Sequels Avengers Sequel ideas?

BigThor said:
^ Three things wrong with that

First off Odin is alot more powerful than Thanos and he was spanking him fairly easily when they fought in the comics.

Second, Thanos doesn't ever utterly stomp Thor for the most part Thor always puts up a fight.

Third, if Thanos is able to defeat Odin I'm pretty sure Hulk couldn't engage him a brawl besides Thor always faired the best against Thanos anyway.

Didn't Thanos take on Odin and Thor at the same time and just stand there and take it? Can't name the specific comic right now, but besides, even if Odin were more powerful, Thanos has defeated beings of greater might than himself.
 
Didn't Thanos take on Odin and Thor at the same time and just stand there and take it? Can't name the specific comic right now, but besides, even if Odin were more powerful, Thanos has defeated beings of greater might than himself.

....no, Odin was casually smacking Thanos around by himself and all Thanos managed to do was survive.

Odin vs Thanos
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BigThor said:
....no, Odin was casually smacking Thanos around by himself and all Thanos managed to do was survive.

Odin vs Thanos
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Well the fight, Thanos just got tired of it, but there was nowhere in the fight where it seemed like he'd lose, and for Thanos to take all of that and get up as if it were nothing shows that his durability is a lot. Odin himself marveled at how powerful Thanos was, and while he might not have used every ounce of his power, Odin tried (and failed) mightily to put Thanos down.

One thing I do hope to see in Avengers 2 is Steve being shown as worthy to weild Mjolnir. There are only a handful of those who are worthy, but is there anyone on Earth more worthy than Steve Rogers? Not likely. Hulk and Loki couldn't lift it... a pinnacle moment would be Steve picking up the hammer to defend his allies if Thor got knocked out.
 
Well the fight, Thanos just got tired of it, but there was nowhere in the fight where it seemed like he'd lose, and for Thanos to take all of that and get up as if it were nothing shows that his durability is a lot. Odin himself marveled at how powerful Thanos was, and while he might not have used every ounce of his power, Odin tried (and failed) mightily to put Thanos down.

Everyone always Marvel's at how tough Thanos is in that fight, but clearly Odin wasn't even PHASED by any of Thanos's attacks.

I don't know why comic fans seem to think getting KO'd is the only way to lose, I'm pretty sure Odin caused the most damage, took the least damage, and landed the most attacks.

Odin was clearly shown to be more powerful and is the winner by a landlslide in my opinion. *shrugs*
 
BigThor said:
Everyone always Marvel's at how tough Thanos is in that fight, but clearly Odin wasn't even PHASED by any of Thanos's attacks.

I don't know why comic fans seem to think getting KO'd is the only way to lose, I'm pretty sure Odin caused the most damage, took the least damage, and landed the most attacks.

Odin was clearly shown to be more powerful and is the winner by a landlslide in my opinion. *shrugs*

At the end, Thanos got up and was ready for more. Wasn't a loss, just that Odin had control over the fight.
 
At the end, Thanos got up and was ready for more. Wasn't a loss, just that Odin had control over the fight.

In UFC and boxing both opponents are still standing at the end, so the one who had the upperhand for most of the fight is declared the winner.

He can keep getting up as much as he wants, doesn't change the fight that he got his ass kicked and never put down Odin even once.
 
BigThor said:
In UFC and boxing both opponents are still standing at the end, so the one who had the upperhand for most of the fight is declared the winner.

He can keep getting up as much as he wants, doesn't change the fight that he got his ass kicked and never put down Odin even once.

It ended in a standoff. If you consider a standoff a victory, I don’t know what else to say. Marvel stated in a bio it ended in a standoff, which we literally see at the end of the fight.
 
I think a pretty logical progression of the movies would be something like


Cap and Iron Man are pretty grounded movies, no cosmic influence but maybe some subtleties like AIM in Cap who it turns out is a sleeper cell organization who is given tech from another dimension, or something involving the Universal Church of Truth

Thor 2 is kinda the IM2 of "Phase 2" which has a big hand in setting up the events of Avengers 2

Thor 2:
Enchantress and Executioner stage a coup on Asgard to capture Loki and take him across the galaxy cause Thanos has put a huge bounty on his head. Thor begs her if there is any other way and she says if they go and get the Infinity Gem that controlls the dead. The gem is hidden deep inside the Nine Realms and they are going to have to use SWORD to help them find the location of it.
They go on the quest and find the stone, Enchantress uses the stone to raise an army of undead to take over the throne of Asgard, but Thor, Loki and co save the day etc.

Avengers 2:
Star-Lord or Adam Warlock come to Earth and their presence alerts SHIELD, they tell them that because of the events of Thor 2 the once thought of mythic Infinty Gems are now known to be a science instead of just a fable. The Mad-Titan Thanos is storming the galaxy, killing anything in his way to assemble the Gauntlet. The Avengers must go and find the rest of the infinity gems and guard them in Asgard, the best equipped place in the universe to battle a cosmic threat like Thanos, so the Avengers travel the galaxy and find the gems and guard them in Asgard to prepare for a huge war.

However Adam Warlock reveals himself to be a servant of the Lord Titan Thanos (clearly under mind control) and battles the avengers with sleeper cell members of the Universal church of truth. A lone spaceship lands in Asgard and Thanos walks out, revealed in full for the first time--Warlock hands him the Gauntlet, Thanos grins and blasts Warlock with a load of energy saying your services will no longer be needed.

The Avengers are noticabley terrified and they actually flee as Asgard crumbles around them with the flick of Thanos wrist. Odin tells them that he is going to use all the power he can summon and get the Avengers back to Earth....they are the universes last hope, he tells them with the Bifrost still broken it will keep Thanos in Asgard for the time being. He sends Adam Warlock too, then Odin implodes with a white light and all the Avengers appear on Earth, Odin is presumed dead so Thor is broken up. Loki says something like "The All-Father could have sent Thanos and Asgard into the Abyss...it could be years before he comes out." Fury "we'll have to be ready when he does."

there is some brief closer and then credits.

post-credits teaser: Thor goes to kill Warlock when Star-Lord appears and says Warlock is the only chance we have at stopping Thanos

Gaurdians of the Galaxy: kind of a prequel to the events that lead up to Avengers 2, shows the relationship between Thanos and Warlock a little bit....Thanos isn't overtly a bad guy in this, more like Loki in Thor 1

A3: Opening scene is Thanos meeting death as a woman. and then it's basically about the infinity gauntlet and avengers being the only ones who can stop them. Maybe some self sacrficie by Loki who knows

Love Love LOVE this Sam.

Its probably not going to happen like this. But damn this would be great.
 
Wouldn't GotG be before The Avengers 2 at least that what LR says.

Why would Thanos be trapped in Asgard? Thanos came in a spaceship why can't he leave in it?

I really like the stories for the movies.
 
It ended in a standoff. If you consider a standoff a victory, I don’t know what else to say. Marvel stated in a bio it ended in a standoff, which we literally see at the end of the fight.

But during the actual fight Odin wasn't hurt by ANY of Thanos' attacks and although Thanos kept getting up Odin's attacks clearly affected him.

Boxing and UFC fights end in stand offs as well, that's when they use the amount of blows landed and fight control to determine the winner.
 
Wouldn't GotG be before The Avengers 2 at least that what LR says.

Why would Thanos be trapped in Asgard? Thanos came in a spaceship why can't he leave in it?

I really like the stories for the movies.

I think GOTG will be released before then, but i'm not sure how the time frame will work. I hoep they don't through too much 'time travel' into the cinematic verse, but that's seeming more and more likely
 
BigThor said:
But during the actual fight Odin wasn't hurt by ANY of Thanos' attacks and although Thanos kept getting up Odin's attacks clearly affected him.

Boxing and UFC fights end in stand offs as well, that's when they use the amount of blows landed and fight control to determine the winner.

Why was Odin saying he hadn't had a fight like this in ages? Thanos looks completely fresh when he says, "NO!"

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The fight wasn't over, Thanos didn't give up when Odin asked. Show me Thanos begging for Odin to stop. Heck, show me Thanos fearing Odin's power, even though we both know that Thanos showed no pain at all during the fight. All I see is him saying "NO" when asked to surrender, and you call this a win for Odin? To say Thanos lost ignores the scans which show otherwise.

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A fight that got interrupted...that's all it was. Thanos didn't lose.
 
Things I’d like to see...

- Thanos go after Loki in Asgard. Loki was warned not to fail as it would mean his head, and Thanos means to collect. Loki is a prisoner on Asgard, under the watch of not only Thor, but Odin as well. Thanos and his army attacking Asgard would look epic on screen. Seeing a battle between alien soldiers and the sorcery and swords of Asgard would be something not seen on screen before, and if Thanos' forces can defeat Asgard, what hope is there for Earth?

I’d also like to see Thanos kill Odin and utterly stomp Thor and send him crashing to Earth as a warning to The Avengers. Thanos, of course, would obtain the Teseract and start his preparations for the invasion of Earth.

- Hulk vs Thanos. This has to happen. Of course, Hulk will lose, but I want to see an effort here. Thanos wrecking The Avengers in battle, seemingly unstoppable, on the verge of killing one or all of the team, the deathblow imminent, then BOOM! Thanos turns to see Hulk landing like a meteor, coming in for the save and taking on Thanos in a brawl that would make any fight in the first movie look tame in comparison. As I said, Hulk would go down, but he could last long enough to hold Thanos back for the plot-device that ends his threat.

- Captain America picks up Thor’s hammer and strikes Thanos, buying time for the others. I’d want more leadup to show how special it is that he can pick it up, as shown by Hulk not being able to lift it. People need to see how worthy Steve Rogers is.

As to your and BigThor's debate, I will get onto that.

But first answer me this.

Why, did I see this EXACT post, on another forum on another website? You on a different forum? I mean this word for word what I saw on another forum haha.

Though I would like to see Thanos fight Hulk.

But in all honesty, I don't think Hulk can go toe to toe in a brawl against Thanos

^ Three things wrong with that

First off Odin is alot more powerful than Thanos and he was spanking him fairly easily when they fought in the comics.

Second, Thanos doesn't ever utterly stomp Thor for the most part Thor always puts up a fight.

Third, if Thanos is able to defeat Odin I'm pretty sure Hulk couldn't engage him a brawl besides Thor always faired the best against Thanos anyway.

1. Still wouldn't consider it spanking, my standards for a spanking are that the loser is clearly in pain, and not JUST getting smacked around. and to me it wouldn't necessarily be a spanking since Thanos kept throwing taunts, and didn't seem to be getting hurt too bad considering his mannerisms.

To be the best way to put it, is that he, literally TOOK a beating.

2. Thor has beaten Thanos before. Though generally I'd say Thanos > Thor.

Thanos taking hits from WM Thor, with the power gem, and smiling, and also getting in some good shots himself, and then leaving cause he was "bored" was big.

3. I'm with you, if anyone in reason should go 1v1 with Thanos, it should be Thor.

Odin>>>>Thanos>>Thor>>>Hulk

Didn't Thanos take on Odin and Thor at the same time and just stand there and take it? Can't name the specific comic right now, but besides, even if Odin were more powerful, Thanos has defeated beings of greater might than himself.

Never Happened. and not if, Odin IS far more powerful

....no, Odin was casually smacking Thanos around by himself and all Thanos managed to do was survive.

Odin vs Thanos
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Don't know why I quoted this, don't feel like delete in the right spots haha

Everyone always Marvel's at how tough Thanos is in that fight, but clearly Odin wasn't even PHASED by any of Thanos's attacks.

I don't know why comic fans seem to think getting KO'd is the only way to lose, I'm pretty sure Odin caused the most damage, took the least damage, and landed the most attacks.

Odin was clearly shown to be more powerful and is the winner by a landlslide in my opinion. *shrugs*

He is more powerful. It was a fight he was winning, and sure he won. Odin has a lot more to give to Thanos, a LOT more. Thanos did not. But in that fight, given the circumstance, and Thanos saying that he's not impressed, and how he kept getting up and throwing taunts, I think is a great durability feat on his part.



Why was Odin saying he hadn't had a fight like this in ages? Thanos looks completely fresh when he says, "NO!"

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The fight wasn't over, Thanos didn't give up when Odin asked. Show me Thanos begging for Odin to stop. Heck, show me Thanos fearing Odin's power, even though we both know that Thanos showed no pain at all during the fight. All I see is him saying "NO" when asked to surrender, and you call this a win for Odin? To say Thanos lost ignores the scans which show otherwise.

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A fight that got interrupted...that's all it was. Thanos didn't lose.

Thanos didn't win either. He was losing the fight clearly, definitively, but he was not really phased either, not to the point where it seemed he was going down soon. Like I said, the only thing this fight shows to me, is Thanos durability, and how he can take shots, even if weak, from Odin
 
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jaqua99 said:
As to your and BigThor's debate, I will get onto that.

But first answer me this.

Why, did I see this EXACT post, on another forum on another website? You on a different forum? I mean this word for word what I saw on another forum haha.

Yeah, I also post on CBM. Just thought if I posted my wishlist in enough forums it might come true. :awesome:

However, I just noticed that I accidentally didn't quote Donnie Darko's post about Cap picking up Thor's hammer. Although I want to see that happen on screen too, it was actually his post that I meant to quote.
 
Why was Odin saying he hadn't had a fight like this in ages? Thanos looks completely fresh when he says, "NO!"

The fight wasn't over, Thanos didn't give up when Odin asked. Show me Thanos begging for Odin to stop. Heck, show me Thanos fearing Odin's power, even though we both know that Thanos showed no pain at all during the fight. All I see is him saying "NO" when asked to surrender, and you call this a win for Odin? To say Thanos lost ignores the scans which show otherwise.

A fight that got interrupted...that's all it was. Thanos didn't lose.

Okay I see you're not going t be reasonable about this, I'm pretty sure Thanos was struggling to get up right before he said "no". You can see the "wobbly" lines around him as he's standing up, I don't care what he "said" it was clear that Odin's attacks hurt him.

Just because he didn't yield and was talking **** does't mean he didn't get outclassed, I see you keep ignoring my points about boxers not always having to KO someone to win.

1. Still wouldn't consider it spanking, my standards for a spanking are that the loser is clearly in pain, and not JUST getting smacked around. and to me it wouldn't necessarily be a spanking since Thanos kept throwing taunts, and didn't seem to be getting hurt too bad considering his mannerisms.

Thanos didn't win either. He was losing the fight clearly, definitively, but he was not really phased either, not to the point where it seemed he was going down soon. Like I said, the only thing this fight shows to me, is Thanos durability, and how he can take shots, even if weak, from Odin

Some people talking **** and taunt to cover up the fact that they are losing, talk is cheap especially when he was being outclassed and struggling to stand up at the end.

He was clearly phased, probably not to the point of being put down but he was definate hurt. Thanos' taunts are not a big deal, he's a villain that's what they do and not only that it's in his character not to show fear even if he's losing.
 
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Okay I see you're not going t be reasonable about this, I'm pretty sure Thanos was struggling to get up right before he said "no". You can see the "wobbly" lines around him as he's standing up, I don't care what he "said" it was clear that Odin's attacks hurt him.

Just because he didn't yield and was talking **** does't mean he didn't get outclassed, I see you keep ignoring my points about boxers not always having to KO someone to win.



Some people talking **** and taunt to cover up the fact that they are losing, talk is cheap especially when he was being outclassed and struggling to stand up at the end.

He was clearly phased, probably not to the point of being put down but he was definate hurt. Thanos' taunts are not a big deal, he's a villain that's what they do and not only that it's in his character not to show fear even if he's losing.

He was losing for sure. There is no doubt about it. He was out classed. Completely. He struggled to get up, but he was still in fighting shape the whole time. Walking through Odin's blast to grab the scepter (then to get blasted away again LOL). He was phased, but I wouldn't say enough to say that he was getting smacked around. From what I recall, I have the comic right here on my computer, I can look at it in a sec, the only time where he struggled to get up was at the end, Odin asked him if he yields, he struggles to get up, he says no. Odin looks surprised. Then the fight ends, and is proven pointless.

Odin is way above Thanos. There's no arguing that.

I personally think Odin was holding back, because he CAN lay the smack down on Thanos, and CAN knock him out in that many panels. But didn't.

It only makes sense. Just cause you may be a little hurt, doesn't mean you are not in fighting shape. Odin could have, and probably should have done more damage to Thanos. But the attacks he took from Odin, he was basically able to take. Enough to phase him, and hurt him, but not enough to really put him out of fighting shape.

Which is in my eyes, I'll describe it as this.

Odin was clearly the superior and Thanos didn't have anything that could hurt him.

Opposed to Odin smacked Thanos around.

You could say the same thing about the Ironman and Thor fight in the movie using that logic. Ironman, blasted Thor away, threw him, flew him in the air, and into a mountain (although, Thor did fight back, and was shown as a superior, so it might be different)/


BUT, in your response BigThor, don't even rebuttal what I have to say here.. haha because you are my favorite poster here I'd say, and to be flat out honest, it feels weird to be having a discussion of disagreement with you, we basically have agreed on everything when it comes to debates and discussions, but this is different, and I don't like it, and I don't want to disagree with you :( hahaha
 
Yeah, I also post on CBM. Just thought if I posted my wishlist in enough forums it might come true. :awesome:

However, I just noticed that I accidentally didn't quote Donnie Darko's post about Cap picking up Thor's hammer. Although I want to see that happen on screen too, it was actually his post that I meant to quote.

haha okay. I thought I saw that somewhere.

And I would LOVE to see cap pick up the hammer. It should happen
 
Well the fight, Thanos just got tired of it, but there was nowhere in the fight where it seemed like he'd lose, and for Thanos to take all of that and get up as if it were nothing shows that his durability is a lot. Odin himself marveled at how powerful Thanos was, and while he might not have used every ounce of his power, Odin tried (and failed) mightily to put Thanos down.

One thing I do hope to see in Avengers 2 is Steve being shown as worthy to weild Mjolnir. There are only a handful of those who are worthy, but is there anyone on Earth more worthy than Steve Rogers? Not likely. Hulk and Loki couldn't lift it... a pinnacle moment would be Steve picking up the hammer to defend his allies if Thor got knocked out.

I absolutely NEVER want to see that on screen. Keep the legendary weapons to the guys they belong to.
 
The Spidey-Man said:
Bring on Spider-Man! but not as an avengers member.

Isn’t it getting a bit fanwanky to think that they should stick Spider-Man in there too? What would it bring to the table that the Avengers is dependent on Spider-Man for? Adding Spider-Man is only going to make it more difficult to introduce anything new, and they aren’t going to be able to give Spider-Man the amount of attention he’d get in his own films. It can harm the film.

The sequel should consist of Thanos overcoming the Avengers, leaving the earth in a state of darkness, and maybe Avengers 3 could have Red Skull, The Leader, and The Mandarin team up.
 
Isn’t it getting a bit fanwanky to think that they should stick Spider-Man in there too? What would it bring to the table that the Avengers is dependent on Spider-Man for? Adding Spider-Man is only going to make it more difficult to introduce anything new, and they aren’t going to be able to give Spider-Man the amount of attention he’d get in his own films. It can harm the film.

The sequel should consist of Thanos overcoming the Avengers, leaving the earth in a state of darkness, and maybe Avengers 3 could have Red Skull, The Leader, and The Mandarin team up.

So you just want them forget about Thanos in the third film?
 
Should the Avengers face Thanos? Or should Thanos be used in the Guardians of the Galaxy and leave him out of the Avengers, leave them to other bad guys like Ultron and Kang?
So at the end of the Avengers we get a glimpse at Thanos, who as it turns out was behind the whole Loki invasion idea. So should the Avengers have to face him in a later film, or would you be OK with the Avengers never facing him, and in fact him not even in another Avengers film at all. Instead should he be used in the Guardians of the Galaxy films instead? Or would it be too jarring to have him not used in another Avengers, a follow up or conclusion?
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Bring on Thanos! It should take two movies to defeat a villain like him. Sounds plausible and fits with Joss' idea.
 
I hope they'll bring Thanos in the third film. Would be a shame if not.
 

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