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I'm never in the mood to read that much on a message board.
Crap, I'm gonna have to start reading them just to be contrary to you.Yeah I don't read your exceptionally long posts either.
More Bought/Thought:
PUNISHER: WAR JOURNAL #5: I tracked it down. Another solid one-shot story from Fraction, where Punisher himself remains on the fringes for most of the story and only G.W. Bridge and a beat cop named Ian (or is he?) are embroiled in a hostage drama with Bushwaker, who seems to get his upteenth redesign here. I don't mind it, though. And I don't mind 2 stories where Punisher himself is a bit player; Fraction writes and paces stories very well. Between this and PWJ and co-writing IRON FIST, he's definately become a breakout Marvel talent to me. What I DID mind was Oli deciding that he's too rushed for backgrounds and instead Photoshopping about 5 Times Square photographs behind his figures. I mean it didn't look back, but some panels looked jarring and it does seem lazy. I can imagine some poor soul who is beating their brains out trying to master architecture and vehicles and then looking at this and wondering why they bother practicing so hard. Granted, I'm sure they already do that everytime Bachelo draws something. It's a compact story that naturally continues the current Marvel theme; villians are only the pawns of heroes with alterior motives, in this case working secretly with Bridge to stage the whole fiasco just to lure out The Punisher. The story ends with a jaw-dropping reaction to Cap's death, the ONLY reaction to that event which I felt was genuine. Everyone stopped dead in their tracks, even Castle, and just was in shocked awe. Cap's death should have that effect on people and with everyone in NA assuming he's alive and none of his other heroic allies, Mighty Avengers or not seeming to give a damn, it was a worthwhile little scene.
I also bought DC: THE NEW FRONTIER and am halfway through the first volume, and enjoying it so far. But I feel it is worth mentioning that DC was greedy with this release. The only way to buy it, a 6 issue story, is through 2 trades, $19.99 a pop, or one ABSOLUTE edition, which has plenty of extras, but runs about $75. There's little reason it couldn't have at least been collected in one trade for, say, $34.99 at most by now. I just figured since I give Marvel a lot of flack for their greed, I have to be fair and note when I feel DC does it too. They both do, of course. Greed is the lifeblood of all successful business. It just is worth a mention. Aside for that, though, I'm liking it so far and should finish it this weekend.
Something positive was said about Way? How is that possible?
No, I mentioned the "Lucifer" thing he did with GHOST RIDER, which is absolutely worthless as even the film used Mephisto, and noted that at least when Brubaker does a retcon, he's honest about it and doesn't just pretend it isn't one. He digs up the past and tries to make it work. Way hasn't done that, and that's the one thing holding his otherwise readable GR back.
Ah, ok. I agree. I was reading Ghost Rider when it started, but then he continued the recent tradition of making Dr. Strange look like a *****, and I realized that no mention was ever made of why Johnny was GR again, how he wound up in Hell, why Lucifer was tormenting him instead of Mephisto, why he apparently has the Noble Kale version of the Ghost Rider rather than his original Zarathos version, etc. Pretty lame when writers think they can just start anew without addressing all of the lingering background threads. I had the same problem with Ennis' mini-series, only Ennis' mini-series was also kind of fun instead of the meandering piece of crap that Way's series has proven itself to be.No, I mentioned the "Lucifer" thing he did with GHOST RIDER, which is absolutely worthless as even the film used Mephisto, and noted that at least when Brubaker does a retcon, he's honest about it and doesn't just pretend it isn't one. He digs up the past and tries to make it work. Way hasn't done that, and that's the one thing holding his otherwise readable GR back.
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thank you.
one of brubaker's meal tickets is writing retcons. we know this. however, when he does it, he does it with care. it makes sense.
when you're dealing with characters that have been published for 40 odd years, it's very hard to be original. i'd go so far to say it's impossible. you can either create new characters or delve into the past for new ideas.
and like you said, at least he's honest about it.
Ah, ok. I agree. I was reading Ghost Rider when it started, but then he continued the recent tradition of making Dr. Strange look like a *****, and I realized that no mention was ever made of why Johnny was GR again, how he wound up in Hell, why Lucifer was tormenting him instead of Mephisto, why he apparently has the Noble Kale version of the Ghost Rider rather than his original Zarathos version, etc. Pretty lame when writers think they can just start anew without addressing all of the lingering background threads. I had the same problem with Ennis' mini-series, only Ennis' mini-series was also kind of fun instead of the meandering piece of crap that Way's series has proven itself to be.
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Does this mean that now Quesada is going to have Dread killed?!
Exactly. I mean even if it's a retcon you like, or one you don't (I didn't like some of the ones for DEADLY GENESIS), Brubaker dives into it, acknowledges it, and tries. Sometimes it's better to try and risk failure vs. just taking the "easy" way out, which is what Way has done on GHOST RIDER. He's assuming that the reader doesn't know better, or doesn't care. And even if he decides one cay to "explain" it, it'll ring as hollow as when Bendis finally got around to explaining why Jessica Drew's powers were "off" in NA #2, a full year after the fact without much build-up. Maybe Way doesn't want to risk a retcon, because he doesn't know the material well enough to pull it off. Maybe he's relying on fan ignorance. Or both. Even if Brubaker writes some stuff that seems irksome in theory, he's upfront about it.
And hey, I love what he and Fraction are doin' on IRON FIST, so when it works, it works.
i agree with you on "deadly genesis". as far as i'm concerned, he failed on that one. but like you said, he tried. now if we're talking daredevil, captain america or iron fist, he's tearing **** up. the last two years of captain america have been the absolute best i've EVER read. he's even succeeded mark waid's runs in my book, and those were top notch.
iron fist is a curious book for me. it's great, for sure. but brubaker seems to spreading himself a little thinner then he has in the past, and it makes me wonder just how much of the book he's actually writing. in the past, danny's not been the most successful of characters, and i have to wonder if bru's attacting his name to the project to give it a little push out of the gate. that's not to say that he's not involved in the writing...it's just...i wonder. if it is in fact true that bru's doing both the character AND fraction a favor, then i guess that's okay. as long as the quality doesn't diminish.
and hey, that just means fraction's THAT good of a writer.
Really no way of knowing how much of IRON FIST that each writer is writing. I won't make judgements. Although I am willing to bet a lot of the "history of the Iron Fist" stuff and Orson may have been him. But there is no way to tell and I won't assume the worst.
Fraction's a good writer too.
Still not reading the Cap trades though. Even though, ironically, I bought DC: THE NEW FRONTIER for argueably more shallow reasons than, "I bought Cap trades because he died". Which are, "DC is making a DTV in a year or two about it". Finished the first trade, it's a blast so far. Strangely the more of Wildcat I see the more I like him.
i'd be willing to bet that if you gave brubaker's cap a try, you'd like it. the winter soldier stuff, no matter what your opinion of the retcon is, is intense (and sometimes heartbreaking) stuff.
and the "the new frontier" is amazing by default. it's darwyn cooke. that guy is seemingly incapable of "the suck".
The thing with Cap is that he falls into the "never liked him enough to pay to read his books, or even bother DLing them" sort of category, much like with She-Hulk. I mean, I have no doubt if I read Slott's SHE-HULK, I would enjoy it. I'm sure it's written well and very funny. But I just don't care enough about Jen to pluck down that $3 for it every month. And maybe that makes no sense, to deny myself a book I admit is probably not bad because I have disinterest in the character, while I have often remained faithful to mediocre to bad books because of a character I DID have interest in, but there it is.
And yes, I did have a right to complain about "the death" due to the trend and the iconic nature of the hero. But I've gotten it out of my system, thankfully, so that is that.
While I'm being honest, if I did like it, I'd have to eat about a metric ton of humble pie after last week's tirades, and I am in no mood for that. So I'll keep that extra $50 for the 4 trades in my pocket, thanks.
I'm seeing that. The first volume is very good. I like the art style and the theme is amazingly simular to CIVIL WAR, only, like, actually subtle and treated as a story, instead of a checklist for shocking events. It touches on most of the DCU and even has the characters in pretty much chronological order, but focuses on Hal and J'onn, who often get the short end in "elseworlds" sort of stories over the Trilogy. Everyone's had a moment so far.
If DC/WB ruins the Frontier DTV film, I swear I'll hurt them. My expectations are high and I am only halfway through. Cooke's style is almost a storyboard unto itself. It just needs a faithful treatment.
we're a funny breed, us comic book readers. we'll pass on near groundbreaking runs because we're "not into the character"; but we forget that it's the writers are who made us care about the characters that we DO love so much.
five years ago i would not have looked twice at a she-hulk ongoing. but if she's being written by slott, then count me in every time. i enjoy the stories, and i enjoy the character. and it's all because slott's such a damn good scribe that he made me care.
all that talk aside, i know exactly what you're saying. it's why i've stayed away from kirkman's invincible for so long. i didn't need another book to add to my list, and some image hero certainly wasn't going to change that. i took your's and a few other's words for it, and i'll be damned if it's not one the best books on the stands today. i should've known, too. it's simple math really: kirkman + young hero = greatness. it never fails.
i have faith in the movie. cooke's on board as an art director/producer/storyboarder/, or whatever his title is. as long as he's involved, i'm not sweating it. and bruce timm has yet to let me down, as well.
i think dc should look at this as an oppurtunity to really blow marvel out the water in terms of dtv films. the source material alone is 100 times better than anything marvel's had to work with lately.
Yeah, we come fans are a hard breed sometimes, or at least some of us.