The Dark Knight Batman VS Joker: The final Battle

[Solidus]

It was proven false, I think he's mistaken.

It may have, but I don't think it was 100% confirmed. But I still stand by that. I think the machine gun part is not at the end. Why would they have both end battles from BB and TDK being in some what the same area?

That and from the set/character sheets a month back said one of the sets was a "Slaughter house/meat house" or something. When those websites released that info, either in December/January.

 

[The Joker]

The Semi flip is not at the end. I'm sure of that. It is when with set reports after the semi flips the cops take him and his thugs in jail. And that is only it seems half way through the movie because Joker escapes. I will bet money the semi flip is not the final fight.

I think you're right, because his make-up in the jail cell scene in the trailer has a big flesh exposed patch on his forehead.

Whereas in the scene on the street, where he says "Come on, hit me", and we get the last close up shot of him turning around and smiling, the make-up on his forehead is still pretty much intact. It's only slightly faded with a few brow lines coming thru.

 

[The Joker]

I think you're right, because his make-up in the jail cell scene in the trailer has a big flesh exposed patch on his forehead.

Whereas in the scene on the street, where he says "Come on, hit me", and we get the last close up shot of him turning around and smiling, the make-up on his forehead is still pretty much intact. It's only slightly faded with a few brow lines coming thru.

Perhaps some pics to help illustrate what I'm saying:

 

[Solidus]

Perhaps some pics to help illustrate what I'm saying:

Yea I noticed that as well, and the thugs seem to be the ones from kidnapping Rachael after the party.

Good eyes Joker.

 

[The Joker]

Yea I noticed that as well, and the thugs seem to be the ones from kidnapping Rachael after the party.

Yes, there's probably the big chase with the BatPod and Joker's circus truck after the party scene, where Batman pursues Joker and his goons. And, Joker ends up being captured.

It is hard to piece together the order of events in this movie sometimes, but the state of Joker's make-up is a help

 

[joker27]

Well if you see the pic where joker is in the cell did anyone notice teh way his hair is back. Now this is just a theory but i think the scene in the trailer where joker's head is out in the police car is where he gets arrested, that would explain why his hair is all back and the way his make up is all smudged. Also he has gloves in that scene if he were escaping the cell I dont think he would have time to get his gloves. So i personally believe that scene where joker is in cop car isnt when he escapes from jail but actually before he gets captured Anyone else agree.

 

[Solidus]

Well if you see the pic where joker is in the cell did anyone notice teh way his hair is back. Now this is just a theory but i think the scene in the trailer where joker's head is out in the police car is where he gets arrested, that would explain why his hair is all back and the way his make up is all smudged. Also he has gloves in that scene if he were escaping the cell I dont think he would have time to get his gloves. So i personally believe that scene where joker is in cop car isnt when he escapes from jail but actually before he gets captured Anyone else agree.

No that would not be the case. No way would any cops let such a insane serial killer that has done so much damage sit in the back of a cop car with no hand cuffs and the window rolled down. It is when he escapes.

 

[Grinning-smile]

The semi flip just seems so like a final battle though, the whole lead up to it, the road chase/fight, then what happens after. And if you're saying that it can't be the end because the joker and his thugs get arrested, well if he's already broken out of jail, then he's a fugitive who would be arrested again, also it was set up for him to be in the next film, so he wouldn't die, therefore he'd have to be caught again. Maybe i'm thinking about it too much, but it just seems like an ending to me, not a throwaway fight midway through the movie, because where do you go after that for a finale?

 

[Grinning-smile]

Plus the jail stuff with the smudged make-up could be at the end? The film doesn't have to have a conventional final fight, we are talking about a guy who's films are usually twisty turney in the end, and he did basically re-tool the way we think about the comic cool movie with the last one, why not have the ending be that the joker gets the final laugh in jail, after all the other stuff.

 

[joker27]

Iam not saying he is already arrested because your rite they would cuff him. Because if you pay close attention to when he is in the cell you"ll noticed his hair is a mess, that would be probally because his head was out the window of the police car. Iam not saying he is arrested but its the scene before he gets arrested.f There is no way he escapes that cell its packed with officers and swat. This is what I believe that happens, Gordan tries to interogate joker but gets nothing out of him so he calls batman to help him out. Now this could be why gordan has to destroy the signal because of this scene. Since batman its trying to put the laws in his on hands. FOr batman to get the chance to interogate the joker its probally with the help of gordan, if you have seen the pics you'll noticed that the door is locked with a chair so no one can come in. So the cops know the only way that batman came in is because someone let him hence them have suspicion with Gordan's and batman team up. So the force him to destroy the signal not for him to contact batman anymore. If joker does escape i have a good feeling its when he is being transported to asylum or jail. But i mean there is no way he can escape the police station and if he does I wonder how they will pull it off. The bomb in the guy theory is really pushing it.

 

[fear&loathing]

i was under the impression that the final battle took place near the ferries.

 

[joker27]

Plus the jail stuff with the smudged make-up could be at the end? The film doesn't have to have a conventional final fight, we are talking about a guy who's films are usually twisty turney in the end, and he did basically re-tool the way we think about the comic cool movie with the last one, why not have the ending be that the joker gets the final laugh in jail, after all the other stuff.

yeah exactly i think the final scene with the joker is the interogation scene, and probally gets clue from the jokers big plan. I have a feeling the joker being put into jail and them concentrating on him is just a distraction for his real plan. Even though he is in jail it still could be carried out.

 

[Solidus]

Iam not saying he is already arrested because your rite they would cuff him. Because if you pay close attention to when he is in the cell you"ll noticed his hair is a mess, that would be probally because his head was out the window of the police car. Iam not saying he is arrested but its the scene before he gets arrested.f There is no way he escapes that cell its packed with officers and swat. This is what I believe that happens, Gordan tries to interogate joker but gets nothing out of him so he calls batman to help him out. Now this could be why gordan has to destroy the signal because of this scene. Since batman its trying to put the laws in his on hands. FOr batman to get the chance to interogate the joker its probally with the help of gordan, if you have seen the pics you'll noticed that the door is locked with a chair so no one can come in. So the cops know the only way that batman came in is because someone let him hence them have suspicion with Gordan's and batman team up. So the force him to destroy the signal not for him to contact batman anymore. If joker does escape i have a good feeling its when he is being transported to asylum or jail. But i mean there is no way he can escape the police station and if he does I wonder how they will pull it off. The bomb in the guy theory is really pushing it.

No we do have footage that was shown in August at Wizard Con, that showed a fat guy/thug that has a bomb in his stomach, and the script proves this as well. So no the bomb thing is how he escapes or helps him escape. And that is 100%. There is footage/script behind it.

 

[Solidus]

is there a link for the script anywhere?

It's not the full script. It's "the sides" On this comp I'm on I don't have them. I know lots have the sides. Later I could PM some, as of right now I don't have them on this computer. But most of the regulars on here have the "sides"

 

[Bright Knight]

No we do have footage that was shown in August at Wizard Con, that showed a fat guy/thug that has a bomb in his stomach, and the script proves this as well. So no the bomb thing is how he escapes or helps him escape. And that is 100%. There is footage/script behind it.

The gentleman in question is in the background of the Empire pic of Heath as the Joker in the cell.

 

[joker27]

The gentleman in question is in the background of the Empire pic of Heath as the Joker in the cell.

Is the fat guy aware, and if he blows up i mean to destroy the wall it would also harm joker. He is rite behind him, and how would joker know that they would put his goons or whatever behind him. But it is probally going to happen but keep in mind there is still the interogation scene with batman i though first he would be in his cell then he would be interogated by batman. If it is true then im glad cuz i honestly thought that the last we would see of joker is the interogation once you have the scripts pm cuz i never knew they had proof.. and that wasn't int he wizard con footage i read the full review and they mention no guy or fat guy blowing up or having bomb.

 

[Solidus]

Is the fat guy aware, and if he blows up i mean to destroy the wall it would also harm joker. He is rite behind him, and how would joker know that they would put his goons or whatever behind him. But it is probally going to happen but keep in mind there is still the interogation scene with batman i though first he would be in his cell then he would be interogated by batman. If it is true then im glad cuz i honestly thought that the last we would see of joker is the interogation once you have the scripts pm cuz i never knew they had proof.. and that wasn't int he wizard con footage i read the full review and they mention no guy or fat guy blowing up or having bomb.

Yes they did. There are many regulars on here that will back that up, later I will find you the link to the Wizard Con descriptions. There is a guy with his stomach and a red light blinking inside of it. Trust me.

 

[fear&loathing]

i hope the fat guy unknowingly eats the bomb via a "steak bomb" sub.

 

[joker27]

Yeah its just I never heard that i was official all i thought it was just rumour or theory. But it does make sense i just wonder how nolan will pull it of visually. I dont think he literary ate it, if u see the red light its because its under his shirt. I checked some descriptions but they didnt mention that once you find it just pm to me or post it here that might explain why he is clapping?

 

[Solidus]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=12455493&postcount=75

From one of our members that saw the footage:

"The craziest thing I saw, that has not been mentioned at all, at least I dont think so, is a shot of a man laying on a table with his shirt open, and you can see a little blue light, almost like a camera flash, emanate and blink for a second from INSIDE THE MAN"S STOMACH! the second after that, EXPLOSION. that little clip of the light coming from the guy's gut is frickin sick, and i think it maybe the scene described in the Sides where the thug who was in jail is all like "my insides hurt" or whatever. gross gross gross, but effin sweet!

 

[Solidus]

Yeah its just I never heard that i was official all i thought it was just rumour or theory. But it does make sense i just wonder how nolan will pull it of visually. I dont think he literary ate it, if u see the red light its because its under his shirt. I checked some descriptions but they didnt mention that once you find it just pm to me or post it here that might explain why he is clapping?

Yes it is why most likley he is clapping we believe. But the description is above for you.

 

[CaptainClown]

It wouldn't be that hard to put a bomb in someone especially if its a small one. Just chances are they won't know about it. I don't think any of the goons in the jail cell know except for The Joker.

 

[joker27]

you said there is also sides of it? whenever you get it can you pm it i have read some but never of a guy saying he didnt feel good. Now i actually hope it is true cause i seriously believed that once joker was captured he would never escape. He would just stay in jail for the rest of teh movie or something.

 

[GoogleMe94]

he looks like an ICP clown.

 

[Ecstasy]

you said there is also sides of it? whenever you get it can you pm it i have read some but never of a guy saying he didnt feel good. Now i actually hope it is true cause i seriously believed that once joker was captured he would never escape. He would just stay in jail for the rest of teh movie or something.

Ah, you underestimate the Joker.