Biggest musical sell-out

[Abaddon]

Milli Vanilli completely sold out when they started doing their own singing.

 

[xcan28]

Biggest musical sell out goes to the radio. The disk jockeys. You know why? Because pretty much the entire musical industry (with a few exceptions) have gone straight into the ****ter. And there's no one to blame but the guys that run that radio and the way they accept payola from the record companies. We're sadly living in an era where the radio doesn't play what you want to hear, they play what they want YOU to hear.

Iamhere...wish I could agree... But every youth generation goes through a stage and currently hip hop is looked at as taboo so it is cool. Ma and Pa suburban don't want their kids speaking like they have learned English for the first time and naturally..the youth generally like to rebel.

Fortunately I was raised in the mod - grunge era so all I needed was my hair to cover my eyes

But currently..the musical industry (payola or not) is dictated by the wants (airwave ratings) of the kids.

 

[Tsunulia]

Milli Vanilli completely sold out when they started doing their own singing.

So did David Lee Roth when he left Van Halen

 

[xcan28]

lets define sell out by the way: selling out is when a band comprimises their musical quality and integrity in an attempt to make more money.

Easy Motown...almost But in short the "quality" can't be defined. Integrity can. The essence of who we are...and if someone sells that for $$$..well they have lost that quality.

Can I get a Fergie burger here????

 

[xcan28]

Milli Vanilli completely sold out when they started doing their own singing.

Milli Vanilli were the greatest innovators of the modern musical era!!! See Paris Hilton if you have any questions

 

[BeserkerHilf]

lets define sell out by the way: selling out is when a band comprimises their musical quality and integrity in an attempt to make more money.

i'll say it again because it's the perfect example: jewel


from "Who will save your soul?" to "intuition"

bull****

 

[Motown Marvel]

i'll say it again because it's the perfect example: jewel


from "Who will save your soul?" to "intuition"

bull****

i dont know the second song, or the circumstances of how she went from song A to song B....

but, just because a band makes a great album/song...then makes a s#!tty album/song, or they were once a good band now they suck, doesnt mean they sold out....even if at some point inbetween they signed to a major label and garnered much fame and fortune. some times musicians just fail. sometimes, the pressure of now being on a major label and having a worldwide fabase causes the musician to try too hard, which results in failure. but then again, maybe jewel did sell out and tried make her music more 'commercial' and 'radio friendly', or whatever....i dunno....

 

[imdaly]

A good reverse-sellout would be Mandy Moore.

She started like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWoMbQ2PzI4

And then went to do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvopG_rwib0

 

[Clerk]

lets define sell out by the way: selling out is when a band comprimises their musical quality and integrity in an attempt to make more money.

Yeah, I mean artists are allowed to change their styles. RHCP and U2 are in their middle ages now, I don't think stuff like Mothers Milk would really fit their current personas. But to stay on topic, I am going to mention my favorite band of all time.

The Offspring.

They are one of the few bands that I can listen to each album without skipping a song (ok Pretty Fly and Want You Bad aside), but as soon as they left the independant Epitaph for major label Columbia, the "Beat all the n***ers"^ grunge-punk shifted to "I want you bad" pop-punk. Sure they could've been changing with the times, but it's probably unlikely.

Still I love em.

^Lyrics from LAPD

 

[Mr. Walters]

I don't understand what this whole sellout business is all about. A band comes along and thier stuff is largley disliked by the general public, then they release an album that appeals to a wide varitey of people, in other words- they finally get good- and everyone says they sold out. The only way it seems to not sell out is to be band with no listeners, which makes no sense to me at all.

 

[imdaly]

i dont know the second song, or the circumstances of how she went from song A to song B....

but, just because a band makes a great album/song...then makes a s#!tty album/song, or they were once a good band now they suck, doesnt mean they sold out....even if at some point inbetween they signed to a major label and garnered much fame and fortune. some times musicians just fail. sometimes, the pressure of now being on a major label and having a worldwide fabase causes the musician to try too hard, which results in failure. but then again, maybe jewel did sell out and tried make her music more 'commercial' and 'radio friendly', or whatever....i dunno....

Nonono He's definitely right. Check out the videos to the two songs and you'll see...

"Who Will Save Your Soul"

"Intuition"

 

[xcan28]

A good reverse-sellout would be Mandy Moore.

She started like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWoMbQ2PzI4

And then went to do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvopG_rwib0

Dang you and your child porn!! OK... let's limit this to a OVER 20 crowd from penetration (in the music scene) to now

 

[DOG LIPS]

Metallica.


J/K


Vanilla Ice.

 

[imdaly]

I don't understand what this whole sellout business is all about. A band comes along and thier stuff is largley disliked by the general public, then they release an album that appeals to a wide varitey of people, in other words- they finally get good- and everyone says they sold out. The only way it seems to not sell out is to be band with no listeners, which makes no sense to me at all.

It's when you know a band/artist does music that even THEY aren't really into, just to sell more records, when it's bad. It's just fake. The music a person does should define the person inside. It's no different than poetry, IMO. When a person is expressing a persona that is not their own, it's really a shame. It's not like working at McDonalds where you don't have to give a crap about what you do. Music is an expression of the self.

 

[Mr. Walters]

It's when you know a band/artist does music that even THEY aren't really into, just to sell more records, when it's bad. It's just fake. The music a person does should define the person inside. It's no different than poetry, IMO. When a person is expressing a persona that is not their own, it's really a shame. It's not like working at McDonalds where you don't have to give a crap about what you do. Music is an expression of the self.

I disagree. Music is entertainment. Entertainers are here to enterain us, not themselves. Same thing goes for movies. A director might make a movie that he loves, but if no one else loves it what good is it?

 

[xcan28]

A band comes along and thier stuff is largley disliked by the general public, then they release an album that appeals to a wide varitey of people, in other words- they finally get good- and everyone says they sold out. .

If your definition of success = having people love you, you will find your "success".

Mind you that isn't what everyone is about.

What's the term for "success" today?? "Cheddar"??? No offence to you...but rats chase cheddar, enjoy your meal

 

[Tsunulia]

I disagree. Music is entertainment. Entertainers are here to enterain us, not themselves. Same thing goes for movies. A director might make a movie that he loves, but if no one else loves it what good is it?

True that it is entertainment, but what good is it to try to entertain with insincere drivel?

 

[imdaly]

Dang you and your child porn!! OK... let's limit this to a OVER 20 crowd from penetration (in the music scene) to now

mwahahaha. She's my age, so I don't have to feel bad about having fond memories of watching her "Candy" video over...and over...and over again when it first came out.

Mmm that hip swivel she did at 2:52 always got to me

...Oh, and don't forget the straw-suck at 2:12 hehe

 

[Mr. Walters]

True that it is entertainment, but what good is it to try to entertain with insincere drivel?

I don't know. But if there is a large audience out there for it, then who am I to get mad at certain bands. The way I see it, any band has the right to branch out and try new things. Imagine if the Beatles had satyed doing that teeney bopper "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" stuff. I don't think they would have been as popular and certianly would not have carved such a deep rut for themselves in music history.

 

[Mr. Walters]

If your definition of success = having people love you, you will find your "success".

Mind you that isn't what everyone is about.

What's the term for "success" today?? "Cheddar"??? No offence to you...but rats chase cheddar, enjoy your meal

No offense to you, but you didn't offend me because I am not sure what you are trying to say.

 

[imdaly]

I disagree. Music is entertainment. Entertainers are here to enterain us, not themselves. Same thing goes for movies. A director might make a movie that he loves, but if no one else loves it what good is it?

Who says people have to love what you're doing? There are plenty of entertainers out there that I don't give a damn about. Their work just isn't my thing. BUT at least it's reassuring when I know that they are doing what their hearts are telling them to do.

Be true to yourself and others before worrying about your image and being "liked".

Just ask Vanilla Ice what it's like to do music that you don't believe in, just to make a few extra bucks...

 

[xcan28]

No offense to you, but you didn't offend me because I am not sure what you are trying to say.

Your defintion of "they finally get good" means they appeal to a wide variety of people.

Layman's terms....That attitude = "Cheddar" = your lack of self understanding in what you like.

I tried to break it down...I apologize if I can't any more

Hope you grow into somone who appreciates what you enjoy

 

[Mr. Walters]

Who says people have to love what you're doing? There are plenty of entertainers out there that I don't give a damn about. Their work just isn't my thing. BUT at least it's reassuring when I know that they are doing what their hearts are telling them to do.

Be true to yourself and others before worrying about your image and being "liked".

Just ask Vanilla Ice what it's like to do music that you don't believe in, just to make a few extra bucks...

I hear what you are saying. I guess I didn't realize so many of these so called "sell out bands" didn't believe in their own music.

But people do have to love what you're doing if you intend to make money from it. If you are happy being an underground garage band playing gis on the weekends then that is very commendible, but if you want to play music and pay the bills, then enough people will have to like your music.

 

[Mr. Walters]

Your defintion of "they finally get good" means they appeal to a wide variety of people.

Layman's terms....That attitude = "Cheddar" = your lack of self understanding in what you like.

I tried to break it down...I apologize if I can't any more

Hope you grow into somone who appreciates what you enjoy

I do appreciate what I enjoy, and sorry that I didn't know the definition of cheddar. Last I checked it was a type of cheese.

Why do I get the impression that something I said somewhere on here offended you?

 

[NOFX]

Green Day and Kiss are interesting choices...

Didn't Green Day's roots begin with "Green Day"??

What what do u mean