BvS Batman Physique Thread

[gohei_]

You could have the best personal trainer in the world and you still can't put on 30 pounds of lean muscle in 3-4 months like some of these stars are. There are limits to the human body that apply no matter what.

That's true.

 

[HUMANIMAL]

check the video i posted...and those whose gains are so tremendously like mel gibson (or the rock) which he has to take something at this level) for example are sure in the crossfire for getting substances helping them increasing their training...no doubt

 

[HUMANIMAL]

so all i can say is when watching at fotos of ben affleck...(man thats sounds wrong somehow) is, with this frame and alot of hard workout...and (like tom hardy said: alot of fat and camera tricking) that he is gonna look huge as batman...i mean the latest fotos ..imagine a cape wrapped around his wide shoulders proper camera angle and lighting...damn

 

[gohei_]

check the video i posted...and those whose gains are so tremendously like mel gibson (or the rock) which he has to take something at this level) for example are sure in the crossfire for getting substances helping them increasing their training...no doubt

If you are talking about muscle gain, I see nothing dramatic in that video. Sure he packed on some muscle but mostly he lowered his body fat.

 

[HUMANIMAL]

he did both gained weight and kept his bodyfat down

 

[gohei_]

Perhaps he did, but weight gained is not the same as muscle mass gained.

 

[HUMANIMAL]

he gained muscles dont you see the diffrence? he is heavier and more ripped than before...that is lean muscle mass...yeah despite the normal amount of fat percentage a human has when he is not a pro bodybuilder during competition

 

[HUMANIMAL]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...leading-men-using-PEDs-claims-new-report.html

 

[gohei_]

Yeah I see the difference and he gained muscle but nothing crazy. You don't think he gained 7kg of muscle mass in 100 days do you?

 

[HUMANIMAL]

he was low on bodyfat anway, he made results and thats the main point...not only look wise but also in terms of competition...as when it comes to acting the main goal is to look the part no matter how much of it is alll just muscles or just pumped up before the camera rolls...ever heard of krealkalyn? using this for a workout i look diffrent from one day to another. but i kept some mass which is great non illegal stuff works aswell...havent you seen the scene where cavill is doing pull ups before shooting the oilplatform scene?

 

[hafizbat]

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/whats-my-genetic-muscular-potential.html

HUMANIMAL, telling stories of your friends and looking at before and after pics is not enough to prove that you can gain that much muscle in such a short time. The link I posted contains several of the most respected, PhDs in nutrition and have written several great books (these guys know their stuff) has a consensus that only .5 lbs of PURE MUSCLE is realistic. "Gaining 10 lbs of muscle in a month" or other things you claim are simple not possible naturally, my friend.

Like I've said before, gaining just 5 lbs of pure muscle ALONG WITH losing 10 lbs of pure fat can make a WORLD OF A DIFFERENCE in how muscular you look. Even Cavill and Jackman were not bodybuilder huge, they had decent muscle mass and were cut as hell.

 

[HUMANIMAL]

ok i guess you saw the video i posted...i stated i gained 10 pounds in 6 weeks thats a bit more than a month and its not only muscle mass for sure, i also said that when it comes to my friends it was 16 pounds in three months keeping their abs visual like before and they trained their butts off not like me who only went three times a week...as a matter of fact its certenlay a temporary gain...but we are talking about whats possible in a short period of time ...and maybe even without the use of php... you keep the weight as much as possible but getting more cut yeah, thats bulking up and get rid of the excess fat...how long did cavill train? 6 months ?

 

[DvilDog]

Guys I want you to put this in perspective. Anything is possible, but lets take for example, someone we know to be on the juice in this instance. Dorian Yates, if you didn't know was a 6 time Mr. Olympia and was in his prime in the early to mid 90's before overtaining injuries ended his career. In 13 years of bodybuilding he gained 70lbs of muscle. It took him 13 years to gain 70lbs of muscle while on the juice. This guy who actually worked out for a living, ate 5000+ calories a day while bulking, and was using a cocktail of multiple steroids was only able to put on 70lbs of solid muscle in 13 years. I say only even though that is a huge amount of lean muscle mass.

 

[HUMANIMAL]

what i read so far is all can say: cavill has done it possibly without the use of php's...now since this is the batman physique thread...i really wonder how ben will look like when start filming...and reading about his workout as well can be interesting

 

[slumcat]

hey they got bigger and stayed in shape without illegal substances so hard to believe? i trained with one of them, he is a personal trainer and i made gains in no time like never before. focus intensity nutrition enough rest...actors dont necesseraly lie...i mean they are actors they pretend for a living and its certanly hard to take everything they say seriously...but theres also alot of jealousy involved when they appear in front of the camera, like: noway he must have taken something...thats not always the case...and like i said it has not to be illegal either...mmmm guess this belongs more to the gym thread, sorry

here is a good example i found time ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuhzWKbRq6s

That video is an ad basically, never trust those. It is very hard to take those videos seriously. The fitness industry frankly is rife with faking. Health covers are photoshopped, roided models promote supplements and say they got big on that.

Watch this below vid below where a guy makes a before and after photo just 4 hours apart.

 

[slumcat]

Kept abs on creatine? Not without a serious amount of dehydrating yourself before showing them off (Henry dehydrated for 2 days for his 8-pack shot). Because that literally goes against how the substance works, so either your friend aren't human, or something else was going on (also some of that will be water weight from the creatine, too).

I know Jackman had dehydrated himself for two days to deepen his muscle definition, didn't know Cavill did it too! Interesting.

 

[slumcat]

with a base like this no illegal stuff is needed till his superman shape...sidenote, 2 friends of mine gained 16 pounds in 3 months with intense training, alot of eating, a preeworkout booster, creatine and alot of protein...no illegal stuff was involved and both kept their abs ( had to edit it ) it was 3 months and 16 pounds (8 kilograms)

That wasn't the base for MOS. Between Immortals and MOS, Cavill did a small movie called The Cold Light Of Day. He turned up on set all ripped with a eight pack but the director was horrified and asked him to lose it for the shirtless scenes in Cold Light Of Day. So he had to lose all the muscle tone he had achieved for Immortals and look like this.

So this was kinda his base, this was the shape he auditioned in! Cavill said he felt mortified to wear the spandex audition suit in this shape and he thought some ripped guy would win the role but Cavill got the part anyways.

But he got time. He started MOS training in Feb 2011 and filmed his shirtless scenes in October 2011. So a good 9 months to get where he needed to be.

 

[slumcat]

What non-elite athlete type regularly balances over 5000 cals a day while staying in decent shape? that's about twice the recommended calorie intake for a man.

My point is most of these actor types who gain mass for these role are not elite athletes regardless of how good their natural bases may be. The reason they are able to consume these many cals without becoming plain fat, is because like I said they go through condensed workouts where they are weight training 4-5 hours a day 5 days a week for months on end. A regiment that would actually be damaging to regular (natural) people due to the amount of over-training and lack of rest periods for muscle growth. Howerver on HGH for example, the healing process is radically sped up so muscle is growing continually regardless of needed rest periods.

I'm not calling anybody out or accusing them of cheating just clearing things up. I know a good deal about this stuff and what a natural body can go through. When a lot of amateur gym types (who may already be in good shape) read about these workouts the stars do and try to imitate them it's often disastrous.

4-5 hours wouldn't be required. People usually bulk for a few months and they life extremely heavy, go very very big on the weights and very intense so you can definitely burn up a lot of calories in a 2-2.5 hour workout too. And since actors don't have regular energy draining 12 hour jobs, they are basically resting and eating super healthy food for 22 hours. Even while bulking they eat less fats. So it can work for them.

 

[slumcat]

what i read so far is all can say: cavill has done it possibly without the use of php's...now since this is the batman physique thread...i really wonder how ben will look like when start filming...and reading about his workout as well can be interesting

Cavill's trainer said that Cavill was absolutely 100% natural and said that he had to be because any information to the contrary would sink the movie's marketing campaign. They heavily promoted Cavill's transformation and if it turns out he cheated, that would be disastrous. He said even more so for the role of Superman, the transformation had to be achieved naturally.

 

[slumcat]

About the entire muscling up debate, there are a lot of factors at play. First all amateurs gym goers (I consider myself one since I ain't a personal trainer or hire one) never clean bulk. Me and my friends all gained a lot but for sure there was fat too not just muscle.

Secondly, there's definitely some "beginners luck" in bodybuilding too. A person, even a fit one, who has never trained very hard in his life will absolutely respond to intense training much better than a seasoned gym goer. So people who are starting out get exponential results in the beginning and gradually plateau out. The half pound a week rule applies to hardened body-builders mostly I think, beginners can circumvent that or atleast have accelerated pace before they plateau out too. I myself put on 17 pounds in 2 months, but I was a very scrawny guy before and I surely put on fat as well.

A lot of these actors who are not known for the bodies and suddenly bulk up have the above advantage, they are starting out so have more success than say someone like Jackman who has been training for decades. Even Cavill had success putting on muscle for MOS because he had never trained at that level before in his life. He was a fit person before but not the sculpted superhero he was in MOS. Even for Immortals, he did not bodybuild. He put on almost no size on for Immortals, he did no weight lifting, it was all about just stripping the fat and toning up for a deeply cut appearance.

And my transformation from the scrawny lad to 17 pounds heavier was a permanent one. So is I think is Cavill's. He's now broader of shoulder and bigger in the chest and upper body than he was before MOS and by his own admission he did not train all that much in the downtime after MOS shoot ended but still kept the bigger proportions, so his body actually transformed.

And lastly there is the concept of bodytypes. Some bodies respond better to weight training than others - there are ectomorphs and mesomorphs and there is the genetic wall that some people can hit. Howmuchevrer they train, they are not able to transform their bodies beyond a certain point.

So it is very difficult to make generalizations regarding bodybuilding results. They can vary a lot given all the variables above. No two people will respond exactly the same way to the same plan or the same training.

 

[SuperInfidelX]

I don't care what kind of "vitamins" Affleck uses to get there, but his physique for Batman should be that of a crossfit champion. Muscles too big would impede flexibility and agility. I see Batman as being the most fit person on earth, so he should look like it. I won't be impressed unless Affleck comes in looking like this:

 

[lime]

I think Affleck will be the hugest Batman we have seen on film

 

[hafizbat]

I don't care what kind of "vitamins" Affleck uses to get there, but his physique for Batman should be that of a crossfit champion. Muscles too big would impede flexibility and agility. I see Batman as being the most fit person on earth, so he should look like it. I won't be impressed unless Affleck comes in looking like this:

This body would be ideal for Bats. He somehow looks like he can lift huge weights but do crazy gymnastics at the same time....haha which he can

 

[HUMANIMAL]

hey!!! stop posting pictures of me

 

[HUMANIMAL]

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