Bought/Thought January 21, 2009 - SPOILERS

[Phaedrus45]

I'm not sure if anyone bought/thought this in a past thread; but, somehow I missed getting New Exiles Annual #1, and got it this last weekend from my LCS. I just finished reading it, and for those interested, Claremont finally addresses the Morph/Proteus problem. It's very, very lame, and basically Morph convinces Proteus that he wants to turn over a new leaf and share Morph's body together and work towards good.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

You mean Proteus convinces Morph, right? Morph's leaf was always turned the proper way, if you know what I mean.

Oh, and I got that Tigra mini-series from a few years ago off eBay after hearing how great it made the character. Rumors of its greatness were highly exaggerated, I must admit. Deodato's art was okay outside of the usual Deodato-isms, but the story was pretty ham-fisted. Basically, Tigra infiltrates an organization of corrupt cops who turn to extreme, violent vigilantism for relatively minor crimes because she learns that her dead husband was caught up in it, and then she becomes a cop because in the course of her investigation she feels like she's found a purpose that she was lacking before. Not a bad premise, but the execution was sort of awkward, including several scenes where we learn that, apparently, being Tigra makes Greer unable to feel shame at all and unable to feel fear for anything but fire. Really weird. It also hits the usual clichés of giving Tigra a couple of relationship issues and making her have to struggle with her bestial side. Two things it did do well, however, were allowing Tigra to actually kick lots of ass (a stark contrast back then, I'm sure, but even more so now that Tigra's been trampled over in every appearance for the last couple years) and giving her a solid status quo at the end of it. Tigra as a cop by day, superheroine by night could've been cool. But the mini-series that got her there was not.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Is that the Tigra mini that has some special imprint on the top, like Icons or something? I really cannot remember a Tigra mini that blew me away.

 

[Mr. Green]

I doubt it was an Icon imprint because that's where all the creator-owned stuff in Marvel goes. MAX is where they put the graphic stuff involving Marvel characters.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Phaedrus is half-right: it was one of the Avengers Icons mini-series that focused on random Avengers characters a few years ago. Geoff Johns wrote an Avengers Icons: Vision mini around the same time that was better as a narrative but kind of a muddled mess as far as continuity goes.

 

[RockSP]

Bought

No Hero #3
Dr. Doom and the Masters of Evil #1
The Brave and the Bold #21
X-Factor #39
Guardians of the Galaxy #9
Sista Samurai one shot
The Boys #26
Astonishing X-Men #28
War Machine #2
X-Men: Kingbreaker #2
The Lone Ranger & Tonto #2
Black Lightning: Year One #2
JLA #29
Thunderbolts #128
100 Bullets #99
Dark Avengers #1
Mighty Avengers #21
Birds of Prey #126
Green Lantern #37
Air #6


Thought

Black Lightning - Nice recounciling of the metagene powers versus belt powers issue. And the slight redesign of his old school costume works.

Dark Avengers - Don't see this going on the pull list, but I might give it a few issues thanks to Deodato. How Osborn obtained the armor doesn't make much sense to me. Stark has waged Armor Wars over his tech before but he's gonna leave tons of armors just lying around?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Presumably, he didn't have enough time to pack up his s*** when he was run out of the office as a fugitive. Granted, he should probably still have some kind of failsafe to lock his spare armors down.

 

[Dread]

Presumably, he didn't have enough time to pack up his s*** when he was run out of the office as a fugitive. Granted, he should probably still have some kind of failsafe to lock his spare armors down.

Especially considering that a large chunk of Iron Man's character is, "Omigod, what happens if evil people use my technology for evil? I have to do everything in my power to stop that, even if it bends the law or alienates allies" and the fact that Iron Man is more than aware of the Ghost and that some of his security can be breached. How about nanite cells that make the suits self-destruct? Ah, well. Norman needed a suit and Bendis was going to get him one.

Remember, part of keeping Marvel "realistic" and "relatable" is by having superheroes with over a decade's experience act like things have never happened to them before and they are always caught off guard with no back up plan.

Even though can't, like, all of Iron Man's enemies build rip-off armor suits by now anyway? Shouldn't pirated blueprints be floating around the black market after all these years? But, oh well. Bendis wanted his sequence.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

One question I had about the Iron Patriot: is it built on Extremis technology or is it just a copy of Tony's non-Extremis armor? Because, according to Mighty Avengers, even Tony himself doesn't have functioning Extremis enhancements anymore. He's back to being just a guy in armor.

 

[Dread]

The answer is: Bendis wouldn't need to worry about it. All an editor says to Bendis is either, "Yes, sir" or "Good idea, sir", so if Bendis doesn't care about that sort of thing, it won't matter.

If it did, I'm sure some explanation involving a green serum of some sort would explain it away.

"Oh, yeah, I mixed some new thing that mixes with the nanobots already in my system from CW that allows me to operate it," I could imagine Norman saying. But I don't think it is a big deal to Bendis.

 

[moraldeficiency]

From what I gather by interviews extremis is completely off the table, the suit is stark tech combined with Oscorp tech.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

What did Oscorp add to it? The internal speakers transmit voices into the wearer's head now?

 

[moraldeficiency]

I've got no idea, i'm just assuming he would have. Not too much with the tech but in terms of chemicals, he's pretty much the top guy in the MU. Though that would imply bendis thought about norman's background, so probably not.

 

[RockSP]

What did Oscorp add to it?

The paint job.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I've got no idea, i'm just assuming he would have. Not too much with the tech but in terms of chemicals, he's pretty much the top guy in the MU. Though that would imply bendis thought about norman's background, so probably not.

Right, but it's a suit of armor. Chemicals aren't really involved.

 

[Mr. Green]

The answer is: Bendis wouldn't need to worry about it. All an editor says to Bendis is either, "Yes, sir" or "Good idea, sir", so if Bendis doesn't care about that sort of thing, it won't matter.

If it did, I'm sure some explanation involving a green serum of some sort would explain it away.

"Oh, yeah, I mixed some new thing that mixes with the nanobots already in my system from CW that allows me to operate it," I could imagine Norman saying. But I don't think it is a big deal to Bendis.

What does Stark's Extremis have anything to do with Bendis? It said he didn't have it anymore in MA and that was probably the Iron Man writer's call anyway.

 

[Mr. Green]

Right, but it's a suit of armor. Chemicals aren't really involved.

From what DA #1 it didn't say anything about modifying the armor. He found the armor and he was Iron Patriot. Maybe they'll go into further detail in the next issue.

 

[fifthfiend]

Tony lost the Extremis in SI because that's what the Skrulls infected to make him all sick and useless through the whole thing.

We can probably assume Norman isn't using any kind of Extremis-derived technology given that its vulnerabilities were exactly what cleared Tony out of the way for his own rise to power. He's probably just using older IM tech.

It's still stupid that Tony would get caught with his **** completely unguarded but hey it's a Bendis comic, stupid is what the audience is there for.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Mkay, I was just seeking confirmation of that. So we're back to a simpler world where no one can magically interface with their armor by thinking happy thoughts.

I'm surprised they didn't stick Tony in the movie armor. Instead, they just went back to the pre-Extremis design (which half the artists were confusing with his Extremis armor design all this time anyway).

 

[Mr. Green]

Oh, I gotchya.