Rise of the Silver Surfer BOX OFFICE Discussion

[Hiruu]

WOW...FF2 is fading FAST...much of it seems to be thick competition, and in hindsight, filling the dead space in late July, early August dosn't seem so bad, heck...maybe even shoot for April or September, in order to escape the buzzsaw of this summer. Friday's number is terrible folk...it's better than hulk, but that's it...The movie might catch Hulk this coming week, with the holiday, but that'll be a result of spillage from Transformer, and Rat movie (which is ho-hum on numbers, but $200 isn't outta the question for Pixar). Marvel needs to consider this and be careful to place Hulk well next year. Iron Man is well positioned, but if June looks as deadly as it is this month...WATCH OUT. On Transformers...it's running like made from Harry Potter, but It's going to et hurt by Rat Movie and Die Hard, and the possible second sleeper of the summer...1408. Saw that last night, and it's a GOOD flick.

 

[DyeLorean]

This movie deserves a little more attention. The companies shouldn't release everything together.

D!

 

[The Apatow Crew]

Tell me you're not referring to Ratatouille.

Why not? Its true kids see anything now with a talking animal. It could be a cockroache and little kids will get that crap up.


I'm just about sick of talking animals all together.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

If it ain't about a fairy tale like princess then it's talking animals. Been that way since the beginning. Iron Giant is out of the mold and look how it did unfortunately.

 

[DyeLorean]

Why not? Its true kids see anything now with a talking animal. It could be a cockroache and little kids will get that crap up.


I'm just about sick of talking animals/

True, me too. The talking animals trick is getting old.
But Pixar are the creators of this with 'A Bug's Tale', and is the only animated studio that caughts my attention every time and gets my respect.
After that movie with Jim Carrey and Steve Carrell coming soon, I hope they'll stop with the talking animals animated movies.

D!

 

[Malus]

Why not? Its true kids see anything now with a talking animal. It could be a cockroache and little kids will get that crap up.I'm just about sick of talking animals/

"Get that crap up?"
Sounds like when I tell my kids to clean their rooms. t:

Ratatouille is (in my opinion, and apparently 95% of critics' opinions) head and shoulders above all the various anthropomorphic toons of the last few years. My kids enjoyed it much more than FF2, Spidey 3 or Pirates 3, and so did I.
Talking animals is a tradition almost as old as cinema itself. Steamboat Willie (first "Mickey Mouse") pre-dates Superman by almost five years.
Not every anthropomorphic film is brainless, just as every superhero film isn't Catwoman.

 

[Malus]

After that movie with Jim Carrey and Steve Carrell coming soon, I hope they'll stop with the talking animals animated movies.

We'll see the end of superheroes looong before that.

 

[Malus]

If it ain't about a fairy tale like princess then it's talking animals. Been that way since the beginning. Iron Giant is out of the mold and look how it did unfortunately.

Time is already being kind to Iron Giant, though.
20 years from now, it will be considered a true classic.

Plenty of animated classics were flops initially. Fantasia springs to mind.

 

[chaseter]

Well I went and saw it again today...loved it even better than the first time so chalk up some more moolah for the box office. As for the talking animal movies...yes they are getting old. Pretty soon they will have used all the cute animals and will be down to the microscopic organisms. I also hate the fact that once one animal movie does good...God every studio makes one and they all suck. I also hate how the Ratitoulle or whoever you spell it commercials all start off with "From the makers of Incredibles, etc...etc...comes a new movie. But I haven't seen it yet so I won't say it sucked but all the animal movies are getting old and all the rip-offs are getting on my nerves even more.

 

[Spade]

Iron Giant...now there's a film that can make me tear up. I try to be manly when I get up to the ending, but that never works.

 

[Agent 194]

"Get that crap up?"
Sounds like when I tell my kids to clean their rooms. t:

Ratatouille is (in my opinion, and apparently 95% of critics' opinions) head and shoulders above all the various anthropomorphic toons of the last few years. My kids enjoyed it much more than FF2, Spidey 3 or Pirates 3, and so did I.
Talking animals is a tradition almost as old as cinema itself. Steamboat Willie (first "Mickey Mouse") pre-dates Superman by almost five years.
Not every anthropomorphic film is brainless, just as every superhero film isn't Catwoman.

Saw Ratatouille today. I was on the Pixar band wagon even before the first Toy Story. My personal favorite, which is the least successful, was A Bug's Life. Great team of people.

Ratatouille---great looking movie. Have to admit I didn't care about these characters or this world (other than the food) as much as I have past Pixar movies. I'd like to see John Lasseter back in the directors chair. As good as Brad Bird is I still think not giving any credit, whether in print or otherwise, to all the sources he called upon in Incredibles says something about him to me. Then there's the catty things he said about Randy Newman's music. Newman- the man who got them where they were until that point.

Having said all that Pixar is hands down the animation company to beat. They don't do dumbed down gastrointestinal humor like the Dreamworks of the world. Shrek. Blech. They also don't do all the topical this minute, forgotten tomorrow basal material that Dreamworks is dependent on. They are quality. I've said all along...I'd love to see them do a Fantastic Four movie.

Now talk about box office potential.

 

[Carp Man]

THE word is W R O N G......................W R O N G

W R O N G​

WHO CARES ? Since I see I don't have my sig back yet, see ya.

 

[The Kid]

We call you a Carpy around here......lmao.

Wooooooooooooooooo hooooooooooooo

So how is alba in this? was she in her undies again? Best part of the last flick.

 

[Malus]

As good as Brad Bird is I still think not giving any credit, whether in print or otherwise, to all the sources he called upon in Incredibles says something about him to me. Then there's the catty things he said about Randy Newman's music. Newman- the man who got them where they were until that point.

Brad Bird was bad-mouthing Randy Newman? What an ignoramus. When was this?
Not that Incredibles or Ratatouille needed any contributions from Newman.
I'm kinda glad they didn't. But if Bird was intentionally knocking Newman's work, he's a bigger jackass than i thought.

 

[Spade]

Wooooooooooooooooo hooooooooooooo

So how is alba in this? was she in her undies again? Best part of the last flick.

She is naked once she loses Johnny's flame powers after the power switching is reversed, if you want to know (which I don't). As for her acting? Much better than the first one. She doesn't play Susan up as an super-b**** in this movie, and her temporary death (while pointless) is somewhat touching. I liked her alot more here than in the first. She's not such a bad Sue Storm after all.

 

[Mr. Socko]

"Get that crap up?"
Sounds like when I tell my kids to clean their rooms. t:

Ratatouille is (in my opinion, and apparently 95% of critics' opinions) head and shoulders above all the various anthropomorphic toons of the last few years. My kids enjoyed it much more than FF2, Spidey 3 or Pirates 3, and so did I.
Talking animals is a tradition almost as old as cinema itself. Steamboat Willie (first "Mickey Mouse") pre-dates Superman by almost five years.
Not every anthropomorphic film is brainless, just as every superhero film isn't Catwoman.

Saw it today and completely agree! Ratatouille is by far the best film I've seen this summer.(plan on seeing Die Hard tomorrow)

 

[chaseter]

^Her death in this is not pointless...she dies to save Norrin. Whom then 'dies' to save Earth. Whom 'died/entered servitude' to save his love. Whom thinks his love looks like Susan. So it all came full circle...Plus Doom got to kill one of the Four.

 

[Mr. Socko]

^Her death in this is not pointless...she dies to save Norrin. Whom then 'dies' to save Earth. Whom 'died/entered servitude' to save his love. Whom thinks his love looks like Susan. So it all came full circle...Plus Doom got to kill one of the Four.

I liked the sacrificing themes, they were done well enough

 

[Advanced Dark]

Saw it today and completely agree! Ratatouille is by far the best film I've seen this summer.(plan on seeing Die Hard tomorrow)

It's one of the worst openings for Pixar too. This whole Summer's boxoffice was over estimated.

 

[Mr. Socko]

It's one of the worst openings for Pixar too. This whole Summer's boxoffice was over estimated.

Nooooooz!


I wouldnt say the whole summer, May did great

 

[Agent 194]

Brad Bird was bad-mouthing Randy Newman? What an ignoramus. When was this?
Not that Incredibles or Ratatouille needed any contributions from Newman.
I'm kinda glad they didn't. But if Bird was intentionally knocking Newman's work, he's a bigger jackass than i thought.

Yeah, it was in a Time magazine article. It was about The Incredibles before or right after it came out. He said something like "Oh God, not another Randy Newman Score and not another Randy Newman song." Now I believe he was saying he didn't want another you're my buddy and I love you even if the world is not always good to you song, which Newman does tend to put in each movie. However, to discount all the other great stuff he does is downright embarassing, ignorant and disrespectful of someone who was a valued team member of the Pixar Family. I'm convinced both Toy Story's and the other movies he did would not be the same without his music.

It again , goes to show the kind of person I think he is. Slightly classless, unappreciative and not willing to give credit where credit is due.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Nooooooz!


I wouldnt say the whole summer, May did great

May did great as a MONTH but all 3 major films pulled in much less than the prior films domstically. Spidey 3, Shrek 3, and Pirates 3 won't come close to the 1st sequels performance. Fortunately international is kicking ass.

 

[greenlantern530]

Wooooooooooooooooo hooooooooooooo

So how is alba in this? was she in her undies again? Best part of the last flick.

There's a scene where she has nothin on, but you cant see nothin.

 

[TheVileOne]

I'm sensing some bitterness over FF2's disappointing BO, and in the need to bury Brad Bird's fantastic work and Ratatouille as well. People clearly either took Bird's comment out of context or are simply exaggerating it in order to prove a silly, illegitimate point like some fans did with Kirsten Dunst.

Why movies are underforming overall this summer? Too many, too much too fast. Releasing Pirates 3, Shrek 3, and Spidey 3 all in the SAME MONTH just weeks after each other was ridiculous and a bad idea. Not to mention that a sequel has been released almost every week this summer. Sequel freaking overdrive is what it is.

To call Ratatouille just another stupid movie about talking animals is a disservice to the film and a bad way of generalizing. It's one of the few non-sequels and fresh, original movies of the year and this summer. I loved it. Giacchino's music was great.

I don't have anything against Randy Newman, but I agree that his Pixar scores were getting a little repetitive and tiresome after a while. I thought that Family Guy parody was pretty hilarious and about dead-on. Though even in that comment I don't see Bird outright insulting him.

Bird quite frankly makes some of the most classy animated features I've ever seen. Bird makes a movie about a rat wanting to be a fine dining chef have more class than Fantastic Four 2. It's true. The Incredibles is one of the classiest super hero movies in the history of cinema IMHO (and doesn't have any bad, disgusting product placement).

 

[Eros]

I'm sensing some bitterness over FF2's disappointing BO, and in the need to bury Brad Bird's fantastic work and Ratatouille as well. People clearly either took Bird's comment out of context or are simply exaggerating it in order to prove a silly, illegitimate point like some fans did with Kirsten Dunst.

Why movies are underforming overall this summer? Too many, too much too fast. Releasing Pirates 3, Shrek 3, and Spidey 3 all in the SAME MONTH just weeks after each other was ridiculous and a bad idea. Not to mention that a sequel has been released almost every week this summer. Sequel freaking overdrive is what it is.

To call Ratatouille just another stupid movie about talking animals is a disservice to the film and a bad way of generalizing. It's one of the few non-sequels and fresh, original movies of the year and this summer. I loved it. Giacchino's music was great.

I don't have anything against Randy Newman, but I agree that his Pixar scores were getting a little repetitive and tiresome after a while. I thought that Family Guy parody was pretty hilarious and about dead-on. Though even in that comment I don't see Bird outright insulting him.

Bird quite frankly makes some of the most classy animated features I've ever seen. Bird makes a movie about a rat wanting to be a fine dining chef have more class than Fantastic Four 2. It's true. The Incredibles is one of the classiest super hero movies in the history of cinema IMHO (and doesn't have any bad, disgusting product placement).

I agree man.