Batman: Arkham Knight

[TheDarkKnight_NL]

Bummer. Shadow of War looks neat, but I wanted Batman. There's always SDCC...

Might still happen #FingersCrossed

 

[godisawesome]

AK should have been that game. I obviously love Joker, but he was a drag on AK for me. Totally unnecessary inclusion in that game. Monologue after monologue in nearly every scene, sometimes even yapping in the background when another character is trying to speak. The whole finale revolved around him more than Scarecrow or Jason.

The only Joker tie in the game should have been the sick Jokers in the movie studio, and Harley trying to get them for herself.

Hallucination Joker was a mixed bag; yeah, there were some parts that really worked with the character acting as an evil commentator, but as the sole Scarecrow hallucination for much of the game, and as the final boss...

Really, they should have constructed the story and storytelling with far more Scarecrow hallucination ideas: have Bruce periodically enter a Scarecrow dimension where his reality is a bit warped and he has to fight his way out, introduce Jason by having a team up with Tim turn into Dick turn into Jason turn into dead Jason, have hallucination arguments between a good Harvey Dent and a demonic Two Face, and just generally play with the sense of reality.

Imagine if the player knows that around 30% of the game is clearly and obviously hallucination, and then spring the Babs fake out and all that as a reveal that even some of those regualr parts you were playing were totally hallucinations as well. Heck, maybe have Bruce have a breakdown and get lost in a Scarecrow hallucination right after working out that Jason is the Knight during a fight, and have Nightwing have to beat him out of it. And drop that Joker blood in Batman idea; its nonsensical and kind of stupid for Batman to have to worry about something he was cured of in the last game.

This game's problem was that it was largely constructed like a WWE Raw show; big moments, but an unhealthy mix of predictability, confusing continuity decisions (Tim and Babs, for one), and anti-climax (the almost total lack of any good boss battles not involving the tank). Origins comes off looking like a far better experience in comparison just because it's story structure and new elements (Detecive Cases) really worked well together. Plus, it felt like Origins was going out of its way to make *all* Gotham characters look cool, while Knight seemed to insist on undercutting everyone not named Joker or Bruce Wayne.

 

[GamerSlyRatchet]

I think I could do with a Batman game where the Joker isn't the villain for once.

Yup. One of the reasons Batman: The Telltale Series felt so refreshing was because it focused on other villains for once (Catwoman, Penguin, Two-Face, Falcone, etc.).

 

[zenith16]

Got this from my face book it's link ed night wing feed





Nightwing - Dick John Grayson

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"Yes! Arkham Knight was so lame at times!"



How Batman: Arkham Insurgency Can Learn From Arkham Knight's Mistakes
The new rumored Arkham game 'Batman: Arkham Insurgency' will have to win over fans who were disappointed by 'Arkham Knight.' Here's what Rocksteady needs…Read more

Most fans assumed that Batman: Arkham Knight was going to be the last entry in the popular video game series. In fact, that was the original plan, as stated by game developers from Rocksteady. However, just recently the news of a fifth entry into the series was leaked onto the web, though take it all with a grain of salt since fake leaks happen all of the time.
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[Credit: Rocksteady Studios]According to the original poster of the leak on Reddit (whose account was deleted by a moderator), the game will be titled Batman: Arkham Insurgency and it will take place three years after Batman: Arkham Origins, thus showing this will focus on a younger Batman, whereas Knight focused on a veteran version of the character.
Arkham Knight was such a disappointment that not even a sequel where Tim Drake took over as Batman could get us excited, but then Rocksteady throws a curveball and decides to go back and make a game following Arkham Origins. This leads to more potential with stories with Ra's Al Ghul, Poison Ivy, Talia Al Ghul and the Joker.
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[Credit: Rocksteady Studios]Robin (more than likely Dick Grayson) apparently will be a part of the game as a playable character. This is great, since the extra characters in previous Arkham games have been incredibly fun to play as. According to the leak, the plot of the game will be:

"Terrorists attack Gotham at the same time there is a massive breakout at both Arkham Asylum and Blackgate Prison forcing the GCPD to section off a part of the city allowing Batman and Robin to enter and save the day."
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Now, all of this sounds great and all, but I do have concerns due to Rocksteady's last attempt at giving us a triple-A Batman video game, which had many issues that kept it from being the "ultimate Batman simulator," as the developers promised. Let's go over what needs to be fixed if Insurgency is really happening.
Will Robin ACTUALLY Be Playable?

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[Credit: Rocksteady Studios]If Robin is playable, give us the chance to free roam Gotham City. Arkham Knight lied to us and built up the fact that you could play as Batman, Nightwing and Robin, which got us hyped — but instead we could only play as Robin or Nightwing in very few select sequences of the story and challenge maps, which was just a horrible choice. Hopefully the developers give us the ability to switch between characters on the spot, à la Grand Theft Auto V.
Less Superhero, More Vigilante

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[Credit: Rocksteady Studios]Go more grounded with the tone and story. Arkham Knight tried too hard to be this bombastic superhero blockbuster, but that's not what made us love the Arkham games. We loved the gritty crime-filled world of the Arkhamverse, all of the mysteries and cases we could solve, and the crime scenes, which made us feel like Batman.
More Bat-Vehicles, Please!

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[Credit: Rocksteady Studios]If you give us a vehicle, do NOT stick to just one. While the Batmobile was awesome and took away from the tedious process of trying to glide and grapnel everywhere, it unfortunately became one of the biggest flaws of Arkham Knight because it overstayed its welcome; many missions with it became repetitive and tedious.
If you want to properly portray the Caped Crusaders, then give us more vehicles and variety in travel. We want the Batwing, we want the Batcycle...hell, we want the freaking Batboat. Even on Robin's side, you can give him the Red Bird motorcycle or whatever vehicle you think he should have.
Allow Us To Explore ALL Of Gotham!

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[Credit: Rocksteady Studios]Do not lie to us again. Arkham Knight was said to have all of Gotham at our fingertips, but instead we got three tiny islands that ALL LOOKED THE SAME. Arkham Origins gave us a diverse selection of districts to explore, and they looked great.
If you want to give us the "ultimate Batman simulator," then give us all of Gotham City to explore — or if you have to reduce it to only a section of Gotham, like the leak mentioned, just tell us that. Don't lie about it just because you want to get people hyped. If games like Grand Theft Auto or the more recent Ghost Recon: Wildlands can give us entire cities/countrysides to explore, then I know Rocksteady can do it.
The leak mentioned a never-before-seen coastal area of Gotham City, which gives me some interest.
Give Us A Variety Of Things To Do

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[Credit: Rocksteady Studios]You know why Arkham Knight was disappointing, besides everything else I listed? Every mission was just the same thing repeated three times, and every boss battle required no strategy: just punch the boss until you win.
Give us more stuff to do both in the missions and in the open world: minigames, activities and other things besides just beating on criminals or figuring out the incredibly tedious Riddler challenges. I don't want to be bored by side missions like I'm performing chores; I want them to be satisfying and fun.
More Challenge Would Be Appreciated

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[Credit: Rocksteady Studios]One of the biggest disappointments of Arkham Knight was the fact that it was the easiest entry in the series yet. For some it took months to complete a run in Arkham Origins or Arkham City, but many could 100 percent accomplish Arkham Knight in just a few days, which is just ridiculous for such a big triple-A title today.
As I mentioned before, the bosses were also incredibly easy, with Deathstroke being labeled one of the worst boss fights in recent gaming history; you knock him out with ONE hit. Wooooow. If you want fans to be happy, give us a game that would take several months to 100 percent, with added challenges and bonuses.
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[Credit: Rocksteady Studios]Right now, Rocksteady is walking on thin ice; this new entry might be the finale that we should have gotten, or it might kill the series indefinitely. So hopefully Rocksteady learned from its numerous mistakes with Arkham Knight and will give us the true ultimate Batman and Robin simulator.
Are you excited for Batman: Arkham Insurgency or do you think that WB Games and Rocksteady should have left the series alone? Let me know in the comments!

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[BrollySupersj]

The writer of the article needs to correct some stuff. Like the fact Rocksteady didn't make Arkham Origins, and isn't developing Arkham Insurgency (if it's real). It's WB Montreal.

 

[Nardz937]

https://***********/RocksteadyGames/status/836556178062782465

 

[I Am The Knight]

They def need scriptwriters

 

[zenith16]

The writer of the article needs to correct some stuff. Like the fact Rocksteady didn't make Arkham Origins, and isn't developing Arkham Insurgency (if it's real). It's WB Montreal.

True Dat. The person that wrote that article on now loadings site is very, very confused. Very.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

They def need scriptwriters

Was going to say the same...

 

[GamerSlyRatchet]

They def need scriptwriters

Hey, I'll apply.

 

[zenith16]

Hey, I'll apply.

when you join make sure they get some people that have worked with Bruce timms too. they really need people from that writing staff.and to do what Bryan fuller did for star trek discovery on how make stories. lol

 

[GamerSlyRatchet]

when you join make sure they get some people that have worked with Bruce timms too. they really need people from that writing staff.and to do what Bryan fuller did for star trek discovery on how make stories. lol

Okay. I'll have to avoid Timm himself, though. Don't want Bruce to hook up with Barbara once again.

 

[zenith16]

Okay. I'll have to avoid Timm himself, though. Don't want Bruce to hook up with Barbara once again.

your right we've all had enough of that with barba passing herself around the bat family bruce and tim.

sadly this was some through outthe comic industry too wild cat they wanted Emma frost to do the same when new x-men started that was the original plan etc. oy not sure what's wrong with the current writers. it was ok when we had verity and all side inthe relation spectrum were represented. well almost all sides . but not every has to have been with every one. Do your best man .

 

[A Necessary Evil]

They def need scriptwriters

 

[Oscorp]

AK should have been that game. I obviously love Joker, but he was a drag on AK for me. Totally unnecessary inclusion in that game. Monologue after monologue in nearly every scene, sometimes even yapping in the background when another character is trying to speak. The whole finale revolved around him more than Scarecrow or Jason.

The only Joker tie in the game should have been the sick Jokers in the movie studio, and Harley trying to get them for herself.

I honestly feel the other way around! :P

I loved the Joker hallucinations but absolutely hated the Joker disease plot. It felt like a completely unnecessary continuation from the plot of Arkham City, while they instead could have delved more into what Joker's death actually means and what consequences it brought. I think they did some of it in Arkham Knight already but the disease plot felt like a very shallow way of showing Joker's legacy.

Meanwhile, the Joker hallucinations said more about Batman than Joker, which I found interesting. They could have just made him a hallucination as a consequence of the fear gas, predictable as it would be.

 

[Slade W]

I really liked Scarecrow in the game, and would love to see a similar version of the character in a movie.

 

[The Joker]

I honestly feel the other way around! :P

I loved the Joker hallucinations but absolutely hated the Joker disease plot. It felt like a completely unnecessary continuation from the plot of Arkham City, while they instead could have delved more into what Joker's death actually means and what consequences it brought. I think they did some of it in Arkham Knight already but the disease plot felt like a very shallow way of showing Joker's legacy.

Meanwhile, the Joker hallucinations said more about Batman than Joker, which I found interesting. They could have just made him a hallucination as a consequence of the fear gas, predictable as it would be.

One of the chief complaints about AC was how Joker's poisoning the city plot was left hanging in there. What happened to Gotham, did Batman get all the tainted blood etc. So to see them pick up the slack of that and do something interesting with it was great.

That was a far more interesting legacy of the Joker's death than being a figment of Batman's imagination who just acts like a sarcastic commentator on everything he does. Batman shouldn't have been affected that way by Joker's death. I mean why would he. It made no sense. The Joker is the one who was obsessed with Batman, not the other way around. Batman would be happy to see Joker die and not give him a second thought. It did nothing to further Batman as a character, and was just a hokey plot device to bring Joker back even though he was dead. Ironically in the biggest role he's had yet.

It speaks volumes when a dead villain has a bigger role and more significant impact on the story than the ones who are alive and supposed to be the main antagonists.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Okay. I'll have to avoid Timm himself, though. Don't want Bruce to hook up with Barbara once again.

25 years of stunning work on DC characters, Batman in particular, and fans suddenly reduce his contribution because of a slight 20 second blip.

 

[Mani-Man]

AK biggest problem imo storywise is that it had 3 great potential storys and they put all 3 together in the same game.

Having the joker hallucination as part of the Scarecrow story(maybe due to a new fear toxin) would have worked better than the Disease plot imo.

They could have done the reveal of the arkham knight right at the beginning and work the Joker part into it(the joker hallucination could be caused due to batman feeling so much guilt)

But trying to tell those 3 storys together didnt help any of them.
To me, the joker hallucination part always felt like it was more of a last minute decision and was added in the last few months because they decided that they do need the joker in the game.

I love the joker, but i was a bit glad when they said in the early AK interviews and stuff that he is absolutly dead and all that.
I was looking forward to a game that puts focus on the other villians.
They should have kept him dead and not added him into AK at all imo.

 

[zeptron]

After playing Origins Blackgate, it made me a bit more annoyed with the Origins twist. Because it showed that Black Mask can actually be a credible threat.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I'm always surprised by the some Batfans love for Black Mask. I've never seen anything from him that earned my affection. I mean, I can understand some people bothered by him getting knocked down a peg by being owned by another villain, but thematically in Origins it worked for me because Black Mask symbolized the organized crime of Gotham, and with the new era of criminals (ie: freaks) barging in the door and destroying everything like a bull in a china shop is a common Batman story chapter.

Arkham Knight's biggest problem, and it's really Rocksteady's, is in the story's execution. They're just bad storytellers. I'm convinced nothing was planned out more than a game, because a good storyteller would have setup Jason's backstory in the previous games. If they'd done that, and sowed the seeds of the tragic story of the second Robin in Asylum or City, they would have had a lot more room to deliver the twist in Knight.

That and Rocksteady cannot seem to do a story without having someone kidnapped and held hostage. Even Batman got kidnapped in the series. By Harley. By Harley!

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I really liked Scarecrow in the game, and would love to see a similar version of the character in a movie.

He was barely in it though! Lol

 

[GamerSlyRatchet]

Injustice 2 will show off Scarecrow a lot more than AK did. Amazing.

After playing Origins Blackgate, it made me a bit more annoyed with the Origins twist. Because it showed that Black Mask can actually be a credible threat.

I need to play that sometime. I still have a Beware the Batman skin to claim.

 

[Boom]

So the March 8th announcement has nothing to do with Batman after all?

 

[Nardz937]

So the March 8th announcement has nothing to do with Batman after all?

Unfortunately, it doesn't look that way.