BvS Batman Physique Thread

[G.Godfrey]

it's for the bat voice

LOL, but ugh, thanks for reminding me of that horrible ''bat'' voice...and the lisp that came along with it. Batman with a lisp, lol. I'm sure Ben can't do no worse than that.

 

[dnno1]

This was Affleck back in October. I think a lot of people are getting bent out of shape over the way you look just because he's wearing a loose fitting shirt. It's hard to tell with person's build wearing clothes like that. I seriously doubt but he is not in shape now.

 

[G.Godfrey]

Pencil neck and chicken leg Batman! Yay! t:

Just kidding...

 

[slumcat]

^ What you got on the face, you got on your abs. And going by the face, he has got a lot of fat on his abs.

Look at his face in The Town, completely chiseled. His face looks lean because he is completely shredded in that movie, not a whole lot of fat on him.

That's not to say a chubby or puffy Batman can't be strong or can't have muscles. It is just that he has fat covering his muscles so you can't see them. But this probably isn't the batgod that most fans are hoping to see in this movie.

Or maybe Affleck will pull a Cavill (Cavill also looked lacking before we realized better) and just shock everyone with his physique.

 

[hafizbat]

^ What you got on the face, you got on your abs. And going by the face, he has got a lot of fat on his abs.

Eh, that doesn't mean your abs can't show. I'd say these brutally strong powerlifters hardly have "chiseled" faces, but their abs can be clearly seen. They just have to be big enough.

 

[craigdbfan]

Eh not comparable. The first two are definitely using HGH so that explains the protruding gut.

 

[slumcat]

Eh, that doesn't mean your abs can't show. I'd say these brutally strong powerlifters hardly have "chiseled" faces, but their abs can be clearly seen. They just have to be big enough.

Well spot reduction of fat doesn't really happen. If you have low fat, you tend to have low fat all over. That is why when you want to show your abs, you can't just reduce the fat on your abs by doing crunches, you have the lose fat in general.

 

[Spamtron]

Eh not comparable. The first two are definitely using HGH so that explains the protruding gut.

Do you have any fact base for this kind of claim? Unless you know for certain someone is taking product you are just spreading possible lies and possibly hurting someone's character.
"Oh his stomach protrudes and he has muscles, he has to be on hgh or steriods." Gee couldn't be because they spent 2+ hours lifting hundreds of pounds a couple times a day in training 5-6 days a week and have a decent genetic base to start with.
people who have never done the actual hard work can easily dismiss others who do with the drug excuse comments.

 

[Brian Braddock]

One of the most well known side effects of steroid use is water retention in the face. I don't know if muscle-bellies are partularly indicative of HGH use.

 

[slumcat]

Well having a six pack and a gut at the same time looks incredibly strange and you would think there is something unnatural about it, it is counter-intuitive. Such people are usually supposed to be on some kind of juice but you never know.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Do you have any fact base for this kind of claim? Unless you know for certain someone is taking product you are just spreading possible lies and possibly hurting someone's character.
"Oh his stomach protrudes and he has muscles, he has to be on hgh or steriods." Gee couldn't be because they spent 2+ hours lifting hundreds of pounds a couple times a day in training 5-6 days a week and have a decent genetic base to start with.
people who have never done the actual hard work can easily dismiss others who do with the drug excuse comments.

Yes there is factual basis behind what he claimed. It is called HGH gut where the internal organs begin to protrude due to overgrowth caused by HGH use.

Those are clear visual signs. The fact that there is little fat on the body but a noticable protuding from the midsection. Ronnie Coleman has one of the worst examples of it.

Even the admitted roiding bodybuilders of the 70's didn't have to worry about protruding guts due to the fact this was before the widespread use of HGH.

 

[DKDetective]

Yes there is factual basis behind what he claimed. It is called HGH gut where the internal organs begin to protrude due to overgrowth caused by HGH use.

Those are clear visual signs. The fact that there is little fat on the body but a noticable protuding from the midsection. Ronnie Coleman has one of the worst examples of it.

Even the admitted roiding bodybuilders of the 70's didn't have to worry about protruding guts due to the fact this was before the widespread use of HGH.

Actually that theory is about 7 years out of date. It is believed to be caused by organ growth due to HGH anymore. The more accepted theory now is that the abdominal distension seen on current bodybuilders is due to abuse of insulin causing a growth of visceral fat around the internal organs while subcutaneous bodyfat decreases. It explains why certain bodybuilders who abused HGH and other more recent substances have begun to lose their abdominal distension. If the distension was caused by HGH-related organ growth the distension would be permanent. HGH was in use well before the current rise of abdominal distension in bodybuilding. The rise in distension more closely corresponds with the increased use of insulin for muscle growth.

EDIT: Also, the images of powerlifters/strongmen posted by hafizbat aren't really indicative of drug use related abdominal distension like Ronnie. They more just look like people whose core muscles have grown along with the rest of them. Unlike bodybuilders and folks who train for aesthetic purposes, powerlifters and strongmen do not use belts to reduce the work done by their cores. Going back to Arnold, bodybuilders used belts and other techniques to reduce the hypertrophy of their core muscles in order to keep their waists as small as possible.

 

[Wildcard]

I think Batman's physique should be nearly comparable to Batman, but just big enough to have the strength necessary while also being able to make use of his agility.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Actually that theory is about 7 years out of date. It is believed to be caused by organ growth due to HGH anymore. The more accepted theory now is that the abdominal distension seen on current bodybuilders is due to abuse of insulin causing a growth of visceral fat around the internal organs while subcutaneous bodyfat decreases. It explains why certain bodybuilders who abused HGH and other more recent substances have begun to lose their abdominal distension. If the distension was caused by HGH-related organ growth the distension would be permanent. HGH was in use well before the current rise of abdominal distension in bodybuilding. The rise in distension more closely corresponds with the increased use of insulin for muscle growth.

You're probably right on this. I have been hearing it is more so caused by insulin abuse. It's just that the name "HGH gut" has stuck around.

 

[Spamtron]

What you are showing on coleman is far different from the examples craig was referring to... I have seen far too many times where folks make these false claims with no basis. You may be taking legit evidence on one case and blanketing many others with only the slightest showing of an attribute. You know how gassy eating a boatload of whey protein can make you? No matter how shredded you are a gut full of gas will give the same effect. Shoot I've gone to bed looking 7 months pregnant and farted myself awake and skinny throughout the night.

 

[hafizbat]

Well spot reduction of fat doesn't really happen. If you have low fat, you tend to have low fat all over. That is why when you want to show your abs, you can't just reduce the fat on your abs by doing crunches, you have the lose fat in general.

Where in my post did I say anything to contradict this? I just stated that if your abdominal muscles are well-developed, you don't need to be under 15% body fat. Not sure what you're getting at with the spot reduction...

 

[Bruce Malone]

Where in my post did I say anything to contradict this? I just stated that if your abdominal muscles are well-developed, you don't need to be under 15% body fat. Not sure what you're getting at with the spot reduction...

If you can work hard enough to make your abs visible at all at 15%, it would probably be well within your means to simply cut down under 15% so they are more visible.

The only people I can think who would fit your description would be some powerlifters who don't care much about body fat% but I don't think batman should have a power lifter physique.

 

[matt47]

The main thing I want is a agile batman, not to the extent of Spiderman because we'll...that's impossible for a human(yes, even bats)

 

[hafizbat]

Yeah, I don't think he should look like a powerlifter either, I was simply challenging the notion that Affleck's chubby face means he's in bad shape.

I have always thought the ideal physique for Batman would be that of an NFL football player (safety or running-back). Strong enough to routinely tackle/engage 200+ lb men of equal strength, fast enough to fly all over a 100 yard football field (most players run the 40 yd dash in 4-5 seconds), and durable enough to endure physical beatings every time they step on the field.

 

[Bangarang]

Like I said previously, Batman would not have a lean or in any way an aesthetic build in reality. He would look like a mix of an Olympic lifter and a gymnast undoubtedly. Most likely he would have a fairly undeveloped chest because the bench press, flies, etc.aren't practical lifts and serve little to any real life purpose. Although this is my opinion just like everyone else has the right to one. Batman would not be able to do the things he does without an extensive background of explosive full body strength training and with the limited amount of time he has available nearly all of his training and physique would reflect this. Dmitry Klokov is most likely what a real Batman would look like.

 

[DKDetective]

Like I said previously, Batman would not have a lean or in any way an aesthetic build in reality. He would look like a mix of an Olympic lifter and a gymnast undoubtedly. Most likely he would have a fairly undeveloped chest because the bench press, flies, etc.aren't practical lifts and serve little to any real life purpose. Although this is my opinion just like everyone else has the right to one. Batman would not be able to do the things he does without an extensive background of explosive full body strength training and with the limited amount of time he has available nearly all of his training and physique would reflect this. Dmitry Klokov is most likely what a real Batman would look like.

No offence, but what the hell are you talking about? Olympic gymnasts have highly aesthetic, well-balanced physiques. As well, it is highly unlikely that Batman would have an underdeveloped chest. The pectorals are used along with the triceps to extend the arms away from the torso push things away, so things like punching and grappling. Yeah, Batman never does those things. As well, your theory completely ignores the aerobic and cardiovascular elements of Batman's career. You know things like running, jumping and scrambling over rooftops. Your physique choices are both largely anaerobic sports, that involve little aerobic and cardiovascular activity. An Olympic lift is over in seconds and a gymnastic routine a few minutes. If you want to debate realism, Batman would look like a cross of an Olympic gymnast, martial artist, and some form of endurance athlete. Not like a cross of two types of strength athletes.

 

[hafizbat]

I agree completely, my exact thoughts after reading his post where also "what the hell are you talking about?"

As Mark Twight, Cavill's trainer always says, "Aesthetics follow function". And Batman would be the most functional athlete a human could potentially be, so you can bet his physique would be aesthetic.

 

[InJustice]

Anyone who emphasizes strength over flexibility, endurance, and acrobatics has no idea what Batman's ideal physique would be. It's cringeworthy to see hulking and overtly muscular body types being brought up.

 

[BatFan1979]

Batman is primarily a ninja - ninja's aren't known for their bulging muscles, but for their sleek, agile, yet strong physiques IMO. I mean, I know Batman does more than just sneak around in the shadow's, but getting too bulky does limit your movement to a degree. In all honesty, with Ben's frame, I would like to be a solid Batman, but not nearly as built and defined as many of the comics depict him as being.

 

[Bangarang]

No offence, but what the hell are you talking about? Olympic gymnasts have highly aesthetic, well-balanced physiques. As well, it is highly unlikely that Batman would have an underdeveloped chest. The pectorals are used along with the triceps to extend the arms away from the torso push things away, so things like punching and grappling. Yeah, Batman never does those things. As well, your theory completely ignores the aerobic and cardiovascular elements of Batman's career. You know things like running, jumping and scrambling over rooftops. Your physique choices are both largely anaerobic sports, that involve little aerobic and cardiovascular activity. An Olympic lift is over in seconds and a gymnastic routine a few minutes. If you want to debate realism, Batman would look like a cross of an Olympic gymnast, martial artist, and some form of endurance athlete. Not like a cross of two types of strength athletes.

My point was clearly misunderstood I guess about the chest. Batman would NOT place much emphasis on chest training if any at all. Overhead press is a far superior bio-mechanical and practical movement. Unless batman is underneath a dogpile or in batman begins fallen debris having a super strong chest would not come in handy.
If you really think I'm wrong then do some research, the bench press is completely overrated in american society and anyone who knows anything about strength training knows that unless you're a powerlifter where it's a required movement or a bodybuilder where you would be left with an unbalanced physique you simply do not perform the movement.
You may possibly attain some hypertrophy in the pectorals from dips but that is all that is needed.
Also I know several Utah State gymnasts and I would love to hear you tell them they don't have aerobic endurance, haha. You obviously have no idea how gymnasts train if you think they are purely strength. That was my entire point of adding that style of training to round out the pure explosive strength side. Also to harp back on the chest thing again, male gymnasts have underdeveloped chests compared to powerlifters, bodybuilders, etc. why because it's not a movement worth isolating for hypertrophic response.

Also celebrity trainers, train their clients for aesthetic purposes so going by what they have said is not the best idea. I would look into functional strength coaches/athletes. Mobility is actually HUGE in the fitness world currently. Look to athletes like Bryce Lewis, Ben Rice, etc. They all focus largely on mobility in their training, they also although are incredibly strong are not the most aesthetic either because their training revolves around practicality; does the exercise help my core lifts? No? Forget about it.

Judging from the logic in this thread and the fact that every time I try to post some sort of reason it gets denied by the superior knowledge of internet heroes and celebrity trainers or even quotes from the actors themselves, hah. I'm done posting in this thread, the amount of misinformation floating around here is exhausting.