Black Man Killed by Cops For Selling CDS

[Thundercrack85]

Though on the other side of the coin, Asians do statistically commit less crimes than whites, and blacks more than whites.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Though on the other side of the coin, Asians do statistically commit less crimes than whites, and blacks more than whites.

We're too damn busy solving complex math equations.....

 

[Sithborg]

I have a real question here about law enforcement. Over the last few years I have seen a lot of videos, including on Cops, where the police mention how their number one job is getting home. When did that become a thing? When did that become their #1 job? I thought their job was to serve and protect the public? This mentality that even the slightest bit of risk is unacceptable and is to be confronted with deadly force. It is insane.

Why is it so different than any other dangerous job? Do cops have no right to defend themselves. When guns are in play, there is really no alternative in real life. They can have good training for non-lethal methods, but tasers lose to guns, period.

This sounds like a horrible, horrible case of either inexperience or bad training. It sounds like it shouldn't have happened, and I'm not exactly eager to check out any videos. But I can see how it could've happened.

And can we not use the term "thug"? It has become such an obvious racist dogwhistle...

 

[Thundercrack85]

I mean, I think it's obvious that black people commit more crime because they are disproportionately impoverished, and that goes hand in hand with higher crime rates. There's also a century of disenfranchisement which has left them outside a system, which has traditionally opposed them.

But it's not exactly surprising that police then tend to become racially biased, with the expected disastrous results.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

How much more likely do white men commit violent crimes than white women?

I guess for white female cops it's open season on white male suspects.

Good luck the next time a white female cop pulls you over!

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

We're too damn busy solving complex math equations.....

Hurry up and invent a less arrogant A.I.to do those equations.

 

[Sawyer]

Honestly, the fury over this kind of s*** should've hit a fever pitch when the cops gunned down the kid playing with his toy gun literally a half second after pulling up on him. Sterling, Michael Brown.... they're gonna dig for any dirt they can find to make the killing seem justified. What justification do these open carry-supporting motherf***ers have for executing a preteen playing with his toy?

 

[Sawyer]

Jesus and now the f***ing Falcon Heights shooting.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Body cams were supposed to prevent this but according to the police the body cams fell off during this incedent.

C'mon.

It's like they don't care if we know they don't care.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Honestly, the fury over this kind of s*** should've hit a fever pitch when the cops gunned down the kid playing with his toy gun literally a half second after pulling up on him. Sterling, Michael Brown.... they're gonna dig for any dirt they can find to make the killing seem justified. What justification do these open carry-supporting motherf***ers have for executing a preteen playing with his toy?

That was bad. But this guy and Michael Brown... yeah. I mean dig up dirt? He literally robbed a store minutes before having an altercation with a police officer.

This was a convicted felon with a concealed weapon while on probation resisting arrest. I mean, the situation got out of control, but this is hardly the same as something like Trayvon Martin.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Jesus and now the f***ing Falcon Heights shooting.

These shooting happen every day.

It's just that the media usually doesn't put it in the national news cycle.

 

[The Apocalypse]

Jesus and now the f***ing Falcon Heights shooting.

Yeah...just pretty speechless.

 

[Sawyer]

That was bad. But this guy and Michael Brown... yeah. I mean dig up dirt? He literally robbed a store minutes before having an altercation with a police officer.

This was a convicted felon with a concealed weapon while on probation resisting arrest. I mean, the situation got out of control, but this is hardly the same as something like Trayvon Martin.

Then we're talking about guys who might've had jail time coming to them, not a body bag.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Then we're talking about guys who might've had jail time coming to them, not a body bag.

Depends. You fight an armed officer of the law, and reach for his firearm, it's not unreasonable for said office to shoot you.

With this case, I do think the police acted incompetently, but not irrationally. You've encountered a belligerent man with a concealed gun, he refuses to comply. Should he have been restrained non lethally? Yes. But, I can't say that in such an overreaction and dangerous moment a mistake is the same as "murder".

Early reports made it sound like police executed a man selling CDs. Now we know he's a violent felon, on probation, with an illegal, concealed deadly weapon resisting arrest.

Police being ready to use deadly force is not unreasonable.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Jesus and now the f***ing Falcon Heights shooting.

That video was one of the saddest f***ing things I've ever watched

 

[Sithborg]

But I'm pretty certain the cops didn't know his background. They were, however called because the victim threatened someone with a gun. So that was obviously on their mind.

 

[Thundercrack85]

But I'm pretty certain the cops didn't know his background. They were, however called because the victim threatened someone with a gun. So that was obviously on their mind.

The moment you get that call, you're prepared to use deadly force.

Again, I do think the cops acted poorly here, but it's not like he had a wallet in his pocket.

I also wonder about the officers not knowing his background. He was a regular according to the shop owner, and police presumably kept some tabs on him given his impressive rap sheet. He had a physical altercation with the police in the past. It's a possibility at least.

 

[Lighthouse]

That Falcon Heights story is disgusting.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

That Falcon Heights video is a perfect example of the dangers of driving while black.

This is why I always have my license and registration in my hand (which are ten and two on the steering wheel) before the police walk up to my window.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Why is it so different than any other dangerous job? Do cops have no right to defend themselves. When guns are in play, there is really no alternative in real life. They can have good training for non-lethal methods, but tasers lose to guns, period.

This sounds like a horrible, horrible case of either inexperience or bad training. It sounds like it shouldn't have happened, and I'm not exactly eager to check out any videos. But I can see how it could've happened.

And can we not use the term "thug"? It has become such an obvious racist dogwhistle...

But that is exactly why I would expect caution for both the cops and those they are paid to serve and protect. Because it works both ways. That people are killed daily who are no real threats to cops is exactly my problem. And I agree it has to do with training. Too much training today is about putting down all potential threats.

 

[Wildcard]

This is just getting more and more ridiculous. My heart weeps so, so much.

Damn man, I'm starting to tear up again....

My people don't deserve this. No one does.

 

[Victarion]

It seems like you're hearing more about blacks being the victims of police brutality. Has this always been an unseen issue, or was there recently an uptick of cop on blacks violence?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

It seems like you're hearing more about blacks being the victims of police brutality. Has this always been an unseen issue, or was there recently an uptick of cop on blacks violence?

I doubt there's an uptick.

But everyone has a video camera in their phone these days.

So the unseen issue is being exposed on a regular basis.

 

[Evelisse]

Jesus, the Falcon Hieghts video

 

[L33CHem]

It seems like you're hearing more about blacks being the victims of police brutality. Has this always been an unseen issue, or was there recently an uptick of cop on blacks violence?

I think part of it is the coverage and reactions that it gets media wise. Now everytime someone records even just the tail end of a situation, it can become a national story. If it were stories of black people just complying with cops and no force being used, it wouldn't make the news. Although I bet the majority of cases would be like that. The ones that escalate are of more interest in the media cycle.