terry78
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I mean, by the rules of action franchises, he still has to meet his kid, so...
I mean, by the rules of action franchises, he still has to meet his kid, so...
More specifically the kid goes into the spy business and his dad needs to come out of retirement to save him.I mean, by the rules of action franchises, he still has to meet his kid, so...
Legacy was terrible and JB was a letdown (though Damon was badass in it). I like the character but I feel like the last movie proved that the series had nowhere else to go. It felt like they were just checking off boxes for your typical action movie:
- Family member killed, which is why the hero volunteers
- Previous love interest killed to clear the way for new female lead
- Hero gets lured back by old agency, only to find out they killed his dad in the first place
- Insane car chase
- Hero gets revenge.
It's a gritty voyeuristic spy thriller franchise. Theres plenty of places to go with it. They just havent bothered to try.Legacy was terrible and JB was a letdown (though Damon was badass in it). I like the character but I feel like the last movie proved that the series had nowhere else to go. It felt like they were just checking off boxes for your typical action movie:
- Family member killed, which is why the hero volunteers
- Previous love interest killed to clear the way for new female lead
- Hero gets lured back by old agency, only to find out they killed his dad in the first place
- Insane car chase
- Hero gets revenge.
It's a gritty voyeuristic spy thriller franchise. Theres plenty of places to go with it. They just havent bothered to try.
The last one left me thinking they should finally bring Jason in from the cold. I thought they were setting Vikander up to be a genuine ally in the CIA and in the next film they could have him for once work with the CIA under a new administration. Make the big bad a foreign organization or paramilitary organization.
One thing that really bothered me personally, was the lack of mentioning of Landy. After the way it ended for her at the end of Legacy, her fate was sort of left up in the air. I would've liked some sort of addressing to her, as she played such a big part in the series. Even if it was just a passing comment.
One thing that really bothered me personally, was the lack of mentioning of Landy. After the way it ended for her at the end of Legacy, her fate was sort of left up in the air. I would've liked some sort of addressing to her, as she played such a big part in the series. Even if it was just a passing comment.
Yeah that was particularly glaring, but it was pretty obvious the writers for JB weren’t interested in female characters. Even Vikander’s character was kinda meh.
Landy was one of the best additions to the franchise, especially considering they wrote out Franka Potente/Marie Kreutz, which always irked me. They basically fridged her. Damon and Potente had such great chemistry in the original film. I was really drawn to that relationship.
No disrespect to Julia Stiles, I never liked that they replaced Marie with her character. They constantly danced around Nikki/Bourne likely being an item of some sort while he was an assassin. But they never got together in the films. I think mainly because Bourne/Nikki doesn't work and there's no romantic chemistry there at all.
Like Landy became a genuine ally for Bourne, shared the same goals, and wanted to expose the illicit activities of her own government. And then Legacy turns around and basically reverses Ultimatum and now she's on the hook for leaking the Treadstone/Blackbriar docs. Not to mention Joan Allen is a tremendous actress and has great commanding screen presence. She starts off as the Bourne Supremacy version of Conklin but unlike Conklin, she actually has a moral compass and a conscious.
Yeah, the way they fridged Franka was really s****y; Supremacy is great otherwise but I hated what they did with her because, like you said, she had great chemistry with Damon and was a really good female lead.
I always hoped Franka would catch on more with U.S. audiences. Run Lola Run is still one of my favorite movies and she’s been awesome in other stuff like The Bridge, Taboo and Claws (even if those shows were all kind of a mixed bag).
That's my point. They had the perfect set up to do something different and I thought they were going to do it and then in the last 5 minutes did a 180 and turned Vikander into just another opportunistic stupid CIA *****e.That would be a direct contradiction to the ending of Jason Bourne. It would basically make him into Jack Bauer.
The ending of the last movie showed he didn't trust Vikander's character and he isn't going to allow her to manipulate him as she attempted to do and he's not going to go in to work for her and be her asset.