Bill Maher snapped last night

[Darthphere]

meh, i just rolled my eyes. i've seen enough of his show to know he's an arrogant ass anyway, so it didn't surprise me to see him act like that, but it was pretty obvious he was playing to the cameras.

And that's a problem why again?

 

[Memphis Slim]

yeah, and he said something like, "feel free to kick his ass" when they escorted the first guy out. oooohhh, he's such tough guy.

does anyone know what those people were yelling? is there a transcript of the event?

Mahr is a nut.

 

[bunk]

I don't think it really bothered him until he was interrupted for like the fourth time. It's a live show and he's got one guest Mathews, being yelled at and a congresswoman sitting there waiting like an idiot. I'd probably lose it too. He was probably more pissed at the security than the protesters anyway.

 

[Shifty]

I don't think it really bothered him until he was interrupted for like the fourth time. It's a live show and he's got one guest Mathews, being yelled at and a congresswoman sitting there waiting like an idiot. I'd probably lose it too. He was probably more pissed at the security than the protesters anyway.

He's been getting plenty of mail from the 9/11 conspirators who wanted him to do a show on the conspiracies, since Maher doesn't care for Bush and "Bush was behind 9/11!" Well Maher doesn't believe Bush was behind 9/11. "What a nut!" So a few weeks ago he told them on his show stop sending me mail about doing a show and start being medicated.

Its the same thing if he was doing standup, if a few people were interrupting and yelling random 9/11 crap they would be kicked out too.

 

[sinewave]

And that's a problem why again?

what exactly are you arguing about? because i formed an opinion of the event that differed from your own? you're a weird-o.

Mahr is a nut.

that's not what i'm saying, but then again, you don't like his politics, so obviously everything he does and says is wrong anyway.

 

[sinewave]

He's been getting plenty of mail from the 9/11 conspirators who wanted him to do a show on the conspiracies, since Maher doesn't care for Bush and "Bush was behind 9/11!" Well Maher doesn't believe Bush was behind 9/11. "What a nut!" So a few weeks ago he told them on his show stop sending me mail about doing a show and start being medicated.

Its the same thing if he was doing standup, if a few people were interrupting and yelling random 9/11 crap they would be kicked out too.

thanks for the background on this. i hadn't heard anything about that.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

Oh please. Stop thinking everything I think of 9/11 conspiracy theorists is just about your post. This is what I've been told by them before.

No, again, you are incorrect.
I am specifically speaking of your reaction to my post.
you responded "" and proceeded to defend this post with something about victims and air quality ( none of which are spoken about in my original response) so, your knee jerk response was just that.
sorry.

Yes, the designer was hailed as a genius. But everyone I know connected to the fire department said it was terribly constructed. "The world's biggest chimney," they referred to it as back in the 1970s because of all the fire code violoatons. I heard that after the '93 bombing, when they said it was lucky it hadn't come down then. I knew people who worked there and said the fire alarms went off so often that they usually ignored them.

again.
you happen to be wrong.
it wasn't "terribly constructed" by any sense.
so please stop.
everything done in the building was meeting codes of the time, much like any old building will come into violation when codes changes, most of the code violations were grandfathered in, or addressed, in fact, the Gyp Board core of the building is pretty standard stuff for the time it was built.
seriously. you're wrong about this, let's not try and deviate from that.

Yes, it was terribly convenient for something like this to happen after Bush got into office. I remember watching Bush Sr on TV the day after it happened, seeing the look on his face, and thinking..."He knew." I saw Clinton on TV a few days later and saw the same look. They knew this was going to happen.

or worse, they were instrumental in it happening.

I remember Christie Whitman telling everyone the air was fine. We knew it wasn't fine. I worked in midtown, at least 2 miles away, and we could smell the fumes from the WTC. It wasn't fine. We knew they were lying.

I don't remember saying anything about this.

I'm not saying it's not worth looking into...I've read the theories. Some are interesting, but most, from my point of view, having been there, I don't buy them. I don't believe a missle hit the Pentagon because my friend saw the plane. I don't have patience for anyone who tells me I didn't see dust on a certain street because some website told them there wasn't.

I don't remember saying anything about Missiles, in fact, I addressed that in my reply to you.
so why are you telling me again about this?
I don't believe a missile hit the WTC or the pentagon.
it's the problem with people, they can't fathom the terrible middle ground.
planes filled with citizens were used by madmen, sure.
who guided the hands of these madmen?
is it so unfeasible to think that there's a vast conspiracy to open doors and give certain people influence?

yeah, I don't think so.

You could consider that people have actually read these theories and just don't buy it.

but, then, you didn't really know what the theory I was putting forth was did you?
in the future please listen/read to something before dismissing it.
I think you'll find that useful.

 

[bell110]

We have arrested several "U.S. citizens over the last 6 years that were planning attacks on our soil in the name of Allah. Americans......traitors.

If you are questionable, you should observed. You're doing nothing wrong, you got nothing to worry about.

That why we have due process, so American citizens wouldn't be arrested and put in a hole for the rest of their lives. If you think, "Well, they're traitors and terrorist, they don't deserve due process" it defeats the purpose of having due process.

 

[Fanticon]

if it were a public function I'd of thought his reaction was out of line. but since it was his show, i think its okay that he stood up like that...i wouldn't want anyone to have the last laugh but me if were my show...i think of all the other times when its worse and the celebrities just sit there and go..."ummm hellloooo isn't there gonna be some securtiy?" If he'd done that, plenty of people would be laughing at him for just letting it happen. Props to Maher for defending his right to keep people comfortable watching or attending his show...

 

[Mr Sparkle]

If you are questionable, you should observed. You're doing nothing wrong, you got nothing to worry about.

LOL, how very Gestapo of you.

 

[Addendum]

Aren't U.S. citizens capable of terrorism??

Yes. However, that possibility shouldn't dismantle the major aspects of the U.S. judicial system (innocent until proven guilty, obtaining warrants legally by presenting probable cause to a judge, allowing the accused to face their accusers in court and be allowed to see the evidence gathered against them)

 

[ShadowBoxing]

We have arrested several "U.S. citizens over the last 6 years that were planning attacks on our soil in the name of Allah. Americans......traitors.

If you are questionable, you should observed. You're doing nothing wrong, you got nothing to worry about.

You're right, you should be. However, there is no reason to suspend constitutional rights to do so.

 

[bullets]

if it were a public function I'd of thought his reaction was out of line. but since it was his show, i think its okay that he stood up like that...i wouldn't want anyone to have the last laugh but me if were my show...i think of all the other times when its worse and the celebrities just sit there and go..."ummm hellloooo isn't there gonna be some securtiy?" If he'd done that, plenty of people would be laughing at him for just letting it happen. Props to Maher for defending his right to keep people comfortable watching or attending his show...

yeah but bill maher waited until he saw that security was on their way and thats why he called for them before he stood up . he would not of moved an inch otherwise. everyone can praise his gusto but the truth is that it does not exist .
he did have the right to call for security to out them , its a shame that the "movement" didnt have a better approach than acting like a bunch of jerry springer guests

 

[Kritish]

We have arrested several "U.S. citizens over the last 6 years that were planning attacks on our soil in the name of Allah. Americans......traitors.

If you are questionable, you should observed. You're doing nothing wrong, you got nothing to worry about.

Have fun living in a police state.

 

[Hotwire]

Yes, it was terribly convenient for something like this to happen after Bush got into office. I remember watching Bush Sr on TV the day after it happened, seeing the look on his face, and thinking..."He knew." I saw Clinton on TV a few days later and saw the same look. They knew this was going to happen.

I've thought for quite a while now, that Bush not only knew 9/11 was going to happen, but that he let it happen, this way he would have the American people behind him when he invaded Iraq. I'm also sure Clinton knew it was going to happen, hell, he gave Bush the memo Bin Laden Detirmined to Attack In the U.S.. But Bush did nothing, he didn't even leave the classroom when he was told the U.S. was under attack.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

What?!

No way, a whole wing of "the movement" is devoted to the idea that the attacks were real, in line with the official story, but that the problem is that the government knew they were coming and allowed it to happen to further the goals of P.N.A.C.
Physics and architecture have nothing to do with any of it.

The "Truth Movement" is comprised of people who question the mainstream account of what happened that day.
Tons of them are more interested in stuff like:

The 9/11 investigations making light of the "Bin Ladin Airlift" during the no-fly period, and ignoring the long-standing Bush family business ties to the Bin Ladin family fortune. (A company in which both families held interests, the Carlyle Group, was holding its annual meeting on September 11th, with George Bush Sr., James Baker, and two brothers of Osama Bin Ladin in attendance.)

Principals in US foreign policy under the current Bush administration (including Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle and others) have been instrumental in developing long-running plans for worldwide military hegemony, including an invasion of the Middle East, dating back to the Ford, Reagan and Bush Sr. administrations. They reiterated these plans in the late 1990s as members of the "Project for a New American Century," and stated a clear intent to invade Iraq for the purpose of "regime change." After 9/11, they lost no time in their attempt to tie Iraq to the attacks.

How it's well documented that the officials topping the chain of command for response to a domestic attack - George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Myers, Montague Winfield - all found reason to do something else during the actual attacks, other than assuming their duties as decision-makers.

If you ask who was in charge, Dick Cheney, Richard Clarke, Norman Mineta and the 9/11 Commission directly conflict in their accounts of top-level response to the unfolding events, such that several (or all) of them must be lying.

How the US air defense system failed to follow standard procedures for responding to diverted passenger flights.

NORAD, FAA, Pentagon, USAF, as well as the 9/11 Commission - gave radically different explanations for the failure (in some cases upheld for years), such that several officials must have lied; but none were held accountable.

How the US military and other authorities planned or actually rehearsed defensive response to all elements of the 9/11 scenario during the year prior to the attack - including multiple hijackings, suicide crashbombings, and a strike on the Pentagon.

The multiple military wargames planned long in advance and held on the morning of September 11th included scenarios of a domestic air crisis, a plane crashing into a government building, and a large-scale emergency in New York. If this was only an incredible series of coincidences, why did the official investigations avoid the issue?
There is evidence that the wargames created confusion as to whether the unfolding events were "real world or exercise."
So people think the wargames served as a cover for air defense sabotage.

This makes it doubly preposterous when Bush and Cheney say "No one could have forseen planes crashing into buildings."
TELEVISION FICTION WRITERS foresaw that exact scenario.

It's super damning how multiple allied foreign agencies informed the US government of a coming attack in detail, including the manner and likely targets of the attack, the name of the operation (the "Big Wedding"), and the names of certain men later identified as being among the perpetrators.

And it's a fact that certain prominent persons received warnings not to fly on the week or on the day of September 11th.
There's a lady whose office is the exact point where a plane hit.
Guess where she was that morning.
She was at Warren Buffet's golf tournament, held on an Air Force base.
It's his annual golf tournament for all of his high powered friends, and every single other year, it was held on a different date (I can't remember, like, April 20th or whatever), but in 2001, after all those years, he told everyone that this year, it would be held on the morning of September 11th, so all his high powered friends took that morning off.

If you watch 9/11 retrospectives, you will see a lot of CEO's, talking about how sad it is that practically their whole staff was taken out.

........and how unknown speculators allegedly used foreknowledge of the Sept. 11th events to profiteer on many markets internationally - including but not limited to "put options" placed to short-sell the two airlines, WTC tenants, and WTC re-insurance companies in Chicago and London.

There's, uh, a lot more to it than engineering and physics.

I've seen both sides of this because as I've said before, my favorite magazines are "Paranoia" and "The Skeptic"...and I'm here to tell you, you're generalizing.
There are people on both sides that ignore experts, and there are people on both sides who don't have an agenda and really want to get at the truth.
There are people who think the Gov't. let it happen, who also ridicule claims about explosives in the buildings, just as there are people who believe the gov't. was innocent, but there are too many suspicious or convenient "facts" floating around to buy their "Official Story".

...Holy s**t.

Can you post some links to where you got this info?

 

[Jerry!]

That kind of stuff has been out there for years, its just that people who are crazy overshadow it and they are all put into one group.

 

[Hotwire]

...Holy s**t.

Can you post some links to where you got this info?

You can try reading these for starters...
Plan Of Attack -Bob Woodward
The 9/11 Commission Report

 

[sinewave]

I've thought for quite a while now, that Bush not only knew 9/11 was going to happen, but that he let it happen, this way he would have the American people behind him when he invaded Iraq. I'm also sure Clinton knew it was going to happen, hell, he gave Bush the memo Bin Laden Detirmined to Attack In the U.S.. But Bush did nothing, he didn't even leave the classroom when he was told the U.S. was under attack.

he did? i though that came from the intelligence community, not the former president?

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Here is a good link debunking Loose Change
http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html

Addresses the whole PNAC report too...they take that "New Pearl Harbor" quote way out of context.

BTW, before you go bashing this....READ THE W-H-O-L-E THING first, kay

 

[Hotwire]

he did? i though that came from the intelligence community, not the former president?

You may be right on that, but I believe there was something regarding Bin Laden that Clinton passed to Bush when the administration changed, and Bush ignored it.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

It was a series of initiatives designed to improve the United States ability to deter terrorism. It didn't have anything specifically to do with Bin Laden, although it certaining was aimed at him and others like him.

 

[Sloth7d]

Maher had all rights to kick them out of the audience. Though I don't deny the government had 9/11 happen.

$$$=the American way and is pretty much the whole reason we went to war despite what they tell you.

 

[Carcharodon]

You may be right on that, but I believe there was something regarding Bin Laden that Clinton passed to Bush when the administration changed, and Bush ignored it.

If that's true, how could Clinton have any blame...at all? He wasn't in power anymore. He rightfully passed the torch and responsibility on to Dubya.

EDIT: I know you weren't blaming him, but there are people that have.

 

[sinewave]

You may be right on that, but I believe there was something regarding Bin Laden that Clinton passed to Bush when the administration changed, and Bush ignored it.

yeah, i know richard clarke, the terrorism czar from the clinton administration, tried to sit down with bush to discuss al qaeda with him when bush's first term started, but bush blew him off.

It was a series of initiatives designed to improve the United States ability to deter terrorism. It didn't have anything specifically to do with Bin Laden, although it certaining was aimed at him and others like him.

didn't clinton setup a task force specifically focused on bin laden and al qaeda? i think i remember reading about that somewhere...