Bought/Thought January 3rd, 2007...

Yes!Was finally able to pick up my comics at Hideeho Comics in Santa Monica!

All Star Superman #6 - Too good.

Captain America #22 and 23 - Glad I went back and got them.The supporting cast in this book is superb.

Punisher War Journal #2 - Fraction with the crazyness again.Haven't picked up CW #6 yet so have of it was ruined for me.

Immortal Iron Fist #2 - This story is becoming very interesting.

JLA #5 - After seeing that one page splash of the League together,I'm convinced that this book is good.I've had my doubts,but Meltzer's character driven approach looks to be paying off.

Yet to read...

Superman #658
Civil War #6
Hulk #92
 
JLA #5 - After seeing that one page splash of the League together,I'm convinced that this book is good.I've had my doubts,but Meltzer's character driven approach looks to be paying off.

I dont know why more people don't listen to me.:csad:
 
I know Morrison is one of those "adore him" or "burning anger in your heart hate him" writers, but his ASS is amazing.

Now that I got that out of the way, All Star Superman was great too.
 
I hear Grant Morrison is getting a real pounding by fans for his ASS being chronically late, but he's real anal about his scripts.
 
That ASS joke beat my ASS joke.:(:up:
 
LOL!

Dude you kicked off something!

That made me smile buddy.
 
What I don't understand is that I could get it if some of the lessor selling titles, like ANT-MAN, or unproven titles, like NEWUNIVERSAL, had it. Heck, I could even accept it in ASM or FRONTLINE. But CIVIL WAR is a 250,000+ seller! It is literally the BEST selling comic in the industry! And not only that, it is the centerpiece of Marvel's entire 2006-2007 event that is piledriving DC in sales and boosting no end of books. Why make it more of a chore to read? That is the exact opposite of what you want to do. Don't you want to REWARD fans for supporting it past 200k sales? True, it had less ads than some books (under 10, which these days is scarce), but that cardboard one was just annoying and distracting. Not a huge deal, but if we're talking about the issue, I'd be less than honest if I didn't mention it's annoyance. I just don't understand how Joe Q can claim he wants to publish good, enjoyable comics and then in the same breath cram in distractions simply to make another paycheck.


Well, there's a reason why the top movie of the summer has the most previews, and why the Super Bowl has so many commercials that you forget there's a game going on. When you know there are people looking, that's when you advertise. Not the other way around. Why spend money (and it does cost money to print or insert these ads) to reach 10,000 people, when you could potentially reach 250,000? Radio, tv, newspapers, magazines. Not one of them do it differently. If you have a tv show that reaches 10,000 people every week, you are able to charge the lowest for an ad. If you have one that reaches 5,000,000 every week, than name your price. AND, you do everything you can to cut the show short by 30 secs or minute to get one or two more ads in. Why should comics be permitted to defy capitalist physics?

I'm not saying it's not annoying. It is. But, after going through the bankruptcy years, I will never fault Marvel for getting the most bang out of their buck, as long as I think the overall quality doesn't suffer (and I don't think it has. Not even a little.) And if the biggest price I have to pay is turning a page to avoid an ad, well, it's ridiculous to even say that it's a small, small, price.
 
I don't know what Dread keeps *****ing about personally, I never noticed ads before but because of his constant *****ing I checked it out. CW #6 had 9 ad pages, Frontline had 8! OMG KILL ME! Thats the normal amount of ad pages in any comic book. And the e-music thing? I just ripped it out, big deal.
 
I have no idea if there are ads in comic books, but I do know I feel like playing Children of Mana everytime I'm finished reading.
 
Hulk Like New Boombox!
 
I stopped taking drugs because it made my arms grow.
 
Well, there's a reason why the top movie of the summer has the most previews, and why the Super Bowl has so many commercials that you forget there's a game going on. When you know there are people looking, that's when you advertise. Not the other way around. Why spend money (and it does cost money to print or insert these ads) to reach 10,000 people, when you could potentially reach 250,000? Radio, tv, newspapers, magazines. Not one of them do it differently. If you have a tv show that reaches 10,000 people every week, you are able to charge the lowest for an ad. If you have one that reaches 5,000,000 every week, than name your price. AND, you do everything you can to cut the show short by 30 secs or minute to get one or two more ads in. Why should comics be permitted to defy capitalist physics?

I'm not saying it's not annoying. It is. But, after going through the bankruptcy years, I will never fault Marvel for getting the most bang out of their buck, as long as I think the overall quality doesn't suffer (and I don't think it has. Not even a little.) And if the biggest price I have to pay is turning a page to avoid an ad, well, it's ridiculous to even say that it's a small, small, price.

Then run, don't walk, to your comic book store and buy WHITE TIGER #2, which has 5 pages of ads, 1 of comic, and then another ad, if you love capitalism so much.

All of what you said makes sense, but then it becomes a no-win when you realize that low selling books are crammed with ads. It was just the EMUSIC thing that annoyed me. CW had under 10 in terms of pages and that wasn't a big deal.

But the moral? High selling books = Ads because they have a wider appeal

Low selling books = even more ads to justify low sales.

Ironically, Dark Horse and Image can sell garbage selling books for $2.99 with almost no ads, and I would like to know how.

Darthphere said:
I don't know what Dread keeps *****ing about personally, I never noticed ads before but because of his constant *****ing I checked it out. CW #6 had 9 ad pages, Frontline had 8! OMG KILL ME! Thats the normal amount of ad pages in any comic book. And the e-music thing? I just ripped it out, big deal.
You ripped it out? Now your book has about half value. Happy New Year from Marvel.

I wasn't complaining about the normal ads, just the EMUSIC one as aside. Like I said, IT WASN'T A BIG DEAL, but if I was honestly reviewing a book, I can't deny it was an annoyance.

However, in November and early December, Marvel was selling books with 24 pages of ads at times, and that WAS noticeable and distracting. But apparently some of you care little for being taken for granted, and would read a comic with 400 pages of ads so long as it was still $2.99. And you are the fans Marvel loves.

In MAD magazine, which has also seen an explosion of ads in recent years to make up for colorized interiors, answered a letter regarding it in their usual slapstick way, saying, "We love our readers, but we love money just a little bit more!" If only Joe Q were as honest.
 
Then run, don't walk, to your comic book store and buy WHITE TIGER #2, which has 5 pages of ads, 1 of comic, and then another ad, if you love capitalism so much.

I absolutely believe in capitalism and the free market. (As someone who constantly bashes Millar for his "liberalism", it's a little odd to see you complain about capitalism, which is supposed to be a conservative staple.)

And I did buy White Tiger #2. It's not that great. It could be ad-free, and it still wouldn't be that great.
 
I counted ads on a few comics. I didn't count front or back cover ads, or inserts:

Civil War #6 (2006) - 9
Amazing #537 (2006) - 10

Amazing #121 (remember, when Gwen Stacy died) - 7
Uncanny # 128 (1979) - 14
Uncanny #328 (1996- the height of the "worst" era of comic greed)- 8

Bottom line: on average, there are no more ads than there ever have been. It's just that in 1979, there was no internet to whine about the Hostess ads (and yes, there was one in that Uncanny!)
 
I absolutely believe in capitalism and the free market. (As someone who constantly bashes Millar for his "liberalism", it's a little odd to see you complain about capitalism, which is supposed to be a conservative staple.)

And I did buy White Tiger #2. It's not that great. It could be ad-free, and it still wouldn't be that great.
I never said it was good. I was just mentioning it's ad overkill.

I'm what you call a moderate.

And you'd be surprised, or not, to see that conservatives can abandon plenty of free market principles when they're in office.
 
I counted ads on a few comics. I didn't count front or back cover ads, or inserts:

Civil War #6 (2006) - 9
Amazing #537 (2006) - 10

Amazing #121 (remember, when Gwen Stacy died) - 7
Uncanny # 128 (1979) - 14
Uncanny #328 (1996- the height of the "worst" era of comic greed)- 8

Bottom line: on average, there are no more ads than there ever have been. It's just that in 1979, there was no internet to whine about the Hostess ads (and yes, there was one in that Uncanny!)

I am SO DAMNED TIRED OF THE "there was no internet before the late 90's so all of your supposed allegations of any miscue or mistake taken by Marvel are null and void" excuse.

And not for nothin', I can find comics shipped 2 months ago that had 22-24 ads. It happened around the same period in 2005 too, when Joe Q promised it would never happen again. THAT is why I brought it up this year. In 2005 Joe Q made it sound like ad counts outnumbering story pages was a one-year fluke and would never happen again. In 2006 he reverses himself and goes, "well, nature of the business, so suck it up". And as a loyal customer, this is not supposed to smell a little dirty?

Oh, and apparently I wasn't alone:

http://www.thexaxis.com/capsules/07Jan07.htm

Paul O'Brien said:
Meanwhile, over in Ed Brubaker's title, the Shi'ar Empire storyline reaches part 8 of 12. This seems as good a place as any to note that the adverts are back to normal quantities, but in their place we have a whopping great card insert which takes some ingenuity to get rid of without removing the staples. Here's how to do it: the spine provides a convenient crease, so tear the thing carefully along the crease. Then you should be able to yank the remaining card off the staples without doing any particular damage, and your reading experience will be all the better for it. (But do be careful, because if you screw it up, you end up with something like my copy of newuniversal #2, which is not a happy-looking object.)
 
You ripped it out? Now your book has about half value. Happy New Year from Marvel.

I wasn't complaining about the normal ads, just the EMUSIC one as aside. Like I said, IT WASN'T A BIG DEAL, but if I was honestly reviewing a book, I can't deny it was an annoyance.

However, in November and early December, Marvel was selling books with 24 pages of ads at times, and that WAS noticeable and distracting. But apparently some of you care little for being taken for granted, and would read a comic with 400 pages of ads so long as it was still $2.99. And you are the fans Marvel loves.

In MAD magazine, which has also seen an explosion of ads in recent years to make up for colorized interiors, answered a letter regarding it in their usual slapstick way, saying, "We love our readers, but we love money just a little bit more!" If only Joe Q were as honest.


I could care less about value, especially on a Civil War book. 400 pages is extreme, and you know it, but I can flip thorugh some 20 odd ads, its not a big deal. Some of you guys sound like you want to kill yourselves because of them.:whatever:
 
I could care less about value, especially on a Civil War book. 400 pages is extreme, and you know it, but I can flip thorugh some 20 odd ads, its not a big deal. Some of you guys sound like you want to kill yourselves because of them.:whatever:

When ad pages outnumber story pages it is an insult to the reader. It says, our money matters more than telling this story efficiently.

Thankfully, as I said, the ad count has died down, despite Joe Q being less than honest in 2005 about it. Just I was mentioning the EMUSIC thing.

Can I shift gears?

I know in the CW topic, I bet there are no end of conspiracy theories about Mrs. Sharpe (who I think may be Millar's version of Cindy Sheehan). Anyone out there have any? Think there could be a big bad villian underneathe it all, or is this story going to remain heroes vs. other heroes vs. villians the heroes are controlling or have a justified excuse to be bad, the sort of story I guess Millar could write well, if you didn't want pesky characterization or history to get in the way of kinetic butt kickings? And hey, I'll admit I gush like anyone else at a good fight scene.

Anyone think she's a Skrull? Mystique? Chamelon? Pawn of the Mad Thinker? Loki reborn? ;)
 
Miriam SHarpe is a wild card, but I dont think shes a skrull or anything like that. Could be shes a plant by some big corporation manipulating Stark.
 

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