Batwing in front of the moon

[BatmanForNever]

It looks awesome but it was unneeded. he was too busy doing fancy flying and what not while the Joker is pumping the streets full of gas and chaos...people are dying and Batman is flying around surveying and joyriding.

 

[CFE]

It looks awesome but it was unneeded. he was too busy doing fancy flying and what not while the Joker is pumping the streets full of gas and chaos...people are dying and Batman is flying around surveying and joyriding.

It's a movie.

As for me, I to enjoy the moment very much.

I like how it breaks the fourth wall and suspends time for a moment. Kind of like the scene in 'T2' when Arnold walks out of the bar to "Bad to the Bone." Despite the story that was being told, the movie just stopped for a moment to allow audiences the chance to bask in the all-mighty 'bad-assness' that was Arnold Schwarzenegger in that role.

Same thing here. I credit Burton with giving Bat-Fans a lot of 'cheer' moments in both of his films.

Going off of what BatmanForNever said, of course it would've been more efficient for Batman just to lash out from the shadows to take out Nick and Eddie on the rooftop at the beginning of the film. But then we wouldn't have that Operatic, awe-inspiring shot of Batman standing there as monolithic as ever...unfurling his cape in slow motion.

I mean *sigh* what a shot...hell, what a movie!

CFE

 

[Gianakin_]

It was an iconic shot. I can always suspend my disbelief for that stuff.

 

[El Payaso]

Going off of what BatmanForNever said, of course it would've been more efficient for Batman just to lash out from the shadows to take out Nick and Eddie on the rooftop at the beginning of the film. But then we wouldn't have that Operatic, awe-inspiring shot of Batman standing there as monolithic as ever...unfurling his cape in slow motion.

I mean *sigh* what a shot...hell, what a movie!

CFE

It's the way you do it.For what I saw, Eddie and Nick got the fright of their lives. You can have great shots of Batman in that process. Batman still came from the shadows and got them. And I didn't see any unefficient thing about what he did.

 

[CFE]

It's the way you do it.For what I saw, Eddie and Nick got the fright of their lives. You can have great shots of Batman in that process. Batman still came from the shadows and got them. And I didn't see any unefficient thing about what he did.

Neither did I. I'm just going off what BatmanForNever said.

I mean look at Batman's first appearance in 'Begins' for instance, as opposed to his first appearance in 'BATMAN.'

In 'Begins' Batman moves in the blink of an eye. You only catch glimpses and he takes out Falcone's men like a bolt of black lightning.

On the other hand, Keaton allows the full effect of his appearance sink in, but he still does the job quickly.

BatmanForNever probably thinks the method from 'Begins' is more 'efficient' because Batman didn't take the time to allow himself to be seen as he had in 'BATMAN' and he just went about his business.

I personally prefer his first appearance in 'BATMAN.'

CFE

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Neither did I. I'm just going off what BatmanForNever said.

I mean look at Batman's first appearance in 'Begins' for instance, as opposed to his first appearance in 'BATMAN.'

In 'Begins' Batman moves in the blink of an eye. You only catch glimpses and he takes out Falcone's men like a bolt of black lightning.

On the other hand, Keaton allows the full effect of his appearance sink in, but he still does the job quickly.

BatmanForNever probably thinks the method from 'Begins' is more 'efficient' because Batman didn't take the time to allow himself to be seen as he had in 'BATMAN' and he just went about his business.

I personally prefer his first appearance in 'BATMAN.'

CFE

I like both but I agree with you totally.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

what?

you mean: "What Loraine, What?"

 

[El Payaso]

Neither did I. I'm just going off what BatmanForNever said.

I mean look at Batman's first appearance in 'Begins' for instance, as opposed to his first appearance in 'BATMAN.'

In 'Begins' Batman moves in the blink of an eye. You only catch glimpses and he takes out Falcone's men like a bolt of black lightning.

On the other hand, Keaton allows the full effect of his appearance sink in, but he still does the job quickly.

BatmanForNever probably thinks the method from 'Begins' is more 'efficient' because Batman didn't take the time to allow himself to be seen as he had in 'BATMAN' and he just went about his business.

I personally prefer his first appearance in 'BATMAN.'

CFE

I agree.

Begins' first appaerance was pure brilliance (I had problems with all the rest, which are done in the same way even when it's not needed, not allowing US to see him).

But yes. If Batman spend time preparing a batsuit to scare criminals I'd say it's not out of base to let criminals to see it a little. In B89's first appaerance, Batman let the thugs to shoot at him and then he let them see how he resurrects like a black ghosts. I agree that an invisible monster is quite scary but to actually see a human bat who's invulnerable to bullets is no picnic. That's the way the word got spread "they say he can't be killed" and the legend begins.

 

[Bat Attack]

LOL at whoever said it wasn't needed. its a movie!!

 

[Buttman]

Maybe they shot the miniature alone, then the clouds and sky/moon were a matte painting? I don't know.

I think your right. The batplane was a miniature on wires Star Wars style, and then the sky/moon were a matte painting. Full marks.

And yes I adore this shot, its probably the best most beautiful thing in the whole movie. And that is a film full of style and beauty, too.

 

[raleagh]

The clouds were cotton wool.

 

[Two-Face]

I love that shot so much in Batman. It looks so real it's amazing it wasn't done with CGI. Anyone else think it looks awesome?

Great cover for Danny Elfman's Batman soundtrack too.

 

[SHADOWBAT69]

I remember the audience cheered. It was meant to be a "moment", and it succeeded.

 

[TLH]

That was an awesome moment in the film. I thoroughly loved it. Ugh, you know what? I'm going to go watch B89. Be back later.

 

[StylishHokie21]

I wish I could have seen this in the theaters.

 

[The Spider-Bat]

I agree.

Begins' first appaerance was pure brilliance (I had problems with all the rest, which are done in the same way even when it's not needed, not allowing US to see him).

But yes. If Batman spend time preparing a batsuit to scare criminals I'd say it's not out of base to let criminals to see it a little. In B89's first appaerance, Batman let the thugs to shoot at him and then he let them see how he resurrects like a black ghosts. I agree that an invisible monster is quite scary but to actually see a human bat who's invulnerable to bullets is no picnic. That's the way the word got spread "they say he can't be killed" and the legend begins.

Well, I always thought of Batman's actions to be the primary fear factor, and the suit to be there to kind of stop thugs in their tracks, giving him that one valuable moment of shock (you know, the one when they look at him going "What the hell...") to finish them off. I loved Batman's first appearance in Begins, for the movie it made sense, realistically it made more sense than what we saw in '89, and best of all it kept the audience in suspense. Plus, it went along with Bruce's teachings, "Men fear most what they cannot see".

I always liked '89 for what it was, and that was a stylistic film depicting an extremely Gothic setting with a slightly insane character. And while the film certainly had its problems, I appreciated it for what it was, and Batman's first appearance was excellently done, even if it didn't make much sense. The fear on the two thug's faces were great, particularly the now famous: "I'm Batman" line. And I think the shot where the Bat symbol is formed from the plane and the moon, that might just be the greatest shot in the entire movie, hell, the entire four movies. The only thing in a Batman movie that beats it in my opinion, is the shot of Batman standing on the edge of the building from Begins. That was just perfect.

 

[Elevator Man]

It looks awesome but it was unneeded. he was too busy doing fancy flying and what not while the Joker is pumping the streets full of gas and chaos...people are dying and Batman is flying around surveying and joyriding.

I know this thread is two years old, but how was this scene unneeded ?

First off Batman performed this cool moment after he moved the balloons that was pumping the city with smylex gas away from Gotham. You'd notice that after he released the balloons and takes off. The next scene has Joker mad that the Batman foiled his plans so he takes it out on Bob and kills him. BTW, before Joker killed Bob in that scene you can clearly see people running around stealing the money on the Joker's thingamajig. Nobody was dying.

I always looked at logically in that scene that the Batman was making a u-turn in the sky. He needed a lot of room to turn around so he can go back and face the Joker.

 

[GothamAlleys]

I always looked at logically in that scene that the Batman was making a u-turn in the sky. He needed a lot of room to turn around so he can go back and face the Joker.

Same and thats the way Ive always seen it, Im surprised a lot of people didnt get it. Plus at the same time it showed a great imagery that was often shown in the early Bob Kane comics with Bat Gyro

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I remember the audience cheered. It was meant to be a "moment", and it succeeded.

Exactly... the kind of moment you need to quickly slap yourself in the face just to get over how awesome it was. t:

 

[Hardknox]

Iconic shot. Brilliant. Love how the sound just ceases as the Batwing comes to a stop.

That shot was magic.

One of the reasons I love this film over the rest, the iconography of Batman on screen.

 

[ALP]

This was the equivalent of ET and Elliot silhouetting in the moon. Pee Wee did it too in Big Adventure.

 

[ciscostudent561]

Enchanted by the scene as a kid, but now just kinda feels silly... oddly enough it fits into the mood of the film tho