Batman Vs. Spider-Man

[Cunning Stunts]

My coworkers and I are all big comic book fans.

Whilst three of us are major DC fans, one other is big on Marvel instead.

We came to a discussion about who would win, Spider-Man or Batman.

Spider-Man has the benefit of powers, yet Batman is widely regarded as one of the most intelligent comic book characters, even across both companies. I like both heroes, although Batman is ultimately my favorite superhero... Even so, regardless of my preference, Batman seems like the utterly logical pick to me.

Obviously, the three DC fans said Batman would win, with my argument being that no amount of ability can overcome intelligence if intelligence is used properly (which should come hand-in-hand with someone as smart as Batman) which I've both seen proven and experienced in my martial arts classes.

Also, our Marvel-loving coworkers opinion was kind of discredited when he began running his mouth off about Spider-Man being able to defeat any DC character. He's one of those narrow-minded kind of people. I've also heard others, including my girlfriend who doesn't have a specific preference over either company, vote for Batman.

I was curious as to what some more comic-lovers would think. It's a nerdy concept, true, but I'm curious nonetheless.

 

[Mutagen]

I vote for Batman.

 

[Nathan Petrelli]

He's one of those narrow-minded kind of people.

Are there any other type of Marvel fans?

I believe Batman would crush Spider-Man, sure Spider-Man would be quick and has his wrist goo, but Batman would take him down easily. Spider-Man isn't that great of a fighter.

 

[gildea]

Obviously, the three DC fans said Batman would win, with my argument being that no amount of ability can overcome intelligence if intelligence is used properly (which should come hand-in-hand with someone as smart as Batman) which I've both seen proven and experienced in my martial arts classes.

You're ignoring how smart peter is.

Scientific genius and all.

 

[gildea]

Are there any other type of Marvel fans?

I believe Batman would crush Spider-Man, sure Spider-Man would be quick and has his wrist goo, but Batman would take him down easily. Spider-Man isn't that great of a fighter.

I'm wondering if this post is meant to be ironic.

Spider-man is faster, stronger, more agile, almost as smart and has the wall climbing and webs thing down.

You're saying batmans a great fighter but he constantly gets tagged by the joker simply because he's quite quick, well spidey is a helluva lot quicker than him.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

You're ignoring how smart peter is.

Scientific genius and all.

I'm wondering if this post is meant to be ironic.

Spider-man is faster, stronger, more agile, almost as smart and has the wall climbing and webs thing down.

You're saying batmans a great fighter but he constantly gets tagged by the joker simply because he's quite quick, well spidey is a helluva lot quicker than him.

I don't deny that part of Spider-Man's abilities include intelligence, but I really don't think his would match Batmans. Along with that, I never really thought that it would be a quick and easy fight on either side, and that both Batman and Spider-Man would get roughed up before a victor was revealed. However, whereas yes, Spider-Man is intelligent and can run circles around his opponent, Batman is very rarely outsmarted and beaten completely, and has numerous resources that he always has at hand.

Also, Batman's beaten Superman a number of times, as my coworker and I brought up to the Marvel fan (to which he also replied Superman couldn't beat Spider-Man either... He's a fanboy ).

Gildea, you also have to remember, great fighters aren't the ones who "never get tagged," they're the ones that do what they can to defeat their opponent, even if it means taking a number of brutal shots in the process.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

Are there any other type of Marvel fans?

I believe Batman would crush Spider-Man, sure Spider-Man would be quick and has his wrist goo, but Batman would take him down easily. Spider-Man isn't that great of a fighter.

Lmao. Now that you say that, back when I was a Marvel fan, I used to be very narrow minded about it too (although Batman was the very first superhero I ever followed, and ultimately my all-time favorite). I learned more about DC and quickly jumped on that boat. While I do like some Marvel characters, I just get into Marvel wholly anymore.

 

[Dark Carnage]

As bizarre a concept as realism is in an thread like this (Cunning, do you realise what you've started?) in reality Batman does have a chance of winning. But that's if he can survive long enough to dodge a single punch from Spidey that would make Bruce's head explode.

 

[gildea]

I don't deny that part of Spider-Man's abilities include intelligence, but I really don't think his would match Batmans.

You don't deny but don't mention either. Spidermans intelligence may not be the match of batmans however he is intelligent enough that it doesn't give bats the advantage you're implying.

Along with that, I never really thought that it would be a quick and easy fight on either side, and that both Batman and Spider-Man would get roughed up before a victor was revealed. However, whereas yes, Spider-Man is intelligent and can run circles around his opponent, Batman is very rarely outsmarted and beaten completely, and has numerous resources that he always has at hand.

Assuming a fair fight bats resources are limited to his utility belt.

Also, Batman's beaten Superman a number of times, as my coworker and I brought up to the Marvel fan (to which he also replied Superman couldn't beat Spider-Man either... He's a fanboy ).

Not in a fair fight he hasn't (i'm assuming we're stipulating a fair fight).

Gildea, you also have to remember, great fighters aren't the ones who "never get tagged," they're the ones that do what they can to defeat their opponent, even if it means taking a number of brutal shots in the process.

Don't deny this but spidey can asorb a lot more and dish out a lot more than bats is literally physically capable of.

 

[November Rain]

even if pete gets somewhat shocked by how resourceful bruce is, i don't think this would last long.

saying this, batman has rogues who are potentially more powerful than spidey so it really depends on how quickly he adapts.

i can see bats winning the 35 encounters out of 100...

 

[fifthfiend]

Superman.

No wait.

Goku.

 

[Jack O Lantern]

Are we really doing this?

Spidey win's in the time it takes to punch Batman. Really it's as simple as that. He's faster, stronger, more agile, has an early warning sense and his moves can't be predicted because they are not based on logic, techquie. People predict how someone would attack based on how their muscles are poised, Spidey's muscles work differently.

Does anyone else remember the True Believers Ninja's that Spidey fought in the 90's? They were highly trained Ninja assasians. One of the fights involved Spidey wrapping two up in a rug, then catching a thirds sword with the other two's forehead. That's how ineffective a normal person is against Spidey.

The fact that there will be people here who will say Batman can and will win sums up the reason why i've never been able to get into Batman books. The appeal of the character is supposed to be that he is a normal person who has trained himself to peak efficency. He's as fragile as we are and therefore has all the same limitations as us. Yet it seems with each passing year Batman gets more and more powerful almost to the point that he is the most powerful hero. He's out stopping people who other more powerful hero's can't stop, sometimes through phyiscallity and not intelligence. It seems that ever since he took down Superman in Dark Knight Returns that he has getting further and further away from being that "normal person." If Batman was indeed a normal person and he went into battle with someone as powerful as Spider-Man then he would be trounced easily. And that is why the books bore me. He is too super for someone with no super powers.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Spider-Man would win!

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Spider-Man would demolish Batman.

Furthermore; throw in Nightwing, Robin, Batgirl, Catwoman, and Huntress, all at the same time....and Spidey STILL wins.

Look at Secret Wars #3; Spider-Man takes on the X-Men, a group of super-powered mutants, and kicks their collective asses. You're telling me a bunch of glorified athletes are going to give him any trouble? Please.

The Bat-squad is moving in slow motion by comparison. And even if they somehow managed to slow him down, they could literally wail on him all day long and not even hurt him. All Spidey has to do is hit each of them once.


Better call in the JLA on this one, Bats.

 

[Themanofbat]

Better call in the JLA on this one, Bats.

t: t: t:

I agree... in a fair fight, Spider-Man wins... Bats would give him a good run, but at the end of the day, Spidey wins... no matter what the Bat-Fans say...

And this is coming from a user with a derivative of Batman in his name...

Spider-Man & Batman are my two favorite comic book heroes.

 

[Andy C.]

Jack-O-Lantern summed it up pretty perfectly.

 

[Nathan Petrelli]

Come on people. Batman has beaten Superman more then once.. Spider-Man has never accomplished something like that.

 

[SuperFerret]

Spidey's beaten guys on Supes level too at times. Firelord anyone?

Honestly, and realistically, it could go either way. Both are smart and capable fighters. Parker has this habit of underestimating threats at times, and relying too much on instinct and spider-sense (which can be fooled), plus he won't be using so much force to kill, or even knock Bruce out with one punch (even though he can). Bruce, however, knows not to hold back against superpowered opponents and will fight harder than Pete would. Obviously, Pete's big advantage is his Spider-sense, which Bruce won't have any knowledge of (and would have to be extremely observant to notice in the fight).

It could go either way, although I'd give Bruce the edge, as he's more willing to throw more at Pete, and has the added ability to ignore the Spider-quips.

 

[The Question]

Come on people. Batman has beaten Superman more then once.. Spider-Man has never accomplished something like that.

Batman has held Superman off with Kryptonite and distracted him with explosives and subsequently ran away. Really, what this is bringing up again is the whole question of prep-time. The only other times I can think of Bruce beating Superman were in Tower of Babel, where he used the resources of his company to synthesize Red Kryptonite to incapacitate Clark, and in Dark Knight Returns. And in DKR, he didn't simply get into a fight with Superman. He declared war on Superman, using plans and weapons he'd been putting into place for years, as well as having help from Green Arrow and Robin.

Really, if Batman planned everything out ahead of time with the purpose of capturing or subduing Spider-Man, he might have a shot. He would need the resources of his company and the aid of the bat-family, but he could do it.

However, if they just ran into each other and fought for some reason, Pete would deck Bruce and it would be over.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

It could go either way, although I'd give Bruce the edge, as he's more willing to throw more at Pete,

Meh. Villains far more ruthless than Batman have been "more willing to throw more at Pete", with less than spectacular results.

I dont really think that's any kind of advantage for Batman.

 

[Themanofbat]

Come on people. Batman has beaten Superman more then once.. Spider-Man has never accomplished something like that.

While I can't admit to have read all Batman/Superman battles, the ones I have read are the ones where Superman is typically "holding back", and Bats takes advantage...

 

[Nathan Petrelli]

Some of you are talking like Spider-Man is an invincible god-like figure, yet he struggles to beat flying Goblins and a guy with 4 metal arms.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Some of you are talking like Spider-Man is an invincible god-like figure, yet he struggles to beat flying Goblins and a guy with 4 metal arms.

And Batman got crippled by a steroid junkie. What's your point?

 

[Nathan Petrelli]

And Batman got crippled by a steroid junkie. What's your point?

I'm pretty sure Bane would destroy any Spider-Man rogue that isn't symbiotic.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I'm pretty sure Bane would destroy any Spider-Man rogue that isn't symbiotic.

Im pretty sure he wouldnt.