Big Brother 18

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None of that surprises me. James was the one who told Paulie that Day was coming after him, and then a week later seemed surprised when Paulie wanted Day out.

It's a sad state of affairs when Natalie is our best hope for a switchup. I love Natalie, no shade, but I just don't think she has the clout in this game to be able to orchestrate anything. Even her closest ally doesn't take her seriously.

At least this season dispelled the myth that James could've been a good player last season if it wasn't for Meg & co. "holding him back".
 
James pretty much holds his alliance back. It's a bit like with Jackie last season. She saw through Vanessa but she was held back by her alliance.

I'm kind of curious on what could've happened if Bronte (who is Nat's closest ally) stayed. Nat/Bronte/Bridgette actually had potential. Up until they decided to do Big Bachelor instead of Big Brother instead.
 
I'm so frustrated with Natalie's situation. She's one of the few who sees through Paulie and the house dynamics but she can't do anything about it. She sucks at competitions (although apparently she threw the last HOH comp because James told her to lie low) so she can't have power on her own and she's too dependent on James' opinions and he is so bad at this. I always get a glimmer of hope whenever I see her talk game with Michelle and Zakiyah but then any hope is gone when Zakiyah talks game one minute and is grinding against Paulie the next.

They are so frustrating.

Zakiyah is not a smart player. Despite showing some early potential, she has let Paulie manipulate her to no end. And now at this point, rather than lay low as she should, she is pushing back against Da'Vonne's eviction and trying to convince Paulie to axe his closest ally. Da'Vonne is a lost cause and she would do well to distance herself. But just as she is Paulie's puppet, she is equal part Da'Vonne's. Zakiyah, like Da'Vonne, is just oblivious to the rest of the house.

As for Michelle, she shows flashes of brilliance. She understands the game and seems to know where everyone in the house is, more than anyone else. She has proven to be strategically adept. She could play well if she wants to. And there are times when she does. Then something like last night happens.

Michelle's biggest problem is she is too big of a fan. As such, she is way too aware of the cameras and feed watchers. Michelle has been a feed junkie for years. She reads the blogs, she listens to the podcasts, she follows the show like no other. She is the only one in the house who is a real fan of the game. As such, she remembers the season that must not be named (BB15). She is terrified that if she makes a big move or pisses someone off, she will be despised. She is terrified that she will become Aaryn and Amanda, hated on the outside, relentlessly tormented on Twitter, and even possibly lose her job as a result of the negative blow back. She is also very worried about her personality. She is very sarcastic and likes to joke around. But every now and then she remembers the cameras and suddenly just completely shuts herself down. Last night was the situation coming to ahead. Her breakdown wasn't because she hurt Paul. Its because she was scared that suddenly everyone would see her as a temperamental, violent person and she would lose her job.

She isn't wrong to have these fears. Obviously, Aaryn and Amanda's situation is different due to the racism aspect, but she is right in how sensitive people can be and how things can get blown out of proportion. The eyebrow thing, for example. She was clearly joking. She said as much immediately afterward and Bridgette even took it as a joke. Yet Twitter ran with it and painted her as this evil, bullying *****.

I think her self-awareness is holding her game back a lot.

None of that surprises me. James was the one who told Paulie that Day was coming after him, and then a week later seemed surprised when Paulie wanted Day out.

It's a sad state of affairs when Natalie is our best hope for a switchup. I love Natalie, no shade, but I just don't think she has the clout in this game to be able to orchestrate anything. Even her closest ally doesn't take her seriously.

At least this season dispelled the myth that James could've been a good player last season if it wasn't for Meg & co. "holding him back".

The crazy part is, James has spent half the season bragging about how he is going to ask CBS to put him on Survivor and how he will dominate the game. The dude is delusional. I really hope Burnett and Probst put their foot down on that one. Hayden made sense (and played an amazing game...I'm sure he will be asked back to Survivor eventually and I hope he goes). Even Beast Mode Cowboy made some sense for Survivor. James makes none. He is Wu 2.0.
 
I agree, I think Michelle has finally broke down from holding back so much emotion.

Somebody better break up the Paul twins quick....
 
James pretty much holds his alliance back. It's a bit like with Jackie last season. She saw through Vanessa but she was held back by her alliance.

I'm kind of curious on what could've happened if Bronte (who is Nat's closest ally) stayed. Nat/Bronte/Bridgette actually had potential. Up until they decided to do Big Bachelor instead of Big Brother instead.

I am more curious what would've happened if Da'Vonne pulled her head out of her own ass and saw the value of working with Frank and Tiffany. The tipping point of this season, when Paulie really took control, was when Tiffany was evicted. If Da'Vonne were able to work with them, she could've formed a counter-alliance. Yet she had this weird fixation on Tiffany due to her sister and this fixation on Frank due to him making a joke one day. Da'Vonne is her own worst enemy. She cannot get past her own dislike of people in order to use them to get further. Yet she is oblivious to this, thinks no one sees what she is doing (even when they call her out), and is convinced everyone is wrapped around her finger.

I think it was Rob Cesternino, in his podcast, who described it well. Da'Vonne would be a good player if she stopped thinking that she is a great player. But she is convinced of her own infallibility and therefore gets these weird fixations on certain players who do nothing more than look at her the wrong way and she becomes set on seeing that player out. As such, she goes to extreme lengths to make it happen, often at the expense of her own game, by trying to use misinformation to create conflict between Player A and Player B to play them against each other with her in the middle.

Her plans seldom work (she had nothing to do with any evictions), simply because misinformation does not work on Big Brother. It is nearly impossible to get away with that in Big Brother. These people are trapped in close quarters 24-7, with an eviction only happening once every seven days, and none of them are particularly smart. Misinformation will almost always be exposed on Big Brother. It works on Survivor because of the shorter eviction period (3 days rather than 7), the fact that anyone can be evicted (without nomination or Veto) and the fact that there are other distractions (maintaining camp, hunger/finding food, exploring nature, challenges, searching for immunity idols, rewards, etc). As such, it always comes back on her. Yet she continues to do it. She got in trouble with Frank by stoking fires between him and Tiffany. Then she did it again with Nicole and Frank, telling lies to both and then getting exposed. Then she did again with James and the couples alliance. It really just shatters people's trust in her. She overplays her hand every time. As such, she may have tanked Frank and Tiffany's games, but in doing so, she also tanked her own. She is the perfect example of someone cutting off her nose to spite her face. And she is completely and totally oblivious to this.

A good Big Brother player does not employ direct misinformation because that won't work. Instead they realize that conflict evolves naturally in the house (as it would when you have 16 young people living together, 24/7 for 3 months with no access to the outside world) and then uses that natural conflict to his or her advantage (think Derrick). A good Big Brother game is much more passive than a good Survivor game. Da'Vonne does not appreciate that fact. It is much more about using circumstance to your advantage than creating the advantageous circumstance (which is a necessity in Survivor because it is a shorter game).

That isn't to say you should do nothing but float (the Andy Herrin strategy), but you have to be a bit more coy. You cannot create conflicts and put yourself at the center of said conflicts. That is what Da'Vonne does and why it fails.

The one exception, of course, is Will. But Will is like Richard Hatch. His strategy would not work in the modern game. It worked solely on the merit of him being the first to do it.
 
I agree, I think Michelle has finally broke down from holding back so much emotion.

Somebody better break up the Paul twins quick....

I didn't know you were a Big Brother fan, Kel!

I think if the Paul twins are going to be broken up, it will be on double eviction night. That seems to be the only time this particular group feels comfortable making the big moves. That said, I don't see anyone who will do it.

- Z, Michelle, and Natalie are non-entities.

- Victor is too in with the other guys.

- James believes he is running the house and is playing this masterful, non-aggressive game, so his big move seems to be far off.

Corey and Nicole are the only ones who could conceivably make that move and I'm not quite sure why they would. They think they are in a solid final three alliance with Paulie. I don't think either are perceptive enough to realize they've been ousted in favor of Victor and Paul. If anyone is going to get the boot on a double eviction night, I wouldn't be surprised if it was one of them.
 
I didn't know you were a Big Brother fan, Kel!

I think if the Paul twins are going to be broken up, it will be on double eviction night. That seems to be the only time this particular group feels comfortable making the big moves. That said, I don't see anyone who will do it.

- Z, Michelle, and Natalie are non-entities.

- Victor is too in with the other guys.

- James believes he is running the house and is playing this masterful, non-aggressive game, so his big move seems to be far off.

Corey and Nicole are the only ones who could conceivably make that move and I'm not quite sure why they would. They think they are in a solid final three alliance with Paulie. I don't think either are perceptive enough to realize they've been ousted in favor of Victor and Paul. If anyone is going to get the boot on a double eviction night, I wouldn't be surprised if it was one of them.

I had time this summer to watch it, usually I don't and its hard binging it because too many people I know watch it and end up spoiling it for me. :csad:
 
If Paulie takes Paul to the end with him it would serve him right to lose. :cmad:

While I would like it if Da'vonne were to win the ticket, I suspect that she'd just end up on the block the next week and be voted out. I can't see how this season will end well, TBH. I will derive pleasure from watching the majority alliance devour one another, however.
 
If Paulie takes Paul to the end with him it would serve him right to lose. :cmad:

While I would like it if Da'vonne were to win the ticket, I suspect that she'd just end up on the block the next week and be voted out. I can't see how this season will end well, TBH. I will derive pleasure from watching the majority alliance devour one another, however.

Its hard to pick someone who would be a satisfying winner this season. Even Victor, who is one of the more likeable players, doesn't deserve it for one reason: he was voted out. I am a firm believer that if you are voted out, you have no place winning, even if some stupid twist brings you back.

Sadly, its reaching the point where Natalie or Bridgette winning is about as satisfying end to the season as we can hope for.

Bridgette actually wouldn't be bad in a "**** Paulie" sort of way as he has been talking a lot about bringing her to the final 3 as a goat. It would be funny to see him drag her along, her win the final HOH and then beat him.
 
Finally watching yesterdays BB and jeez Paulie is acting like a grade A. JERK! When will the girls learn that when you showmance and it goes wrong, they get targeted and punished.
 
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She's such a disaster.
 
At least she was big enough to admit that her and Frank going at each other probably wasn't the best move on her part....
 
She sure did slay, didn't she Havok? Slayed her way right out of the house with her ****** game play. :lmao:

Thank god. There has not been such an obnoxious HG since Frankie Grande.
 
At least she was big enough to admit that her and Frank going at each other probably wasn't the best move on her part....

Kinda. I'm surprised the ChenBot gave her so many chances to revise her answer:

Julie: Should you maybe not have targeted Tiffany and Frank?

Da'Vonne: No, it was the right move.

Julie: Well, but maybe not so narrowly?

Da'Vonne: Nope, right move.

Julie: Should you have maybe worked with Frank?

Da'Vonne: Maybe.

The diary room is going to be so boring now.

The Diary Room is boring anyway. It is a bunch of people screaming into the camera lines that the producers feed them. Say what you will about Frank, I respect that he got so few DR sessions this season (except where story necessitated) because he outright refused to read the canned lines (he was caught on the feeds talking about it).

That said, I love how she "knew she was going" yet she was dressed for the HOH competition, packed very few things today, and has been on the feeds talking like she is staying non-stop. But Sherlock Da'Vonne really intuitively sensed it and knew (yet she did nothing to prevent it). :whatever:
 
Because I know how much the Da'Vonne fans love their pictures and GIFs, here is the best Da'Vonne picture yet:

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Seriously Michelle. Get it together

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How fitting

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Agreed. Anyways, hoping for a Zakiyah or Victor win for HoH. If not them, I could go for James
 
Victor is the new HOH. It was between him and Natalie. So I guess another Paulie HOH week and bye bye Natalie?
 
The trolls were so odd. Especially considering the moment Michelle fell off she vomited. The trolls waited until she was done vomiting and then beat her. Jeez...
 
Looking like noms will be:

Michelle and Zakiyah

House is split on who the target is. Paulie wants Big Meech gone. James is pushing for Z. If James ends up getting the two vote neutralizer care package, it could be used to conceivably save Big Meech, if played right (but keep in mind...James will be the one yielding it). If that's the case, this could lead to a bit of a power shift, especially with double eviction looming. These HGs have indicated that they are waiting on Double Eviction to make a move. Time to see if that is all talk or if Paulie will just run the table.
 
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