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[NDX]

I found this site with the whole feud laid out.

http://www.videosurf.com/videos/sting+vs+guardian+angel+vs+vader

Thank you kindly.

 

[Metallo]

That was a pretty good tag match til Kane came out.The big brawl with the roster trying to break Edge and Kane up seemed awkward to me. Edge was slow and Kane was really lumbering out there. His punches looked weak too.

For anyone that missed this earlier

- Shawn Michaels posted a video on his YouTube page this morning regarding his future with WWE. Shawn announced that he and WWE have reached a deal that will see him stick around with the company for a long time.

Shawn says he's not returning to the ring and is not the RAW General Manager. Shawn also says that returning as an on-air character has not been discussed. It sounds like Shawn will have some sort of behind-the-scenes role with WWE as he says he wants to help them move forward. Shawn makes it clear that there's been no talk of him returning to TV.

Here's the video:
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[NDX]

Miz has looked good in the ring this week. Maybe we'll get a longer than expected reign from him.

 

[Metallo]

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Shawn Michaels unedited

December 16, 2010 by Kevin Sullivan Leave a Comment

Like Stone Cold Steve Austin and Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels spent an amazing amount of time with me while I was writing the WWE Championship book. Much of what he told me wound up in the book, but here are some portions of our conversation that did not make the final edit:

How did you celebrate your first WWE Championship win?

My parents were there. We briefly went to the WrestleMania party that’s held after the event. But to me, it’s the alone time. Fortunately and unfortunately I am way way way too deep about my job and performances, so the real celebration is the alone quiet time feeling accomplishment in the hotel. It’s a very quiet celebration. There’s no champagne, there’s no bubbly, there’s no jumping for joy and things like that. It’s very anti-climatic and it’s probably way too deep and way too unstable for wrestling, that’s for sure.

How did you handle the stresses that went along with your first reign? Was there ever a time went you thought you couldn’t handle it anymore?
Note: This question came after he told me about how difficult being champion was for him. That portion is not printed here, but can be found in the book.

There were plenty of times. But that all took place with me in the hotel room. Even that night, sitting there with the title in my hotel room, looking at it … taking the time to say “holy cow, you did it.” For me, those have always been the times—in my hotel room—where I got to feel the realness, and the joy and the sadness. The pressure always mounts when you walk in the locker room. But the real joy and emotional time (high and low) to me has always taken place long after I left the building, sitting there alone in my hotel room. Even now, the thrills are the performances … and now I get to share it with my family. But back when I had the title, all my moments of real times were back in my room.

What was it like to reclaim the title from Sid in your hometown at Royal Rumble 1997?

That one was fun from the hometown deal. I had a lot of friends from high school there. It was important to me because it was the first real dome show that we had done in a long time and it was important to me to have that place full … Of course it’s always fun to win the championship in your hometown, but I was more enamored doing it in front of my friends in a 60,000-seat dome.

Is it true that only you, Triple H and Vince McMahon knew about the Montreal Screwjob prior to the Survivor Series pay-per-view?

Somebody told me that Vince Russo wrote a book and said that they were talking about it Stamford a while before that. I didn’t know that at the time.

What was the day of the Montreal Screwjob like for you?

The most uncomfortable day ever … Bret and I had a lot of conversations … mending and breaking down, mending and breaking down. And that day we had another one. I never felt lower. We shook hands and I knew full well what was going on. At that time, I was angry so I could do it. I look back at it now and I feel like a scumbag.

Originally, you denied being involved in the screwjob, but later admitted to being involved all along. Why did you change your tune?

The TV show Confidential wanted to come down and interview me. And to be honest, it comes up in every interview I ever do. And this was after I had been saved … the change in my life, so I didn’t want to lie about it anymore. I made a call to the office trying to get a hold of Vince, but he wasn’t around. So I went ahead and admitted it in the interview and told them that they could air it or not air it, it was their choice, but I’m wasn’t going to lie about it anymore.

Have you talked to Bret since the Screwjob?
Note: This interview took place prior to Hart’s return to WWE.

Never seen him since. I was given his number a couple months ago. Everything I ever read is that he wouldn’t talk to me anyways, so I wasn’t sure what I should do.

There are rumors that he will be returning to WWE soon. So you may have a chance to talk to him again.

Life’s too short. If he wants me to take full blame for everything, I will. I have no axe to grind. I’ll say I’m sorry, extend my hand, and apologize. I’ve done it publicly. I guess if I was the one who was wronged, I would probably breathe death too. About him coming back, I said if he wants to do anything with me, tell him I’m on board. I mean it.

Growing up, which champion did you admire most?

Bob Backlund. You know, I was your very standard stereotypical wrestling fan, and he was the good guy. I liked that he was a wrestler. I liked that he was a good guy, but he did the piledriver.

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[Hunter Rider]

Thank you kindly.

It starts with the Bash at the Beach Match and goes through the the Halloween Havoc match, but the vids are no in order and Sting is in the mix with them at one point.

The Guardian Angel gimmick was a dud I think, the crappy looking t-shirt they made him wear hardly screamed out "Star!" and made him look like some old indie dude, but man Traylor threw as good a right hand as I've seen.

 

[Calavera]

if a guy burnt down your house wouldnt you want to kick his ass?

 

[Metallo]

Chris Jericho unedited

December 4, 2010 by Kevin Sullivan 3 Comments

Photo credit: WWE.com

While researching for the WWE Championship book, I was able to catch up with Chris Jericho via phone one Monday night. Much of what he told me wound up in the book; but here are portions of the interview that wound up on the cutting room floor. Enjoy:

You unofficially won the WWE Championship against Triple H on Raw. Unfortunately, you had it taken away immediately … and then you had to wait approximately a year and a half before officially winning the gold. During that time, did you ever question if a “real” reign would happen for you?

Not really. Things were a lot different back then. There was a certain level you had to get to before you could be in the title hunt. The fact that the company showed that confidence in me in April 2000, even if it was a gimmick for a show, lead me to believe I would win it again. I wasn’t sure when, I wasn’t sure how, but I believed I would win it again.

How did you celebrate the win?

I had to drive from San Diego back to Anaheim. I was the last person to leave the building and I got stuck in a traffic jam. There wasn’t really a chance to do a big celebration. It was one of those things where I got back to my room, sighed a relief, patted myself on the back and went to the next show. So it wasn’t really the confetti and champagne type of thing. It was more of a get your gear saddle up and get ready for the next show.

What was it like to square off against Rock and Stone Cold?

I’m all about match quality. I thought those matches against Rock and Austin were good, but having one of the best matches of the night against Shawn Michaels at WrestleMania means a lot more to me than winning the title that night because those matches were good, but I’m all about what was the best match of the show. I’m not sure if those matches were the best on the show; they were pretty good. I worked for about 35 minutes total, back to back. It was a great time in my career. It was like winning an Oscar for the first time and getting that pat on the back that meant more than actually being able to brag about being the champion. It was more the principle of it than it was the process.

Your reign came at a pivotal time in the company. Did you find it stressful?

No, it was different then because there was only one champion. Because of this there was no coasting. And we had some of the biggest stars ever in Rock, Austin, Triple H, Undertaker, Mick Foley, and Kurt Angle. Just because you were champion didn’t mean you were the top guy in the company. You really had to work your tail off to stay at that level. Just because I had the title around my waist didn’t really mean much. You still had to put your nose to the grindstone. And once you win the title, there’s a target on your back … Everybody wants to cut you down … There’s a lot of things that happen behind the scenes when you become champion.

After losing the title, you went on to win the Intercontinental Championship. Did you see that as a step back or a demotion in any way?

Any time you win a title it’s a good thing, but once you’ve been the WWE Champion, you don’t really want to go back to the IC title because it is a step down. It is more of a title for up and coming guys. But you still never want to downplay it. You’re still a champion, but being WWE Champion is like you are THE champion.

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Speaking of Y2J, I thought it would be funny to share a story from his MSG debut. I probably should’ve been fired that night … boy, how things would’ve changed if I got canned.

Anyway, it was shortly after Jericho’s TV debut in 1999. He wasn’t advertised to be at the Garden on this night, but was going to make a surprise appearance. This was back when the lights would go down in the arena during his entrance, then he would appear as if from nowhere doing his arms spread thingy.

So the lights went out as planned and the crowd started to buzz. No music was playing, so nobody in the crowd really knew what was going on … but they could tell something big was about to happen. With the lights out, the plan was for Y2J to sneak into the ring, then his music would hit and the lights would go on … unfortunately, that wasn’t what ended up happening (You know where this is going, right?).

I was working as a producer for WWE.com and standing at Gorilla Postition with our cameragirl when Jericho slyly made his way out from behind the curtain. At that moment, the girl (who wasn’t all that bright) grabbed me and said, “let’s follow him down the aisle with our camera and get a .com exclusive.” Naively, I said, “ok,” and grabbed our handheld mic to pick up crowd sound.
So there we are with Jericho sneaking down to the ring … back then we could get away with these things at house shows … not so much anymore (probably because of what happened next). About seven yards away from the ring, our cameragirl realizes she can’t see Jericho in her shot because it was so dark. She then decides to turn the camera light on and point it right at Y2J. All the way up to the ring, she had her light shining on Jericho. The whole arena saw it … we ruined the surprise.

Luckily, I realized this wasn’t going to end well, so I dropped the microphone and bolted back toward the locker room. I literally ran right through the curtain and past all the big wigs. Unfortunately for the cameragirl, she didn’t follow me, despite me telling her to do so. Instead, she just kept ruining the surprise. When she got back to the locker room, she was destroyed by certain unnamed, high-ranking WWE officials (Needless to say, she didn’t last too much longer).

The whole thing happened so fast that very few people actually noticed me fleeing from the scene (at least the important ones didn’t, which is all that matters). But because she was my responsibility at the time, I did receive a minor slap on the wrist. Amazingly, I went on to spend nine more years with WWE (sans a brief six-week hiatus … but that’s a whole other story).

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[Metallo]

Champs on champs

November 10, 2010 by Kevin Sullivan Leave a Comment

While writing the upcoming WWE Championship book, I had the honor of interviewing nearly every living former titleholder. Of course, each interview came with its own set of questions, but there was one query that I asked every last Superstar: Who do you think was the greatest WWE Champion of all time?

Believe it or not, every Superstar found this question nearly impossible to answer. But being the true professionals that they are, they all eventually offered up their opinions. As we get closer to the Nov. 23 release date, I’ll reveal many of their answers. Due to space restrictions, none of the below quotes made it into the book. Let’s consider them “web exclusives.” Enjoy:

Ric Flair: In terms of drawing money, it has to be Stone Cold or Hulk. But in terms of work rate, there’s about five guys… Hunter, Shawn , Undertaker, Cena, Dave Batista, Randy Orton, Edge… All those guys, they don’t have to, but if they were asked to wrestle an hour every night, they’d do it. And they carry that belt and prestige of that title in high regard, which is really important. People can see in your eyes, if you’re the champion, you’re the ****. If I was champion now they would really have a hard time living with me.

Bret Hart: I guess that would be me (after much thought) … Actually, I’m not sure who would be the greatest champion of all time, but I know of all the champions they ever had, none of them gave any more than I ever did in and out of the ring. To me it was a big honor that I took pretty serious and I think that people remember about me today. If there is any criticism about Bret Hart the wrestler, he’s the guy who took it too seriously. If that’s the only criticism I get, then I can take that. Yeah, I’m the guy who took it too seriously. I really had so much pride in being the champion and being the wrestler that I was. Maybe that’s what makes me stand out today.

You have young wrestlers like CM Punk and different guys wanting to be the champion that they remember me being. They want to be proud and they want it to mean something and they want people to understand that there’s a big honor there. You look back and you can say that I was always s a good champion in that way; I made you take pride in the belt. I can remember kissing the belt every time when I climbed up on the second rope in the beginning of the match and at the end of the match when I won. When I kissed that belt, it was my reminder that I was living a dream and that I had a responsibility to be the champion that I saw as a kid when I watched world champions work for my father. They always had class. I wanted to be a champion like them, like Bruno or Dory Funk or Harley Race. They had a certain pride and respect everywhere they went. I always tried to be that same champion for the fans, company and the wrestlers themselves.




Kevin Nash: Hulk Hogan (without hesitation). When he came back, I didn’t think anybody could be hotter than Steve and Rock at that point. We were in Chicago that night when we came back with the nWo and Rock went toe to toe with Terry. I remember thinking it would be 60/40, maybe 70/30 in favor of Rock. It was 90/10 Hogan. I said “Hulk’s Hulk.” That was the night I realized it.

As far as performers go, I think Shawn Michaels is the greatest. I’ve used this equation one hundred times: He is the Michael Jordan of sports-entertainment. Performance wise, Shawn Michaels is the greatest champion.

Shawn Michaels: Greatest is an overused word and I don’t know what defines greatest anymore.

You can pre-order the WWE Championship book here.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Growing up, which champion did you admire most?

Bob Backlund. You know, I was your very standard stereotypical wrestling fan, and he was the good guy. I liked that he was a wrestler. I liked that he was a good guy, but he did the piledriver.

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That doesn't align with what he has said in the past, I also wish they'd ask him about the Vader deal and how he kinda was the reason Sid got the belt in 96.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Champs on champs

November 10, 2010 by Kevin Sullivan Leave a Comment

While writing the upcoming WWE Championship book, I had the honor of interviewing nearly every living former titleholder. Of course, each interview came with its own set of questions, but there was one query that I asked every last Superstar: Who do you think was the greatest WWE Champion of all time?

Believe it or not, every Superstar found this question nearly impossible to answer. But being the true professionals that they are, they all eventually offered up their opinions. As we get closer to the Nov. 23 release date, I’ll reveal many of their answers. Due to space restrictions, none of the below quotes made it into the book. Let’s consider them “web exclusives.” Enjoy:

Ric Flair: In terms of drawing money, it has to be Stone Cold or Hulk. But in terms of work rate, there’s about five guys… Hunter, Shawn , Undertaker, Cena, Dave Batista, Randy Orton, Edge… All those guys, they don’t have to, but if they were asked to wrestle an hour every night, they’d do it. And they carry that belt and prestige of that title in high regard, which is really important. People can see in your eyes, if you’re the champion, you’re the ****. If I was champion now they would really have a hard time living with me.

Bret Hart: I guess that would be me (after much thought) … Actually, I’m not sure who would be the greatest champion of all time, but I know of all the champions they ever had, none of them gave any more than I ever did in and out of the ring. To me it was a big honor that I took pretty serious and I think that people remember about me today. If there is any criticism about Bret Hart the wrestler, he’s the guy who took it too seriously. If that’s the only criticism I get, then I can take that. Yeah, I’m the guy who took it too seriously. I really had so much pride in being the champion and being the wrestler that I was. Maybe that’s what makes me stand out today.

You have young wrestlers like CM Punk and different guys wanting to be the champion that they remember me being. They want to be proud and they want it to mean something and they want people to understand that there’s a big honor there. You look back and you can say that I was always s a good champion in that way; I made you take pride in the belt. I can remember kissing the belt every time when I climbed up on the second rope in the beginning of the match and at the end of the match when I won. When I kissed that belt, it was my reminder that I was living a dream and that I had a responsibility to be the champion that I saw as a kid when I watched world champions work for my father. They always had class. I wanted to be a champion like them, like Bruno or Dory Funk or Harley Race. They had a certain pride and respect everywhere they went. I always tried to be that same champion for the fans, company and the wrestlers themselves.




Kevin Nash: Hulk Hogan (without hesitation). When he came back, I didn’t think anybody could be hotter than Steve and Rock at that point. We were in Chicago that night when we came back with the nWo and Rock went toe to toe with Terry. I remember thinking it would be 60/40, maybe 70/30 in favor of Rock. It was 90/10 Hogan. I said “Hulk’s Hulk.” That was the night I realized it.

As far as performers go, I think Shawn Michaels is the greatest. I’ve used this equation one hundred times: He is the Michael Jordan of sports-entertainment. Performance wise, Shawn Michaels is the greatest champion.

Shawn Michaels: Greatest is an overused word and I don’t know what defines greatest anymore.

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Man I love Flair but he is a kiss ass at times!

Bret putting over..........Bret......there's a shocker lol.

I get Nash's point but there was a huge nostalgia factor there to be considered.

 

[Metallo]

That doesn't align with what he has said in the past, I also wish they'd ask him about the Vader deal and how he kinda was the reason Sid got the belt in 96.

Which WWE champion did he say in the past?

Anything about Vader might be in the book.

 

[Metallo]

Man I love Flair but he is a kiss ass at times!

Bret putting over..........Bret......there's a shocker lol.

I get Nash's point but there was a huge nostalgia factor there to be considered.

Yeah i just couldn't take half of what Flair said seriously. I can buy what he said about HHH and HBK but what he said about the others guys after them?

I also wish Bret had given another answer besides himself. Even if he had just said Bruno. I 'm a huge fan of the man but like you said he really patted himself on the back big time there.

 

[Metallo]

Big Show unedited

November 11, 2010 by Kevin Sullivan Leave a Comment



As many of you already know, space restrictions prevented me from including all of the interviews I did with the Superstars in my WWE Championship book (order now). Because of this, I’m publishing many of the quotes that weren’t used in the book right here. I hope you enjoy them. Here’s a few excerpts from my conversation with Big Show that were not used in the book:

Were you nervous entering WWE from WCW?

Big Show: Absolutely. When I came from WCW, I came from an organization where I was very well protected and I was very naïve. My first day as a WWE Superstar I was in New York at a toy convention. I saw my new merchandise, all the different products that WWE had and WCW never had. I took a tour of the headquarters in Stamford. Everyone in the office was not only an employee, but everyone was a fan. That was a big difference from WCW; you go to CNN and no one in the office knew who you were, let alone a fan. And then to come up and be a part of the locker room with guys who were so seasoned—not arrogantly seasoned, though. You know WCW had their guys who had worked hard before, but they were kind of in cruise control as far as their intensity level of putting on good shows and working hard to put out the best product. I got to WWE and it was a different level. Guys like Undertaker and Stone Cold went out and were tearing the joint down every night. There was a mater of pride with them. It wasn’t about the money or taking it easy, it was about putting on the best show possible.

One of the biggest differences was the level of competitive in the locker room. They were competitive and wanted to put on the best match and walk through the curtain and let everybody know, “hey, try to follow that if you can.” WCW was more of “let’s go out and have a good match, take care of me, brother; I’ll take care of you, brother …” That kind of stuff. It was different when I got up to WWE. You really had to have your stuff together. It was a shark tank. You really had to up your game and know what you were doing in the ring and be a solid contributor to the product or else you got left behind. It was very intimidating.

Did the WWE locker room welcome you right away?

Big Show: Yes and no. There were some guys that I knew there. But our locker room was very competitive. I was a young kid … A new star, so to speak. I was going to have to make a position for myself, they weren’t just going to welcome me in and give it to me. We were very competitive. We knew we had to work hard and knew that the person next to you was going to work just as hard, if not harder. When you’re new in a situation like that, you start at the bottom, basically. I didn’t have tenure. I didn’t put in horrible trips and food poisoning and pneumonia and all these different things that guys have worked through. In WCW, if you had a hangnail, you took two weeks off.

How did you celebrate your first WCW Championship win?

Big Show: When I won the WCW title the first time, I wore it through the airport because I was so damn green. Nobody told me that I didn’t have to let everybody know that there was a new champion, so I wore it in the airport like an idiot. Winning the WWE title was a very proud moment, but I was very insecure about it. I looked around at all the great Superstars at the time … I was like “my god, I don’t deserve this, I shouldn’t be carrying it.” I don’t know if every champion has that self doubt, but I did at the time. I knew there were guys in the locker room that were a lot better than me at a lot of things – media, promos … When I won the WWE title, the first thing I wanted to do was run home and hide in the house.

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[Metallo]

The Genius enlightens me on Savage’s reigns

November 22, 2010 by Kevin Sullivan 5 Comments



On the eve of the release of the WWE Championship book, I thought it would be appropriate to post excerpts from one of my favorite interviews during the book writing process–Lanny Poffo (aka, The Genius).
I called Poffo to get a brother’s point of view, as his brother is, of course, former two-time WWE Champion Randy “Macho Man” Savage. Poffo’s responses to my questions were very candid. Here are some quotes I didn’t use in the book:

Were you there at WrestleMania IV to celebrate with your brother?

I wasn’t any where near Atlantic City at the time, so I don’t know what was going on there. My mother, father and myself and my wife and daughter were all very thrilled for him. It was an intense evening.

I was there in 1971 when he as ignored in the Major League Baseball draft and I was there when he made up his mind that he was going to be at a free agent tryout in Busch Stadium in St. Louis and out of 300 free agents, he was the only one signed. He signed for no bonus and $500 a month. He supplemented his income by playing cards with the bonus babies. After five years, he got cut from every team he played for. He played for the St. Louis Cardinals, the Reds and the Chicago White Sox.

Then in 1975, he started over as a professional wrestler. Ten years later he made it to MSG. Two years after that he’s a world champion. That’s phenomenal. I’ve seen him overcome so much diversity; he’s a tremendous example to me as a younger brother. We may get disappointed, but we never get discouraged

Were you ever jealous of your brother’s success?

I speak at a lot of schools … I’m a public speaker. That’s the question that everybody asks me.

I could take the attitude to be jealous, but I would have a big hole I’m my liver right now because that’s no way to live. I also believe that God didn’t make a mistake when he made me. I’m very proud of my career and my accomplishments. At the age of 55, I consider myself healthy wealthy and free. I owe it all to wrestling. To be jealous of my brother would be ridiculous because my career would never have reached the heights that it did without him. He got me into WWE, I knew I would make it to the top spot.

One of the greatest moments of my career is when Randy Savage became Macho King Randy Savage and I wrote a poem for him. That’s the only time we were in the ring together. They kept us apart.

I believe there is no such thing as a jabroni in this business. We’re the ones who make you look good. And eventually my turn came too. I had a seven-year run and I’m not ashamed to talk about it.

How important was Elizabeth to Randy’s success?

He was going to be successful anyway because he was there three months before. Then she came and got over like brand new money. She made Randy look large and when you stand next to somebody who is diminutive, you look larger, which is something that Sensational Sherri could not do, she was a big woman. I believe Randy would have succeeded anyway. It was garnish that she was there. She became an amazing star and it’s sad to say that both of these valets are gone now. But Randy is 57 years old and he’s doing well now.

Did Randy have any apprehensions over the WrestleMania VIII storyline with Ric Flair?

[Randy and Elizabeth] put business ahead of everything. I imagine there were a couple of things they wouldn’t do, like pose nude in Playboy. They did draw the line at a few places. But they believed that the show comes first. Even if you don’t like the position that you have, you do the best you can with what you got.

Later in WCW, even after the divorce was public, since so many people were asking about Elizabeth, Randy brought her in as part of a storyline and turned her heel. No matter how they felt inside, they were never above doing things like that.

I thought the worst thing Randy did that I would have never done was let Jake Roberts’ snake bite him. He got a 103 fever and the snake died. Jake “The Snake” Roberts was the greatest talent to ever throw it all away. But he was different, unique special.

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[The Sage]

Samoa Joe Signs New Deal With TNA
Posted by Larry Csonka on 12.17.2010

Joe isn't going anywhere...

- Dixie Carter has announced via her Twitter page that TNA has signed Samoa Joe to a new deal. Word is that the deal is for 2-3 years.

http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/166781/Samoa-Joe-Signs-New-Deal-With-TNA.htm

 

[Project862006]

with no risk comes no reward Joe

 

[NDX]

Samoa Joe Signs New Deal With TNA
Posted by Larry Csonka on 12.17.2010

Joe isn't going anywhere...

- Dixie Carter has announced via her Twitter page that TNA has signed Samoa Joe to a new deal. Word is that the deal is for 2-3 years.

http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/166781/Samoa-Joe-Signs-New-Deal-With-TNA.htm

Boooooooooo!

Also, Madison Rayne burned down Tara's shop. To keep her in check. Can't have her bodyguard getting a big head about her.

 

[BlackLantern]

Boooooooooo!

Also, Madison Rayne burned down Tara's shop. To keep her in check. Can't have her bodyguard getting a big head about her.

did people not expect Joe to re-sign??

 

[NDX]

No, I knew he would. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

 

[BlackLantern]

oh ok.....did you want him to do something else?

 

[NDX]

Final Battle 2010 (ticket is already in my wallet):

ROH World Title Match
Roderick Strong defends vs. Davey Richards

The Final Battle At Final Battle- Fight Without Honor
Kevin Steen vs. El Generico
*If Generico loses he will unmask
**If Steen loses he will quit Ring of Honor

Six Man Tag Team Grudge Match
Jay, Mark, and Mike “Papa” Briscoe vs. The Kings of Wrestling and Shane Hagadorn

Special Attraction
Eddie Edwards vs. Sonjay Dutt

ROH Legends Collide
ROH World TV Champion “The Fallen Angel” Christopher Daniels vs. “The Notorious 187″ Homicide

Women of Honor- Tag Team Challenge Match
Daizee Haze and Awesome Kong vs. Sara Del Rey and Serena Deeb

Scientific Showdown
Colt Cabana vs. TJ Perkins


Tag Team Challenge Match
The All Night Express vs. Kyle O’Reilly and Adam Cole

Christ, Sonjay is replacing Omega against Edwards? ********. You're in NYC! Bring back Xavier! He was a former ****ing world champ!

 

[NDX]

Final Battle 2010 (ticket is already in my wallet):

ROH World Title Match
Roderick Strong defends vs. Davey Richards

The Final Battle At Final Battle- Fight Without Honor
Kevin Steen vs. El Generico
*If Generico loses he will unmask
**If Steen loses he will quit Ring of Honor

Six Man Tag Team Grudge Match
Jay, Mark, and Mike “Papa” Briscoe vs. The Kings of Wrestling and Shane Hagadorn

Special Attraction
Eddie Edwards vs. Sonjay Dutt

ROH Legends Collide
ROH World TV Champion “The Fallen Angel” Christopher Daniels vs. “The Notorious 187″ Homicide

Women of Honor- Tag Team Challenge Match
Daizee Haze and Awesome Kong vs. Sara Del Rey and Serena Deeb

Scientific Showdown
Colt Cabana vs. TJ Perkins


Tag Team Challenge Match
The All Night Express vs. Kyle O’Reilly and Adam Cole

Christ, Sonjay is replacing Omega against Edwards? ********. You're in NYC! Bring back Xavier! He was a former ****ing world champ!

 

[Project862006]

oh ok.....did you want him to do something else?

i just see how joe is being used in tna

should atleast give wwe a try

sure tna would take him back if it fails for him

 

[Heretic]

While I expected Joe to resign, I'm still disappointed. TNA has absolutely ruined him over the past few years. In fact, it's quite possible that he's so ruined that WWE wouldn't offer him a bag of chips to sign for 3 years.

 

[BlackLantern]

I agree Heretic, I really don't think the WWE would even want him at this point