or Edge Of Tomorrow that would have, I believe, totally bombed without him. They weren't slamdunks, but they sure did okay.

ATMOM with a great, spectacular trailer could definitely sell it, the script has a lot going for it, and if Prometheus was that successful, no reason ATMOM couldn't be because there are quite a few similarities between the two (remember Del Toro saying he freaked out when he saw Prometheus because of how close it is on certain aspects).

How would this have made money "no doubt?" You said yourself that Oblivion and Edge of Tomorrow werent slam dunks. Neither of them made even close to their budget's domestically. And Oblivion barely made double its budget world wide. So he didnt really sell those movies well, at least Box office wise. I really liked Edge of Tomorrow
Prometheus also had a lot more star power than ATMoM had (mostly because it didnt have its full cast announced)


I wouldve been surprised if it was a bad movie but I wouldnt have expected it to make much money

 

[Boom]

Most of the horror in Lovecraft's works come from the buildup of tension and the overbearing sense of dread. Really, save for a couple of moments in the novella, Mountains is easily doable in a PG-13 film. And those couple of moments can be filmed in such a way that the gore isn't so explicit or graphic.

We've got horror movies out nowadays sneaking away with a PG-13 rating. Can't see why this one couldn't as well.

At this point, I just want this movie made damnit. Anything to wash the taste of Pacific Rim out of my mouth.

 

[MadVillainy]

Crimson Peak seems really cool

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The only thing that bothers me is it is clearly not GDT's original vision. But whatever gets it done at this point I guess.

 

[dark_b]

CGI is gettings cheaper every year.Guardians of galaxy some years ago would cost over 350 millions. and now look at it.

del Toro when he is old will regret making it pg13. we are all sad but a compromise with ATMoM should not be an option.

 

[The Endless]

I think a film like this should not be put on a creative leash. And that is what it is, really. It's putting a leash on it.

Sure it could be done as a PG-13 with some compromises. But do i want that? Not so sure.

It's not to do with gore and blood. It's to do with the subject matter and the tone. A story about cosmic gods that defy mankind's perceptions and understandings with their mere existence shouldn't be put on a leash. There shouldn't be compromises.

IIRC Carpenter's Into the Mouth of Madness wasn't that gory. But it was just so bizarre and unsettling. Or think of a David Lynch film. They are not gory or too explicit. But the tone and atmosphere of some of his films is terrifying. They could never be done as PG-13 even if you took out the swearing and nudity.

 

[terry78]

Disturbing imagery is the kicker. Hollywood could give two ****s about kids seeing that stuff, but a tit....that won't fly.

 

[Gort Baringa]

Let him make the movie he wants ... then ... have him edit it to PG13 and include the director's cut as an option on the DVD.

 

[terry78]

That would be even worse, like a blindside. If they want it pg13 just sack up and say so from jump.