Batman v. Superman vs Thor: The Dark World

[Bats123]

Hate both very much, but uh....i guess uh, i'll go with Thor cus i like Loki?....yeah i'll go with that.

 

[Finarfiniel]

TDW and it's no contest. The end credits scroll is better than BVS.

It's so true.

 

[First Avenger]

Do you at least like the two big battles, Bats vs Supes & Trinity vs Doomsday? I can understand the aversion to Chihuahua Lex and the grim tone, but isn't the massive smackdown worth it?

The Bats vs Supes fight was hugely disappointing for me and comes way too late in the movie.

 

[Consona]

The first mentioned is bold, interesting, visionary, layered, profound, emotional, auteur epicness, the latter is an okay-ish CBM sequel, the second part with Thor and Loki moments is way better than the first hour of the movie.

Happy BvS day.

Plus it's funny this thread put Snyder's movie and Thor next to each other, because I've been thinking for some time already how excellent it would be to have a proper Ragnarok/Twilight of the Gods movie directed by Zack. With the Comedian funeral -like poetic music-filled visual emotional feasts, his beloved MoS/BvS mythological larger-than-life sensibilities, solemn and melancholic atmosphere, with something like, imagine the Supes vs The World Engine awesome fight but between Thor and Jörmungandr. Omg! t:


And btw, it's Batman v Superman, not Batman vs Superman.

 

[FunkMiller]

Well, I can remember virtually nothing of Dark World, whereas the awfulness of BvS is scorched into my cerebral cortex... so, BvS I guess?

 

[Finarfiniel]

Plus it's funny this thread put Snyder's movie and Thor next to each other, because I've been thinking for some time already how excellent it would be to have a proper Ragnarok/Twilight of the Gods movie directed by Zack. With the Comedian funeral -like poetic music-filled visual emotional feasts, his beloved MoS/BvS mythological larger-than-life sensibilities, solemn and melancholic atmosphere, with something like, imagine the Supes vs The World Engine awesome fight but between Thor and Jörmungandr. Omg! t:

Dear god, the thought of Snyder being allowed anywhere near my favourite Marvel hero fills me with absolute horror. I have no doubt he would utterly butcher Thor as thoroughly and totally as he butchered Batman and Superman. Synder!Thor would likely be an oafish, brooding, super violent brute that lacks any of the charm, inherent goodness and heroic nobility of his comics counterpart.

Thankfully, I'll never have to worry about such an abomination as Marvel Studios would never in a million years allow Snyder anywhere near one of their properties. Life is good.

 

[Mjölnir]

Well, I can remember virtually nothing of Dark World, whereas the awfulness of BvS is scorched into my cerebral cortex... so, BvS I guess?

This has nothing to do with which film people vote for, but I do find it a bit funny when I see some people that have reacted like this.

To me the logic of it sounds like someone that would think it's worse to have an unremarkable, uneventful day than to have one where you broke a leg, or got completely humiliated in public, because that's memorable.

 

[FunkMiller]

This has nothing to do with which film people vote for, but I do find it a bit funny when I see some people that have reacted like this.

To me the logic of it sounds like someone that would think it's worse to have an unremarkable, uneventful day than to have one where you broke a leg, or got completely humiliated in public, because that's memorable.

Fair point. I guess in filmic terms, maybe awful is better than completely unmemorable? At least it provoked a reaction, instead of none. And most of the warehouse fight was good. I couldn’t remember a set piece from TDW if you held a gun to my head.

 

[Mjölnir]

Fair point. I guess in filmic terms, maybe awful is better than completely unmemorable? At least it provoked a reaction, instead of none. And most of the warehouse fight was good. I couldn’t remember a set piece from TDW if you held a gun to my head.

It's still subjective what's better in that situation, I just expressed my own view on it as a concept and it's really irrelevant which films are in the comparison as far as that goes.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Thor 2 is more BLAND and uninspired than outright bad, .

Do a lot of veteran Thor fans feel this way? I was sold after seeing Bor, and I really liked the inventive nature of the portal fight.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

The first mentioned is bold, interesting, visionary, layered, profound, emotional, auteur epicness, the latter is an okay-ish CBM sequel, the second part with Thor and Loki moments is way better than the first hour of the movie.

Happy BvS day.

Plus it's funny this thread put Snyder's movie and Thor next to each other, because I've been thinking for some time already how excellent it would be to have a proper Ragnarok/Twilight of the Gods movie directed by Zack. With the Comedian funeral -like poetic music-filled visual emotional feasts, his beloved MoS/BvS mythological larger-than-life sensibilities, solemn and melancholic atmosphere, with something like, imagine the Supes vs The World Engine awesome fight but between Thor and Jörmungandr. Omg! t:


And btw, it's Batman v Superman, not Batman vs Superman.

Thor has done nothing wrong to be condemned to death by injection of Snyder poison.

Neither has Superman and Batman.

 

[Samuron]

To me the logic of it sounds like someone that would think it's worse to have an unremarkable, uneventful day than to have one where you broke a leg, or got completely humiliated in public, because that's memorable.

Yeah, by the reasoning proffered, that worse is somehow better, I guess the David Hasselhoff Nick Fury movie is the best CBM of all time.

 

[AlluAllu]

What did you like about it? I ask this not in a truculent manner, but one of genuine curiosity. I've heard people say that it's Marvel's weakest offering (I completely disagree) or worse. I'm always happy to see positive reactions.

Well, I was referencing Ragnarok there. I'm one of those who think The Dark World is in MCU bottom tier, but I still liked Darcy, felt that Thor's relationships with Odin and Loki were interesting and that Thor going rogue was exciting.

 

[DrCosmic]

This has nothing to do with which film people vote for, but I do find it a bit funny when I see some people that have reacted like this.

To me the logic of it sounds like someone that would think it's worse to have an unremarkable, uneventful day than to have one where you broke a leg, or got completely humiliated in public, because that's memorable.

This. It is an absolutely marvelous bit of rationale to look at a movie versus thread and decided it's neither about about quality or enjoyment, it's about memorability. The DCEU has not done that kind of loyalty justice and they should be ashamed.

EDIT: Speaking of. Three things I remember about TDW that I liked:

1) There is a particular shot when Thor does a jump twist off a balcony and catches Mjolnir as he calls it to him to take off which was so slick to me.

2) Frigga grabbing up a sword as she escorted Jane around was totally badass. Incidentally thats kinda how I knew she was gonna die.

3) The hammer started flying towards a different planet when they teleported during the final fight, which I thought was so epic. I wish they had played that up more.

And at that point I start thinking of all the missed opportunities of TDW and then I get sad...

 

[Erzengel]

Thor: Dark World and I'll even admit to having higher standards just because BvS in it's previews got my hopes of a nice take on the Dark Knight Returns then it totally disappointed me. I can probably flip the channels and stop on Thor: Dark World, I'd only stop at BvS to giggle at the end of the BvS fight. Don't get me wrong, I don't hold Dark World in the highest regards but mediocre or pedestrian is better than disappointing to me.

 

[FunkMiller]

This. It is an absolutely marvelous bit of rationale to look at a movie versus thread and decided it's neither about about quality or enjoyment, it's about memorability. The DCEU has not done that kind of loyalty justice and they should be ashamed.

I think half my problem is, both of them were crap, and I find it hard to seperate or rank one above the other. Which probably means I shouldn’t post in this thread anymore.

*ducks out like Howard*

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

This has nothing to do with which film people vote for, but I do find it a bit funny when I see some people that have reacted like this.

To me the logic of it sounds like someone that would think it's worse to have an unremarkable, uneventful day than to have one where you broke a leg, or got completely humiliated in public, because that's memorable.

I totally agree. I'd take bland and inoffensive over a car crash any day. Not even close. Being memorable isn't necessarily a good thing.

 

[DA_Champion]

I totally agree. I'd take bland and inoffensive over a car crash any day. Not even close. Being memorable isn't necessarily a good thing.

[silly pedantry]
A lot of people would rather go to monster truck rallies though.
[/silly pedantry]

 

[Lantern Venom]

This. It is an absolutely marvelous bit of rationale to look at a movie versus thread and decided it's neither about about quality or enjoyment, it's about memorability. The DCEU has not done that kind of loyalty justice and they should be ashamed.

EDIT: Speaking of. Three things I remember about TDW that I liked:

1) There is a particular shot when Thor does a jump twist off a balcony and catches Mjolnir as he calls it to him to take off which was so slick to me.

...

Indeed, that was a pretty sweet shot.

 

[The_Manhunter]

It's silly how people say these films have no redeeming qualities. They both have great production design, music, cinematography, sets, costumes, sound direction, action scenes, choreography, and so on and so on.

We're so overwhelmed with riches in the superhero genre right now, we're losing perspective.

Well said.

 

[scarlet-witch]

TDW is kind of underrated, IMO. The villain was forgettable but I enjoyed everything else. I liked it better than Thor.

 

[FunkMiller]

This poll is basically choosing between:

Watching a llama with diarrhoea being fired out of a cannon.

Watching somebody else watching paint dry.

 

[The Joker]

This poll is basically choosing between:

Watching a llama with diarrhoea being fired out of a cannon.

Watching somebody else watching paint dry.

 

[Murdock103]

The thing that annoyed me about The Dark World is that is basically has the same plot as Thor 1, but instead of Thor being petulant, he’s now heroic?

Thor 1 - An alien race (frost giants) attack Asgard. Thor decides to rush off to their home world to fight them after being told not to by Odin. Thor is petulant and foolish. Thor is shown to be wrong in his actions.

Thor 2 - An alien race (Dark Elves) attack Asgard. Thor decides to rush off to their home world to fight them after being told not to by Odin. Thor is being wise with a strong plan of attack. He’s breaking the laws and ignoring his king, but it’s definitely not petulance this time!

I can’t recall any other movies (and there probably are) where the same character, reacts to the same situation, in the same way, defying the same character, but his actions are attempted to be painted as on completely opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of characters traits.

Now saying all that, I’m guessing that maybe this was intentional, and this was supposed to juxtapose the different emotional states of the characters? Or something?
But it doesn’t come across particularly well in the movie.

 

[Batmannerism]

Thor TDW kept me entertained, had some good Thor/Loki moments, humour, a litttle drama and some reasonable action.
The worst things about it were the somewhat underwhelming villain (Kurse was good) and the awful Kat Dennings.
Thor still comes out of it looking pretty good - a mediocre but watchable film.

B v S kept me wondering when it was going to get good....and never did. It was overlong, excessively grim, and while it was neat seeing Batman kick ass like never before and Wonder Woman was impressive that didn't make up for the terrible characterisation of Lex Luthor - or the two title characters. The worst thing about it was it made my two favourite comic book characters completely unlikable - an easily manipulated murderous psychopath and a mopey, conflicted lame duck. Ugh, suddenly Kat Dennings doesn't look so bad.
A film that is almost unwatchable and has delusions of mediocrity.