Bond Films

[Brian Braddock]

I'm with you on one thing - some Bond films may not be the best but for some folk on here to put them in the same bracket as DADin terms of sickiness is just plain wrong.

That film hit levels of crapdom like to other.

 

[LexCorp]

The Living Daylights is one of the best as far as I'm concerned. To put it on level with DAD is an insult. It has a great plot, a good debut by Dalton and some solid action sequences. It's easily leagues ahead of License To Kill (which could've starred Stallone or Ah-nuld and have been the exact same movie).

Moonraker gets too much **** thrown at it as well. It's not among the best, but it's no cornier or OTT than most other Bond movies. It's a very fun and entertaining movie with some great scenes. Also, Drax is among the most vicious of the Bond villians.

Nice avy!!

 

[Golgo-13]

You know everytime i visit this thread, it saddens me. The logic that SHH used to close the Bond forums, was absolutely ridiculous.

There's sssssooooo much in the Bond-verse to discuss. There's about 40 years worth of trivia to discuss;there's no way we can cover what needs to be talked about in one or two threads..it's ridiculous. Of all the Heroes on the Hype that have their own forums, Bond is one of the few, with the exceptions of Batman and a few others, that have been around for a very long time, and is internationally known, yet his forum was killed.

I know this is like beating a dead horse, but still..............

 

[LexCorp]

You know everytime i visit this thread, it saddens me. The logic that SHH used to close the Bond forums, was absolutely ridiculous.

There's sssssooooo much in the Bond-verse to discuss. There's about 40 years worth of trivia to discuss;there's no way we can cover what needs to be talked about in one or two threads..it's ridiculous. Of all the Heroes on the Hype that have their own forums, Bond is one of the few, with the exceptions of Batman and a few others, that have been around for a very long time, and is internationally known, yet his forum was killed.

I know this is like beating a dead horse, but still..............

I agree 100% dude. I remember the Bonf Forum.....it's silly.

You know it should still be there. You beat that horse...I'll hold it down.

 

[Golgo-13]

I wonder if there's anyway to petition against the decision...?

 

[LexCorp]

I wonder if there's anyway to petition against the decision...?

I mean there is still a Sin City forum...untill the movie a few years ago that was not that popular.

As you say...Bond has been around for 40+ years.

Maybe if we asked very nicely

 

[The Chairman]

Nice avy!!

Thank you. t:

 

[LexCorp]

Thank you. t:

Hey Chairman, would you want the Bond forum back?

 

[Kevin Roegele]

This is how Living Daylights ended.

The Living Daylights doesn't end with Bond being attacked with toys. LOL.

It ends with Bond and Whitaker in a gun fight amidst Whitaker's war memorobilia. Whitaker does activate some kind of weird toy that fires a real cannon ball at 007, but that's the only instance.

 

[Warhammer]

I always thought The Living Daylights ended with the truck coming out of the back of the plane. I guess I need to watch it again.

 

[Catman]

The Living Daylights is one of the best as far as I'm concerned. To put it on level with DAD is an insult. It has a great plot, a good debut by Dalton and some solid action sequences.

I never liked Dalton as Bond. He took the role too seriously. And the Bond Girl in that movie was horrible. Jon Don Baker wasn't a memorable villain. The New Moneypenny was even less memorable. The plot and action scenes were okay. I'll give you that.

It's easily leagues ahead of License To Kill (which could've starred Stallone or Ah-nuld and have been the exact same movie).

License to Kill is a good MOVIE, but it's a terrible BOND MOVIE. I'll give you that as well.

Drax is among the most vicious of the Bond villians.

Drax is Stromberg was dark hair and a beard.

The Living Daylights doesn't end with Bond being attacked with toys. LOL.

It ends with Bond and Whitaker in a gun fight amidst Whitaker's war memorobilia. Whitaker does activate some kind of weird toy that fires a real cannon ball at 007, but that's the only instance.

Either way...I wasn't impressed with the ending.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I always thought The Living Daylights ended with the truck coming out of the back of the plane. I guess I need to watch it again.

You do. First of all, there is a huge battle on a Russian air base against the Mujahideen. Then the penultimate action scene is Bond and the henchman fighting on a cargo net which is hanging from an aeroplane, while a bomb aboard is ticking down to zero, and Kara is about to fly the plane into a mountain. They escape by ejecting a jeep from the plane just before it explodes. After that Bond infiltrates Whitaker's base, and they have a shoot-out. Bond's PPK is no match for Whitaker's star-of-the-art weapons, but 007 eventually ouwits him.

That's the climax, not Bond fighting some toys.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I think of Dalton as the Christopher Nolan Bond. That is, the version you could most believe actually existing.

 

[Golgo-13]

I think of Dalton as the Christopher Nolan Bond. That is, the version you could most believe actually existing.

I think Craig is moreso from the Nolan-verse than Dalton.

I actually buy Craig being more of what a British spy would look like. real-ex spies/operatives say the biggest asset of any spy is to blend in. To look ordinary. If you see him/her walking down the street, you wouldn't give them a second glance because he looks so average/below average. I know Bond is sopposed to be the hunky guy,and that's part of the mytho but in the real world good looks attract attention, and that could get them killed/compromise. Craig is the least prettiest/handsome of all the Bonds, which is why i say i buy him as a real rough-rugged, ex-military spy, moreso than Dalton.

 

[Mr Jide]

Good point, although it only highlights just how great early connery was. Sure he was good looking, impeccably dressed (tailored at saville row in London's west end...very upmarket) but you'd look at him and assume he was a banker or something, hence the whole universal exports sharade. However, I love that line in TB where he tells that lady he's somewhat of a licensed trouble shooter....haha...I love it.

 

[Drizzle]

So I've been setting my sights on buying this:

I want it so badly, and I've been looking for which store has the best price on it.

 

[ChickenScratch]

People's opinions of Dalton always point out one thing to me. If you love his portrayal of Bond (like I do) then you've read the books and know that he's the closest there ever came to who Fleming's man really is. Then there are those who hate him and think he's too serious, angry, cold ... exactly what he is meant to be.

 

[Bat Bond]

That box set is a joke. If you don't already have the four Ultimate Edition sets (and/or CASINO ROYALE), it's a decent purchase. But look how lazy it is? All they did was take the four original sets and the original CASINO ROYALE DVD and throw it into a box.

I saw somewhere that a major electronics store (Best Buy, maybe?) was selling the Ultimate Edition sets for something like $18 on Black Friday. That's a helluva deal.

 

[Agentsands77]

If you love his portrayal of Bond (like I do) then you've read the books and know that he's the closest there ever came to who Fleming's man really is.

In some respects, he's the closest to Fleming. Not in all of them.

He's always a bit too tense for Fleming's Bond, I feel, who would get intense when the moment required it, but also had a relaxed sense of charm about him. And in his interactions with women, Dalton's Bond was often way off the mark.

 

[Drizzle]

That box set is a joke. If you don't already have the four Ultimate Edition sets (and/or CASINO ROYALE), it's a decent purchase.

That's the thing. I don't own any of the Bond films (except for a DVD of Goldeneye that I got a few years ago), so it'd be a good purchase for me.

 

[ChickenScratch]

In some respects, he's the closest to Fleming. Not in all of them.

He's always a bit too tense for Fleming's Bond, I feel, who would get intense when the moment required it, but also had a relaxed sense of charm about him. And in his interactions with women, Dalton's Bond was often way off the mark.

Too tense? What are you talking about? There's one relaxed bit in both his movies, at M16 and he's pretty relaxed hanging out on Moneypenny's desk having a smoke. His two movies were marked with pretty much a chase from start to finish in TLD and getting revenge for Felix in LTK.

He was not tense, he treated the situations with the right amount of gravity.

 

[Catman]

Craig is the least prettiest/handsome of all the Bonds, which is why i say i buy him as a real rough-rugged, ex-military spy, moreso than Dalton.

Dalton wasn't really that good looking either. ESPECIALLY if you compare him to Connery and Brosnan. Heck...even Roger Moore was a decent looking guy.

If you love his portrayal of Bond (like I do) then you've read the books and know that he's the closest there ever came to who Fleming's man really is. Then there are those who hate him and think he's too serious, angry, cold ... exactly what he is meant to be.

Only if you take the books too seriously. Bond has always been male fantasy. If you play Bond you have to accept that and have fun with it. Thats what made Connery so great. He took the role seriously (atleast in the first three) but had fun with it. And Fleming was still alive when Dr. No and From Russia With Love was released. He LOVED Connery's performance. He loved it so much that he made Bond half-Scottish. So if Fleming loved what Connery did then he was spot on.

And in his interactions with women, Dalton's Bond was often way off the mark.

lol. so true...

 

[Bat Bond]

In some respects, he's the closest to Fleming. Not in all of them.

He's always a bit too tense for Fleming's Bond, I feel, who would get intense when the moment required it, but also had a relaxed sense of charm about him. And in his interactions with women, Dalton's Bond was often way off the mark.

I have to imagine this is harmsway posting. Who else would be plugging SWEENEY TODD in their sig?

As for Dalton, it hurts me to see the amount of depreciation that he receives from the masses (not necessarily the fans).

Personally I loved his Bond films. Dalton's two outings are among my favorites. However, had he been able to feature in more Bonds that were tone-wise somewhere between THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS and LICENSE TO KILL I think he would've caught on much more with the public and ultimately produced some high-quality (not saying two weren't high quality, of course), more generally accepted films.

That's the thing. I don't own any of the Bond films (except for a DVD of Goldeneye that I got a few years ago), so it'd be a good purchase for me.

Go for it then. I'm sure the price is better than buying the four sets plus CASINO ROYALE separately.

 

[Catman]

had he been able to feature in more Bonds that were tone-wise somewhere between THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS and LICENSE TO KILL I think he would've caught on much more with the public and ultimately produced some high-quality (not saying two weren't high quality, of course), more generally accepted films.

Agreed. Dalton appeared in two movies of a series that features 21 and counting. He didn't really do anything to make himself stand out. Atleast George Lazenby ended his movie crying with his dead wife in his arms. Dalton is just the guy who battled drug dealers in Colombia.

 

[LexCorp]

Was there a scene with Dalton escaping on a musical case down an ice slope.