BvS Batman casting thread for Man Of Steel 2 - Part 8

[Rodrigo90]

Then who's vice president, Jerry Lewis?

 

[Doctor Jones]

I highly doubt it's for this film. I'd be open to it and it could be interesting, but I'd much rather have someone else play Batman. Now if he's in Episode VII, that I could definitely get behind.

 

[regwec]

Whatever happened to Del Toro's Mountains of Madness? I was looking forward to that.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Then who's vice president, Jerry Lewis?

I suppose Jane Wyman is the first lady.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Whatever happened to Del Toro's Mountains of Madness? I was looking forward to that.

Universal wasn't really willing to put that much money in such a high risk R rated horror film so they canned it. I'm sure there are other factors that we don't know about, but that's the gist of it.

It's why he jumped to Pacific Rim instead.

 

[Deserana]

Cumberbatch can be incredibly charming and could easily do the Playboy side and he can clearly do dark. The only obvious issue is that I don't think he could bulk up enough. Into Darkness is Cumberbatch bulked up.

I certainly wouldn't be opposed to it because as someone who is familiar to pretty much all his work he is a fantastic actor., don't remember ever hearing an American accent though other than in The Whistleblower which was a fine attempt.

 

[Mysteryman]

I suppose Jane Wyman is the first lady.

Jane Fonda plays Nancy Reagan

 

[Mysteryman]

Universal wasn't really willing to put that much money in such a high risk R rated horror film so they canned it. I'm sure there are other factors that we don't know about, but that's the gist of it.

It's why he jumped to Pacific Rim instead.

yeah , Del Toro almost got Tom Cruise for the lead role in that .

 

[Rowsdower!]

Universal wasn't really willing to put that much money in such a high risk R rated horror film so they canned it. I'm sure there are other factors that we don't know about, but that's the gist of it.

It's why he jumped to Pacific Rim instead.

I still think it's crazy how he manage to sell a studio into paying for that movie but couldn't get the backing for Mountains of Madness. I get that big budget R-rated films are a risk, but the "giant robots fighting giant monsters" genre isn't exactly a surefire thing either to throw $200 million at. And the box office results proved that.

 

[regwec]

Unless you tried to film MoM on location in Antarctica, I don't see why the budget would need to be that huge. Much of the alien architecture was seen from the air, or below ground, making it relatively simple CGI/set work, and the "monsters" themselves have a limited role.

 

[slumcat]

Snyder, unlike Nolan, will likely want a moderately muscular Batman though.

Snyder always wants his leading men to be extremely muscular.

This is what he had to say about Superman.
My taste level goes to the more muscular Superman. The bigger, more muscular Superman, the way Jim draws him.
and
I like designing male icons I guess that's how it is - fitness icons - that's the real goal. No it's true and I guess I bring it on myself a little bit (to design these icons). It was really important from the beginning. I told Henry, "Listen, you are gonna be wearing this skin tight suit and I want you to look like... you know... a freak... like you should be in crazy shape." And he really said he embraced the concept a 100% because (of) you know the idea that you see the suit and you can see his body underneath it and you think "Oh that's gotta be a rubber suit, right?". (So) then I really wanted to include a scene where he had no shirt on so that you could say, "Wait a minute, that is what's under there".

I think he will similarly set the bar high for the actor who gets cast as Batman to have an insane physique. So the actor cast should be able to muscle up to the extent Snyder wants.

 

[shauner111]

Snyder always wants his leading men to be extremely muscular.

This is what he had to say about Superman.
My taste level goes to the more muscular Superman. The bigger, more muscular Superman, the way Jim draws him.
and
I like designing male icons I guess that's how it is - fitness icons - that's the real goal. No it's true and I guess I bring it on myself a little bit (to design these icons). It was really important from the beginning. I told Henry, "Listen, you are gonna be wearing this skin tight suit and I want you to look like... you know... a freak... like you should be in crazy shape." And he really said he embraced the concept a 100% because (of) you know the idea that you see the suit and you can see his body underneath it and you think "Oh that's gotta be a rubber suit, right?". (So) then I really wanted to include a scene where he had no shirt on so that you could say, "Wait a minute, that is what's under there".

I think he will similarly set the bar high for the actor who gets cast as Batman to have an insane physique. So the actor cast should be able to muscle up to the extent Snyder wants.

Thanks for this quote. Now im of the belief that the new Batman will have to train like a mofo.

It scares me though, because you never know if Snyder will try to get Manganiello for Batman for that reason.

Josh Brolin is the only older actor with chops that I think can get into amazing shape to match Cavill in some way.

Remember when Frank Miller said he wanted Stallone to play his Returns-Batman after watching "Rocky Balboa". Haha uh oh! Zack is going to Frank for this!

 

[Supernewbie]

Snyder always wants his leading men to be extremely muscular.

This is what he had to say about Superman.
My taste level goes to the more muscular Superman. The bigger, more muscular Superman, the way Jim draws him.
and
I like designing male icons I guess that's how it is - fitness icons - that's the real goal. No it's true and I guess I bring it on myself a little bit (to design these icons). It was really important from the beginning. I told Henry, "Listen, you are gonna be wearing this skin tight suit and I want you to look like... you know... a freak... like you should be in crazy shape." And he really said he embraced the concept a 100% because (of) you know the idea that you see the suit and you can see his body underneath it and you think "Oh that's gotta be a rubber suit, right?". (So) then I really wanted to include a scene where he had no shirt on so that you could say, "Wait a minute, that is what's under there".

I think he will similarly set the bar high for the actor who gets cast as Batman to have an insane physique. So the actor cast should be able to muscle up to the extent Snyder wants.

Then if this is how Snyder will want Batman, Joe Manganiello would "set the bar" .... with heavy weights and bench at his maximum.

 

[shauner111]

Manganiello or Brolin would be the guys for the job.

Joe would make a solid Batman but a dull as **** Bruce Wayne. But of course, Cavill is a bit wooden at times. He's not an Oscar worthy actor by any means, and I have a hard time believing he'll ever get nominated for one. But he's perfect for Superman. Maybe Manganiello is right for Snyder's Batman if he wants him to be jacked, be more about "Batman" than Bruce Wayne...and serve as a cold, almost monotone Bruce. The problem is he feels like a meathead who wouldn't be able to convey genius intelligence. Then again, maybe he's smarter than he looks in real life.

Too bad Cavill wasn't aged, id totally go with Mel Gibson for a Miller Batman. He's nuts! And jacked right now!

 

[Supernewbie]

Mel Gibson would've been a great Batman/Bruce Wayne back in the day... but he could still be an older Lex Luthor who's in great shape. He'd be another actor like Costner or Crowe to bring some gravitas... better post this on the Luthor thread.

 

[ZIPBAGS]

Cumberbatch could be up for Lex or some other villain.

 

[slumcat]

Now im of the belief that the new Batman will have to train like a mofo.

He definitely will. I would blindly do a role in a Snyder film because that means I get to be in the most amazing shape of my life.

It scares me though, because you never know if Snyder will try to get Manganiello for Batman for that reason. Josh Brolin is the only older actor with chops that I think can get into amazing shape to match Cavill in some way.

He won't cast based on physique but he will keep it in my mind. Its the preference he has for the look but obviously there are a multitude of other factors that he will consider. Plus he has the most amazing trainers in the world (Gym Jones) as his best friends literally. So if the actor cast has potential, Snyder will definitely see to it that he gets in awesome shape.

Remember when Frank Miller said he wanted Stallone to play his Returns-Batman after watching "Rocky Balboa". Haha uh oh! Zack is going to Frank for this!

You know, that ain't a bad idea at all. Stallone is nothing to sneeze at, he's a legendary star and you absolutely need stars for such larger than life roles. Miller wanted Stallone, Aronofsky wanted Eastwood. I am cool with both. Both legends.

 

[slumcat]

Then if this is how Snyder will want Batman, Joe Manganiello would "set the bar" .... with heavy weights and bench at his maximum.

Cavill had to work for 8 months to get his MOS physique, Joe M could start filming tomorrow! That man does not even need to make a transformation, he's already in insane shape.

But of course he's unlikely to get cast. Snyder approached him for MOS but HBO wouldn't let Joe M audition.

 

[shauner111]

Mel Gibson would've been a great Batman/Bruce Wayne back in the day... but he could still be an older Lex Luthor who's in great shape. He'd be another actor like Costner or Crowe to bring some gravitas... better post this on the Luthor thread.

He'd make an even better Batman now! If they were going with a mid 50s Bruce it would be perfect. You see his pics training for Expendables? The guy would be perfection for Miller-Bats. But unfortunately (or is it fortunately?) theyre probably looking for younger since Henry is so young.

I always thought Mel would be a great Two-Face as well.

 

[The Shape]

To dismiss Gosling as just another "pretty boy" would be ignorant, IMO. The dude has serious chops and has demonstrated his ability in several roles like 'Drive' and 'The Place Beyond the Pines'. If you haven't seen the latter, I highly recommend it. He portrays a character with a shady past wrestling with inner turmoil. If he were to bulk up and get. New hairstyle, I'd be interested in seeing how he could pull of the role of Bruce/Batman. He'd certainly be a better choice than Bomer. I'm confident he could bring the intensity necessary for this role.

I'm not by any means advocating him for this part, but I'm simply open to it. At this point, I'm not really campaigning for any actor in particular. I have faith that Snyder and his team will find someone fitting for the role. I think it's silly to campaign or "choose" an actor without knowing what Snyder's vision will be. Bale was a great choice that was far from obvious at the time so I'm hoping something similar happens this time around. "Outside the box" is my credo for Batman casting. Picking an actor based soley on his looks and build is quite silly, if you ask me.

 

[slumcat]

wouldn't be able to convey genius intelligence

Bale's Batman NEVER conveyed genius intelligence. He readily walked into traps all the time and did no research leaving Alfred or Lucius to do all the mentually taxing work.

So in that regards Joe M is no worse than Bale. Bale's Batman never seemed like a detective or intelligent person to me.

 

[Supernewbie]

Mel Gibson is 57 and Sylvester Stallone is 67 and both are so physically fit, so yeah they are a close real life version of how Batman would be at those ages.

If they go older, then might as well go with a much older actor who's still in phenomenal shape. Sort of how Expendables has opened the door for the 80's movie heroes to return. I guess it can work for a "Batman The Dark Knight Returns" style hero in MOS2.

 

[shauner111]

You know, that ain't a bad idea at all. Stallone is nothing to sneeze at, he's a legendary star and you absolutely need stars for such larger than life roles. Miller wanted Stallone, Aronofsky wanted Eastwood. I am cool with both. Both legends.

10 years ago Eastwood would have been the perfect Batman Beyond Bruce, but now he's too old and out of acting. It's too risky.

10 years ago when Stallone was training for Rocky, maybe he was on Miller's radar. But now he's a few years short of 70. He's too old. And honestly, he's done the Rocky thing, the Rambo thing. He's not Batman material. YO SUPERMAN! I DID IT!! I BEAT YOU! *crooked mouth*

But Gibson is at that age that Stallone was back then. And he's in amazing shape. He would be the guy I would go to if they were doing Frank Miller 100 percent. But ill settle for Brolin who is 10 years younger than Mel.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Snyder always wants his leading men to be extremely muscular.

This is what he had to say about Superman.
My taste level goes to the more muscular Superman. The bigger, more muscular Superman, the way Jim draws him.
and
I like designing male icons I guess that's how it is - fitness icons - that's the real goal. No it's true and I guess I bring it on myself a little bit (to design these icons). It was really important from the beginning. I told Henry, "Listen, you are gonna be wearing this skin tight suit and I want you to look like... you know... a freak... like you should be in crazy shape." And he really said he embraced the concept a 100% because (of) you know the idea that you see the suit and you can see his body underneath it and you think "Oh that's gotta be a rubber suit, right?". (So) then I really wanted to include a scene where he had no shirt on so that you could say, "Wait a minute, that is what's under there".

I think he will similarly set the bar high for the actor who gets cast as Batman to have an insane physique. So the actor cast should be able to muscle up to the extent Snyder wants.

Good find, Slumcat. And, yes, considering that this character [Batman] has generally been portrayed (in the comics and DCAU) as the ultimate human physical specimen, Snyder will surely endeavor to get his actor in the best shape possible.

 

[The Shape]

Nothing against the actor himself, but I'm anti-Brolin for this film.