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Did not like Hellboy. And I like everything else of Del Toro's I've seen.
Hellboy has a somewhat 'bland' origin.
Did not like Hellboy. And I like everything else of Del Toro's I've seen.
Marketing and the freshness of IM will give it more money, not too mention the bigger market. Sure batman has more fans, but the general public is much bigger than any fanbase, If a mother wants to take her two 8 year olds to a movie, it's gonna be IM, not TDK.
Not sure on hulk's BO yet, from what I know about all the films, I'm expecting it to be higher quality than the rest(except hellboy 2).
Yea but quality doesnt always turn into box office success, TDK probably wont be any darker than B89 was and B89 made 250+ mill (US ALONE), I think IM will be big, dont get me wrong, but I think TDK has more to worry from HP(if it comes out next year) than it does from IM.
I have no problem with character, in fact I welcome it over continued action. Just found it underwhelming and not particularly interesting.
Oh Ok, thank you for the info, I don't know Obediah Stane, so I still stand by my post.The Mandarin won't be in Iron Man. It has already been confirmed they went with Obediah Stane, and left out Mandarin for a possible sequel.
Marketing and the freshness of IM will give it more money, not too mention the bigger market. Sure batman has more fans, but the general public is much bigger than any fanbase, If a mother wants to take her two 8 year olds to a movie, it's gonna be IM, not TDK.
The Devils Backbone and Pan's Labyrinth. Very interesting, absorbing pieces, loved the mixture of fantasy and real-life, and the Spanish Civil war setting is great. haven't seen Cronos or Mimic.Fair enough.
Changing the topic slightly, what Del Toro films have you seen, and your thoughts on them?
Fair enough.
Changing the topic slightly, what Del Toro films have you seen, and your thoughts on them?
Oh I know quality and BO are miles apart, I think TIH wil be great quality, but it's BO could be quite low. IM will be Ok-decent quality, but high BO. TDK will be OK and have decent BO.
My thoughts, and hellboy 2 will be high quality and have OK BO![]()
Oh I know quality and BO are miles apart, I think TIH wil be great quality, but it's BO could be quite low. IM will be Ok-decent quality, but high BO. TDK will be OK and have decent BO.
My thoughts, and hellboy 2 will be high quality and have OK BO![]()
Yes, because when I think Transporter - I think quality
Yes, Hulk has Roth and Norton - but nothing else promising. The script was so bad, Norton had to re-write it.
I'm not much of a fan of the second (who is?) and I'm also a big fan of the third, but the original easily defines the character and the franchise for me.And here I thought I was the only one.
I'm not dissing Indy. He's a cool character for sure. But, I don't think the first two movies are interesting. It's that constant conflict with his father that really defines his character and makes it interesting. Connery was like the Caine(BB) of the Indy films. Sorry = little chinese boy and miriam annoy the hell out of me. Characters can be annoying to other characters, but they shouldn't be to the audience.
The third one is the only good one IMO, so if the 4th one is anything like the 3rd I'll love it.
- Jow
Batman is known by everyone in America. Iron Man is known by the select few. That alone gives TDK an advantage.
Plus you would be surprised about the indifference many mothers have these days - everytime I saw 300, there were many pre-pubescent boys enjoying the sex, blood and beheading with me.
The Devils Backbone and Pan's Labyrinth. Very interesting, absorbing pieces, loved the mixture of fantasy and real-life, and the Spanish Civil war setting is great. haven't seen Cronos or Mimic.
Cover of empire, pushing INDY 4 and TDK to small sub stories was IM. The marketing is gonna kick up etc. We don't even know what rating TDK will be yet. I'm sure it'll get cut up so it's a lower rating, but still, it could be something other than a 12A/PG13.
Guillermo Del Toro is probably the best director working today. He is so similar to Nolan in the sense of always over-delivering his film(s). Go Toro! You can make one kick-ass Hellboy sequel!
Guillermo Del Toro is probably the best director working today. He is so similar to Nolan in the sense of always over-delivering his film(s). Go Toro! You can make one kick-ass Hellboy sequel!
I'm not saying that, just IM will be more accessible for children and as a family film than TDK.
Because Iron Man was, as you said, fresh. That doesn't improve his rather low name recognition in the country.
As far as it not being PG13 - no, it really couldn't.
Alfonso Curion. Children of Men > Pans Labyrinth
I'll say again, as for family film. No. It definetly won't be as dark and mature as TDK but using the term family film is a little too much.