Age of Ultron Avengers: Orchestra Assemble! Composer Thread

[hafizbat]

Jackman will most likely get the gig due to him being the Russo bros composer for The Winter Soldier and next year’s Civil War.

That's good news I really liked the score in TWS. It'll be great to have something in the same vein for Civil War. I still would rather have Elfman for Infinity War though. His scores are just legendary. I want him to do for The Avengers what he did for Batman and Spider-Man.

 

[AgentGojiraRgr]

I hope Henry Jackman moves away from the CA:TWS style and more towards the X-Men First Class style or something for Civil War and if he gets Infinity War Part I and II.

Collaborations between multiple composers would be nice too.

 

[flickchick85]

Jackman will most likely get the gig due to him being the Russo bros composer for The Winter Soldier and next year’s Civil War.

I'd be cool with this. I didn't love Jackman's TWS score as much as some here, but I still preferred it to this and also preferred his work on First Class and Kingsman over anything I've heard from Tyler. I just feel like his orchestrations have more...oomph than Tylers, lol. Even when Tyler writes a catchy theme as in IM3, his orchestrations of them just always sound so weak and hollow to me.

 

[Sharkboy]

Don't like how TWS score wasn't incorporated into the AoU score, if it was i didn't hear it.

 

[Klidokrator]

Inevitability - One good eye is such a different feel. I have not heard Elfman like this. I love it

 

[Johnny-Oh]

That’s only the amount presented on the album. Elfman wrote about 60 min of additional music and I’m assuming Tyler wrote about two hours of music (before Elfman was hired) b/c those who’ve seen the movie mentioned the score being wall to wall. But I agree why hire Elfman in the 11th hour only to butcher his music along with Tyler’s, then poorly mix it under loud sound f/x, and tracking in some of Silvestri’s music from the previous installment. This is Spider-Man 2 and 3 all over again at least in regards to the butchering of the score.

What? SM2 had a great score and even SM3 had great music as well despite not being done by Danny Elfman

 

[Vartha]

It was odd listening to the score. I loved it but you can TELL which is Tyler and which is Elfman.

 

[Elevator Man]

What? SM2 had a great score and even SM3 had great music as well despite not being done by Danny Elfman

I'm talking about how the music is heard in the film not outside of it. Elfman's original S-M2 score suffered from temp track love. When Raimi and co. tracked in Elfman's music from the first film, then had Christopher Young rewrite two cues (one of which sounded like it was taken from "Hellraiser 2") and John Debney also rewrote two cues. The S-M3 score was an even bigger train wreck in the movie with Elfman's music from both movies (even an unused cue from S-M2) being tracked in and over Young's original material, and then hiring John Debney and Deborah Lurie to adapt/re-record Elfman cues/themes from the previous two movies to replace some of Young's material also. That's why I made the same comparison with the A:AOU score in the film b/c it seems like it went through a similar problem.

 

[ddddeeee]

It's far from evenly divided but Elfman scores the emotional Hawkeye stuff, most of the Twins and their big moments and then the vast majority of the Avengers working together stuff.

 

[drod1985]

It was odd listening to the score. I loved it but you can TELL which is Tyler and which is Elfman.

Absolutely. It's blatantly obvious. The only thing really meshing them together are the references to Silvestri's original score.

 

[Herolee10]

Marvel really needs to hire some competent composers for there films.

And I wish these films would retain some musical continuity between each other, rather than always changing the hero's theme and score with the next sequel.

None of the Phase 1 films feel in sync with their phase 2 sequels when it comes to music alone.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

I think phase 2 films had good music, its this soundtrack that I find very disappointing.

 

[flickchick85]

Marvel really needs to hire some competent composers for there films.

And I wish these films would retain some musical continuity between each other, rather than always changing the hero's theme and score with the next sequel.

None of the Phase 1 films feel in sync with their phase 2 sequels when it comes to music alone.

Agreed. This is one area where I feel Marvel repeatedly drops the ball.

 

[Deserana]

I liked most phase 2 scores especially TWS but this one was a huge let down. It was just so generic other than the very rare beat here and there. I also just wanted to hear the avengers theme in its glory at the right moment and there definitely a few times it could have happened. They kept building up to it though.

 

[ddddeeee]

Opinions and all that, but the idea that people love TWS score and criticize the others others for being generic is more than a little laughable to me. I mean that's comfortably the most generic one, all the 'chugga chugga' strings with the Inception foghorn, it's thematically inferior and sounds like a terrible cross between Bourne ostintati leftovers and the Joker material from TDK. More than ever I'm convinced people today project their love of a movie onto it's score.

Thankfully Silvestri's Cap theme makes a welcome return in this one.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

TWS' score was still memorable despite its generic-ness. This.....this is just some random noises other than a few, fleeting moments.

 

[eddy]

This is such a weird score. Putting Elfman's work right next to Tyler's only highlights how weak a composer Tyler is in comparison to both him AND Silvestri. "Ultron-Twins" is a nice bit of Elfman-y goodness, but other than that, the only parts I enjoy are the moments where Silvestri's theme comes back. I REALLY wish Marvel would ditch Tyler already. Outside of the Marvel logo music, his IM3 score is the only decent work he's done for them, imo...and that was just decent.

I liked the theme he did for Frigga's funeral.

 

[DyeLorean]

Yeah, the score sounds heroic but generic. It's average, there are a few moments were it's good though. But I agree overall that the lack of distinctive music is something they need to work on. The Avengers Theme from Silvestri is actually the only true recognizable piece of music that actually has a personality. At least they kept some of that signature.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

Opinions and all that, but the idea that people love TWS score and criticize the others others for being generic is more than a little laughable to me. I mean that's comfortably the most generic one, all the 'chugga chugga' strings with the Inception foghorn, it's thematically inferior and sounds like a terrible cross between Bourne ostintati leftovers and the Joker material from TDK. More than ever I'm convinced people today project their love of a movie onto it's score.

Thankfully Silvestri's Cap theme makes a welcome return in this one.

Completely disagree, in fact its the opposite because I enjoy the movie a lot more because the music was so good. Nothing in the score sounded like The Joker music from TDK.

 

[hafizbat]

I thought the TWS score was great. A nice blend of spy thriller and Captain America.

 

[TheVileOne]

Marvel really needs to hire some competent composers for there films.

And I wish these films would retain some musical continuity between each other, rather than always changing the hero's theme and score with the next sequel.

None of the Phase 1 films feel in sync with their phase 2 sequels when it comes to music alone.

Thank you! This is what I have been saying for years.

 

[CELTICPRED]

Nothing in the score sounded like The Joker music from TDK.

I enjoy TWS score more than most, but you can't deny there's that screeching they share in common. Either way it's still a cue.

 

[TheVileOne]

Two factors:

1) The studios are in love with the Hans Zimmer/Remote Control sound, ever since the first Pirates of the Caribbean film (Silvestri was booted from it after Bruckheimer heard the demos).
2) Deaths of several iconic composers: Jerry Goldsmith, Basil Pouledoris, and Shirley Walker. Those composers had a distinct but wonderful writing styles.

I wish Marvel Studios would focus on the quality of their film scores. It wasn't like Silvestri was booked solid through 2014 (he only scored the third Night at the Museum film) or 2015 -- and he likes recording in London.

Yeah it's really too bad. The classic iconic composers who are still around are much older too and their input is going down.

Elfman is an all-time great composer, but I would argue he is past his peak prime in terms of quality film scores.

I am happy Williams is doing Force Awakens, but I imagine he won't be turning out too many more epic film scores before he puts his baton for good.

Hans Zimmer can turn out decent work now and again, but just for example, there was nothing memorable or iconic from his work on Spider-Man. At least Elfman gave Spider-Man some memorable music the first go around.

 

[Elevator Man]

Elfman is an all-time great composer, but I would argue he is past his peak prime in terms of quality film scores.

Elfman still is putting out quality scores e.g The Wolfman, Alice In Wonderland, Real Steel, Frankenweenie, Silver Linings Playbook, Oz The Great and Powerful, and The Unknown Known.

Hans Zimmer can turn out decent work now and again, but just for example, there was nothing memorable or iconic from his work on Spider-Man. At least Elfman gave Spider-Man some memorable music the first go around.

TAS-M2 score > TDKT and MOS scores, imho.

Also prefer it over most of the MCU scores.

 

[hafizbat]

Where would you guys rank the AoU score among MCU scores?

I think IM1 has the best score, followed by TFA, TA, TWS, IM3, and Thor in any order.