Best Movie Effects?

[Motown Marvel]

lucio fulci's films had some pretty amazing gore effects, so did cannibal holocaust.

 

[dark_b]

the good thing about jurasic park is that the movie is very old but the effects dont look old. of course they make the CGI now better. this is obvious.but for an example if we look at king kong and than jurasic park. a lot of people are saying that they focused more on king kong. bull.....it. it is 10 years later. it should now be very easy to make those t-rex.
so yes ILM plus spielberg & CO. this is a dream team for action. thats why i think transformers will look extreme. i am not talking about what kind of action will we see. but they will make it look good.
we need spielberg and ILM for superman.

 

[Dave McFly]

Back To The Future!

Hells yeah!!

Remember in part II when Doc lands the Delorean on the street and pulls into Jennifer's driveway? before it passes that streetlamp it is the flying miniture comeplete with working lights. they put a small ramp near the pole for the Delorean to driver over and it is 100% seamless, no CGI there, just good old fashioned split screen photography.

 

[Erzengel]

How about I don't know the movie that kinda revolutionalized the industry and even created the studio that does the special effects for the movies today? Star Wars

 

[DorkyFresh]

Star Wars had the best movie effects for it's time (just like Jurassic Park) but Star Wars' effects have FAR been surpassed.

just because it revolutionized the industry (Star Wars, Jurassic Park) doesn't mean that it CURRENTLY has the best effects....

 

[Erzengel]

The thread title isn't specific. The thread started listed 2001: A Space Odyssey in his original post.

Gorilla on the Empire State Building, or the Gollum in LOTR doesn't surpass for me the image of a Star Destroyer going overhead.

 

[Downhere]

I think JP definitely still holds up well Special Effects wise, as does T2.

 

[Franklin Richards]

The Yoda puppet in Empire. Who knew that a sock could look so ALIVE! Best puppet EVER!!!

 

[November Rain]

the visuals in casshern are simply too much, absolutely fantastic

backdraft has the best pyroteknics (sp?)

the rest are debatable..

 

[DorkyFresh]

The thread title isn't specific.

exactly...that's why i don't understand why a lot of people say Jurassic Park when there have been movies with better effects since then. even though the thread isn't specific...it asks for 'best movie effects', not 'most revolutionary special effects movie'.

 

[dark_b]

Hells yeah!!





Remember in part II when Doc lands the Delorean on the street and pulls into Jennifer's driveway? before it passes that streetlamp it is the flying miniture comeplete with working lights. they put a small ramp near the pole for the Delorean to driver over and it is 100% seamless, no CGI there, just good old fashioned split screen photography.

so let me see if i get this right. when the car is on the right side of the streetlamp it is a miniature car then when it goes to the left then we see teh real car?

if this is true then holly****

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

JatA Skeletons
Attack on the first Deathstar
Battle of Hoth
J.P. T-Rex
Gollum
older Watto in AotC
Harry Potter Gryphon

honorable mention to Brad Pit'ts car accident in "Meet Joe Black".

 

[November Rain]

ah c'mon, they used loads of split screen shots in bttf 2, they're incredibly obvious to pick out...

 

[Erzengel]

JatA Skeletons
Attack on the first Deathstar
Battle of Hoth
J.P. T-Rex
Gollum
older Watto in AotC
Harry Potter Gryphon

honorable mention to Brad Pit'ts car accident in "Meet Joe Black".

I use to love watching those Saturday Afternoon Movies with Jason and the Argonauts and Sinbad. :heart:

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Yeah.
When I was little I didn't know what matte lines or animation are.
And it never occurred to me to wonder how they were doing it.
I thought things just looked "off" 'cause it was some kind of haunting Hollywood magic.

 

[Danny No-Shame]

The best effects ever:

Team America: World Police.

No, seriously folks:

King Kong (1933) - scared the **** out of everyone who saw it - it may look ropey now, but for it's time it was the shizzle.

Jason/Sinbad/Anything worked on by Harryhausen and his better imitators.

2001 - nuff said

Star Wars - obviously

Superman (1978) - we believed a man could fly

Alien - groundbreaking, convincing, terrifying (ok, apart from the muppet-in-the-chest bit, but hey, we can cut them a break)

Ghostbusters/Poltergeist - same team, same techniques, same impact.

An American Werewolf in London - The Most Talked about sequence in movie history in British schools.

Dragonslayer - Best Dragon in Movies Ever (until Reign of Fire at least)

Tron - just blew everyone away at the time... (still does me now)

Terminator - Bad Robot.

Back to the Future - the car and the hoverboard - wanted by schoolkids everywhere...

JP - CGI revolution (both killed and revived special effects as a selling point - now they can do anything, we're less impressed by the effect than it's actual effect)

LotR and Gollum - with cgi effects being so common these days, it takes something extra special to stand out. The attention to detail, the characterisation and the love put into Gollum and the trilogy as a whole does exactly that.

PotC2 - Davey Jones - further to the above, this raises the bar in displaying human emotions through a 'crafted' character even higher. Stan Winston must be quaking in his boots...

My no.1 of all time - Spider-man 1/2/3 - Look, up in the sky! It's SPIDER-MAN - just as he should be, just as we pictured him.

 

[Ghostrider84]

I really dislike CGI... except for when it's used iin situations that only CGI would work... such as LOTR... obviously they couldn't get 100,000 extras to do the orck armies....

I'm more of a old school fan... for instance, ALIENS...... love the puppet work... that is when FX took serious talent, patiences, and overall knowledge....

there was no reason the new Star Wars films couldn't have been filmed like they were 30 years ago.... I think the films would have been much better if they didn't show a CGi C3P0 or R2, or even CGI storm troopers.....

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Yeah, CGI R2D2 was an abomination, and obscenely pointless since a simple cylindrical trash can robot is one of the biggest things you DON'T need CGI for.

George is non-sane.

PLUS, EVERY Clone Trooper CG?
******ed.
I....don't even understand.

But there's other stuff that is a billion times cooler with CG.

Compare the static painting backdrops of something like Bespin to the insanely complex and LIVING/MOVING stuff like Coruscant.

And those giant fishes that chased them on Naboo were a trillion times cooler than the dumb-ass Rancor hand puppet...and the dumb ass Asteroid Worm hand puppet.

As lame as it can be at times...there is serious prejudice against CGI.

If you got into a time machine and took a clip of A.N.Y. of the giant CGI monsters from the prequels, and then showed it to a kid who had just seen Return of the Jedi, the kid's jaw would fall off and then his eyes would explode.

 

[Dave McFly]

so let me see if i get this right. when the car is on the right side of the streetlamp it is a miniature car then when it goes to the left then we see teh real car?

if this is true then holly****

Yup, pretty cool I have seen that scene a hundred times and it still blows my mind how they pulled that off

 

[DorkyFresh]

if you look closely, you'll see the reflection of the headlights on the road with the real delorean but no reflection on the road for the fake delorean, hehe.

 

[Ghostrider84]

Yeah, CGI R2D2 was an abomination, and obscenely pointless since a simple cylindrical trash can robot is one of the biggest things you DON'T need CGI for.

George is non-sane.

PLUS, EVERY Clone Trooper CG?
******ed.
I....don't even understand.

But there's other stuff that is a billion times cooler with CG.

Compare the static painting backdrops of something like Bespin to the insanely complex and LIVING/MOVING stuff like Coruscant.

And those giant fishes that chased them on Naboo were a trillion times cooler than the dumb-ass Rancor hand puppet...and the dumb ass Asteroid Worm hand puppet.

As lame as it can be at times...there is serious prejudice against CGI.

If you got into a time machine and took a clip of A.N.Y. of the giant CGI monsters from the prequels, and then showed it to a kid who had just seen Return of the Jedi, the kid's jaw would fall off and then his eyes would explode.

what did you perfer... teh Queen from Aliens... or the Queen from AVP?

 

[Dave McFly]

if you look closely, you'll see the reflection of the headlights on the road with the real delorean but no reflection on the road for the fake delorean, hehe.

Holy crap I never noticed that before, good call my friend *bows*

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

what did you perfer... teh Queen from Aliens... or the Queen from AVP?

I prefer the design of teh Queen from Aliens, and the AVP one because it can actually...move around without being fettered to a a giant crane that has to be hidden.

That's the huge drawback with practical effects, of the 80's especially.

Everything's a puppet, so it always has to be rooted in one place, which instantly takes you out of the illusion.

Like in Carpenter's The Thing (one of the greatest movies ever made), the dog is mutating....wow, gr0ss!....except, who cares?
It's just anchored there in a puddle of rubber in the center of the room.
Just....leave the room.

But if it was simultaneously mutating AND bouncing off the walls, leaping at a guy, slowly pacing around the room whimpering, on spindly legs, that then suddenly explode into tentacles and jump onto the ceiling?
Something like that? WAY cooler, way scarier and completely impossible to do with a rubber puppet.

Another problem is that it takes wires, servos, hydraulics, etc. to be the "muscles" under the rubber "skin"...and they can't move very organically.

Any rubber animatronic's skin is opaque, and just has to be painted to try and look like skin.

But with CGI, (again, WHEN it's done expertly, which is actually pretty rare), the skin can be transluscent, have veins subtly visible underneath, have an almost imperceptible layer of peach fuzz and pores and "natural" flaws on the skin, and instead of electronics and gears, there can be actual representations of muscles, and fat, stretched across bone, and the muscles can flex, and relax, and the skin can be pulled taught, or snap back into shape......just little things like breathing can add immensely to the illusion.

But with a life-size taun taun let's say, they can't build freaking lungs into the model, that pump, and it's flimsy rubber legs can't actually support Mark Hammil, so, you have no choice but to have static shots of a dead-faced tauntaun, that looks like a high-end doll/puppet, and then jerky, OBVIOUSLY doll-shots of an animated one.

fakefakefake.

 

[Ghostrider84]

the Queen from AVP was terrible..... plus, you can almost always tell when something is CGI... yeah yeah yeah, can't move around, but when CGi is standing still, you can tottaly tell it's fake.....

look at the alien from Alien... when that things still, or ready too attack... it still looks real to this day....

 

[DorkyFresh]

i prefer the queen from Aliens. the queen from AvP could move around with more motion, but it had TOO much motion. it moved TOO much and too quick...

...the queen is a big creature that's main purpose is to produce eggs. it's not supposed to run as fast as it did in AvP. i would like to see a mix between the AvP queen and the Aliens queen.