Biggest musical sell-out

[Slipknot]

why? care to explain?

He's kidding... atleast I'm pretty sure he is...

 

[JLBats]

What about The Beach Boys? WTF? Pet Sounds? Boring and unoriginal songs about coming of age and other genuinely relevant topics? Where are all the surfing songs? Whaaaaaaa!

Kraftwerk used to be good when no one knew about them, now they SUCK.

 

[PLAS]

Biggest musical sell-out =

we give new meaning to the term sell out

 

[Motown Marvel]

Rage Against The Machine!
Bad Religion
Dixie Chicks
Pearl Jam
etc....

dude, RATM broke up YEARS ago! their songs havent been on any sort of high rotation or even medium rotation on any radio station for years. so their lack of radio play has nothing to do with their political themes.

bad religion: when was the last time they had any sort of popular radio play? their music not being on the radio has nothing to do with political themes.

dixi chicks: do you really need to bring the f**king dixie chicks into this? c'mon...

pearl jam: never listened to much pearl jam, so cant say much about it....

 

[jaguarr]

dude, RATM broke up YEARS ago! their songs havent been on any sort of high rotation or even medium rotation on any radio station for years. so their lack of radio play has nothing to do with their political themes.

bad religion: when was the last time they had any sort of popular radio play? their music not being on the radio has nothing to do with political themes.

dixi chicks: do you really need to bring the f**king dixie chicks into this? c'mon...

pearl jam: never listened to much pearl jam, so cant say much about it....

U2 doesn't exactly shy away from political issues. Neither does Madonna. Or many other artists. Green Day never had a monopoly on poltically charged music.

jag

 

[xcan28]

PLAS my dear...

All I can say is that if you cannot understand why someone would consider the Black Eyed Peas being a sell-out...then you really have no knowledge on what a sell-out is. Again, the term "sell-out" is up for debate, but I think the room is pretty clear and generally agreeing on the meaning...

Either way, I must conclude this love letter. It has been my pleasure getting to know you, but sadly our time has come.

Big hug okay???

xcan28

 

[PLAS]

PLAS my dear...

All I can say is that if you cannot understand why someone would consider the Black Eyed Peas being a sell-out...then you really have no knowledge on what a sell-out is. Again, the term "sell-out" is up for debate, but I think the room is pretty clear and generally agreeing on the meaning...

Either way, I must conclude this love letter. It has been my pleasure getting to know you, but sadly our time has come.

Big hug okay???

xcan28

...and you are?

 

[TRUE]

Black Eye Peas were alright whrn they first came out. Now there pop and sumthing else i cant express at this site.

 

[Space Moose]

Josie and the Pussycats.

Damn those subliminal messages...!

 

[JLBats]

I actually could buy Radiohead as sell-outs. Allow me to explain.

On OK Computer, Radiohead literally rage against the machine, deriding the replacement of humans and emotions with machinery. Then, with Kid A, they exchanged guitars for computer clicks and synths. Kid A represented Radiohead denying everything their last album stood for and embracing everything they hated. Ultimately, the only thing in the world whispering "OK computer" is Thom Yorke, as he exchanges the beauty and complexity of their past for the soulless 1s and 0s of their future. No Surprises there.

 

[Man-Thing]

I think 99.999999999999% of all people who throw the word sell-out around are sad pathetic creatures who want to live the life of rockstar through their hero "rock star". I don't really give a crap if someone makes something to make some dough, cause in the end that's what it's all about, and what it should be about.

 

[Truthteller]

Yeah. I basically agree with the Man-Thing. Why would you condem someone for trying to make a living?

Folks should be more worried about their own self condition rather than tearing someone else down.

 

[Venom Drool]

RHCP evolved into something better and still true to their older style.. thats all

 

[Speedball]

U2 is my favorite band ever, and they always will be.
How are they sellouts?
I picked P. Diddy or whatever stupid name he goes by.

 

[Venom Drool]

U2 sucks..

heheh

 

[Man-Thing]

Venom sucks. heheh

BEYOTCH!

 

[Venom Drool]

haha



no

 

[Incrediblejeff]

Outkast should really be on that list

But I kinda respect the Black Eyed Peas for selling out

How did Oukast sellout?

 

[PLAS]

I actually could buy Radiohead as sell-outs. Allow me to explain.

On OK Computer, Radiohead literally rage against the machine, deriding the replacement of humans and emotions with machinery. Then, with Kid A, they exchanged guitars for computer clicks and synths. Kid A represented Radiohead denying everything their last album stood for and embracing everything they hated. Ultimately, the only thing in the world whispering "OK computer" is Thom Yorke, as he exchanges the beauty and complexity of their past for the soulless 1s and 0s of their future. No Surprises there.

although the analysis is right, there's some factual information that's a little bit off

nobody in Radiohead claimed ever to hate electronic music, they are all fans of a lot of experimental electronic bands, their decision to gear towards a more electronic feel was taken as a way of showing their version of what had become by then a very mainstream genre by bringing it back to its escence

if you think there are no guitars in Kid A, check again, it's filled with guitars, they're only not as obvious as before

you forgot to mention Amnesiac, which is kinda like the continuation/companion of Kid A. talking about one without mentioning the relationship and interaction with the other shows very little knowledge and understanding of the massive piece of work both albums comprise, like two different views of the same event, even when the narration, point of view, apporach and intent are totally oposite, it's basically the same thing being adressed

Hail To The Thief, their latest album was everything BUT commercial... the band did use their status as "only band that matters" prior to the release of the album, specially by the way of press releases and interviews where they announced HTTT as being their "happy, pop album", but what was everybody's surprise when they pulled off a very dense album, filled with elements from all their career: jangly guitars, surprising crescendos, random electronic elements, hermetic lyrics which turn more cryptic and disturbing this time, hummable melodies and complicated and interesting arrengements

I still really don't see how they sacraficed their integrity, specially when they have been doing specially what they have wanted to

a friend of mine has an interesting theory about Radiohead's music: it's all because of Tom Yorke's lazy eye, all that rage, vile, angst, akwardness and despair stems from that evil, lazy eye of his

 

[Ronny Shade]

How did Oukast sellout?

They started making annoyingly pop music and made a bunch of money and now Andre thinks he's Prince.

That's called selling out in my book.

 

[PLAS]

How did Oukast sellout?

many people think that just because you sold several millions you are selling out, even when I don't really like Outkast, I have to admit that their last album was an excellent album, any way you look at it: great songs, intelligent arrengements and a very catchy attitude pulling it all together

there's a huge difference between selling out and making great music

 

[jaguarr]

I think 99.999999999999% of all people who throw the word sell-out around are sad pathetic creatures who want to live the life of rockstar through their hero "rock star". I don't really give a crap if someone makes something to make some dough, cause in the end that's what it's all about, and what it should be about.

So, as a capitalist pig-dog I agree that it's all about the money. However, as a musician, writer, painter and photographer, I disagree with you, because when it comes to my artistic expression, the creativity and that entire process are all that matter to me. I do it for myself in order to fulfill artistic desires and visions and a deep-seated craving to realize those through their full expression. I've sold some work and was happy about that, no doubt, but I didn't set about creating something that I calculated would be something someone would pay me for, completely throwing out my own artistic needs in the process.

Now, I don't make a living solely off of my artistic endeavors. But if I did, I would want to do it on my terms and in a way that satiated my creative needs first and foremost.

jag

 

[PLAS]

exactly, besides... what's wrong about making a living out of the things you love?

 

[Ronny Shade]

Musicians aren't supposed to make money. They're supposed to suffer. Good music only comes from pain.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Ronny is a huge musical sell-out.