Ant-Man Box Office Predictions

[Spiderdevil]

See that's what I'm talking about product placement comes before the movie even is released why you act like you don't know that

Production placement revenues are rarely disclosed for any movie, which is why it would be better if we kept the discussion within box-office revenue

And 120dom at the boxoffice for antman he will be lucky to have home video sales of 40mil
Man of steel made 107mil your just trying to make me seem bias when I'm telling fact

'And 120dom' 'lucky to have home video sales of 40mil'
And then you say you are not trolling and just telling facts, are those facts? When did the definition of 'fact' change to 'making your own predictions'?

Even TIH made 70m from DVD sales, but sure Ant-man will be lucky to make 40M

And you didn't reply to your claiming that it hadn't attracted any females and Children

"This is a great start, albeit not as big as some people said it would be, and Marvel has once again successfully expanded its stable of characters in a way that makes its universe fresh," said Disney distribution chief Dave Hollis, noting that Ant-Man drew the largest share of families (28 percent) and women (32 percent) of any Marvel superhero title.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...-man-no-809752

You have already been proven wrong on the 'it didn't open no 1 in overseas market' when it did open no 1 in more than a dozen foreign countries, you have already been proven wrong in the 'it didn't attract any females and children' department, you have already been proven wrong in growth of overseas market point. How long before you admit you have no idea about what you are talking about?

 

[dalonewolf]

Production placement revenues are rarely disclosed for any movie, which is why it would be better if we kept the discussion within box-office revenue



'And 120dom' 'lucky to have home video sales of 40mil'
And then you say you are not trolling and just telling facts, are those facts? When did the definition of 'fact' change to 'making your own predictions'?

And you didn't reply to your claiming that it hadn't attracted any females and Children



http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...-man-no-809752

You have already been proven wrong on the 'it didn't open no 1 in overseas market' when it did open no 1 in more than a dozen foreign countries, you have already been proven wrong in the 'it didn't attract any females and children' department, you have already been proven wrong in growth of overseas market point. How long before you admit you have no idea about what you are talking about?

Movies don't mention thier product placement becausethey usually don't make 170mil in doing so .Man of steel made history with its product placement no movie has made more or even close to it.
But whatever of you say 130 and 400 ww is ok that's fine But I say the audience just wasn't into ant man this weekend like everyone was hoping. We all want comic book movies to be successful to keep it going the last thing we want is for studios to start putting them on the back burner
I think this will be the least dom grossing cbm since the wolverine
Like I said those days at marvel is suppose to be over .
They dont need to loose the American crowd right now with the line up of movies they have coming out in the next 2 years .
all are very important and this movie for critical for civil war because it's after credit scene was a very good refrence for those who saw it.

 

[Tony Stark]

Dude stop being bias if one movie had 3 days to gain you can't compare it to a movie that's had 4 days to gain the Thursdays gives the movie extra time to earn more money it's not for those who wants to avoid the crowd on friday-sun this isn't Christmas shopping
This is boxoffice .as many post you have posted I would think you'll be more understanding about box office and how it works
But just in case you don't understand
Ant man had a 6.4mil Thursdays you really can't compare it to hulk and green lantern which is why boxoffice mojo is comparing it to thor the dark world because it's not fair to do so with a flim that was released in 2011 because the market is extremely diffrent then it was
If it was fair to compare it to 2011 flims then bom would have compared it to marvel phase 1 flims and not the phase 2

Box office mojo compared it to several films including Cap TFA and Thor 1 because it's in a similar standing. And you still don't get that the PREVIEW showings are counted with the weekend because those are simply people that would have either saw it at a midnight showing (which most theaters don't do after the Aurora tragedy) or sometime over opening weekend. It's not extra people that go see the show.

You're sitting here screaming about Man of Steel which took in about 15M or so, in presold tickets to Walmart that they gave away to employees and theaters were not filled, and that counted toward their weekend totals.

But it's clear you came here to just pull the DC vs Marvel trolling, so congrats on making a spectacle of yourself.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Can we (as in dalonewolf) stop bringing up Man of Steel every single post? If you want to talk about that movie, put it in the appropriate forum. Also, what is with the mangling of basic punctuation, grammar, and the English language today? I've seen 3rd graders with better writing skills.

 

[dalonewolf]

Oh ya, a stand-alone Ant-Man from an obscure director with no ties to the film universe they built would have done even better. On what planet?

I think he mainly wanted it to stand alone because he didn't know how the audience was gonna draw to it.The end of phase 2 is important for phase 3 and like I said at that point you can't lose the audience.

 

[Spiderdevil]

But whatever of you say 130 and 400 ww is ok that's fine But I say the audience just wasn't into ant man this weekend like everyone was hoping. We all want comic book movies to be successful to keep it going the last thing we want is for studios to start putting then on the back burner

Again you have dodged the fact that it attracted the most female and children crowd among all of Marvel releases, when you claimed they weren't interested
You keep making ridiculous claims then dodge them when they are proven wrong

I think this will be the least dom grossing cbm since the wolverine
Like I said those days at marvel is suppose to be over .

Its also the cheapest CBM since the Wolverine

 

[dalonewolf]

Can we (as in dalonewolf) stop bringing up Man of Steel every single post? If you want to talk about that movie, put it in the appropriate forum. Also, what is with the mangling of basic punctuation, grammar, and the English language today? I've seen 3rd graders with better writing skills.

Omg I didn't bring it up Lmao
I was talkimg about antman and one of you brought it up its like you guys are trolling me I swear you can cleary read where I responded not make it a subject
And I'm on a damn cell phone in not gonna give you a perfect paragraph
And it has bad auto correct with that being said this isn't a resumé

 

[GL's Light]

Its also the cheapest CBM since the Wolverine

Among big Marvel superhero films, yes, but not among CBMs in general.

 

[TheVileOne]

Kick-Ass and Kick-Ass 2, both films based on comic books, were made for only about $30 million each.

Sin City 2, based on the comics by Frank Miller, cost $65 million.

Hardly the cheapest comic book movie since Wolverine.

 

[dalonewolf]

Again you have dodged the fact that it attracted the most female and children crowd among all of Marvel releases, when you claimed they weren't interested
You keep making ridiculous claims then dodge them when they are proven wrong


Its also the cheapest CBM since the Wolverine

If they were so interested what did exactly go see this weekend?
If that's was true minions would have had more of a 60-62% drop rather than a 57%drop
Gotg made its own crowd even grandmothers wanted to see that movie.
Antman not so much

 

[GL's Light]

From Variety:

‘Ant-Man’ Shows Power and Limits of Marvel Brand

“Ant-Man” demonstrates both the power of the Marvel brand and what can hold it back.

The film’s $58 million debut would have been a strong start for nearly any other company, but for Marvel, which has fielded a dizzying number of blockbusters, it is something of a disappointment. “Ant-Man’s” opening ranks below the numbers that films centering on Captain America, Thor and Iron Man put up during their launches. More importantly, it failed to top the $60 million domestically that most analysts predicted it would make this weekend.

There is a crucial difference, however, between “Ant-Man” and other superhero movies. In the Marvel universe, Ant-Man is more of a utility player than star attraction. Given the dubious pedigree, it’s doubtful that many other companies could have made a movie about a man with the powers of a household pest and enjoyed stronger results.

“The media expects a lot, maybe too much, from Marvel movies,” said Jeff Bock, an analyst with Exhibitor Relations. “This is not a B-list character. It’s barely even a C-list one. It’s a comicbook that hardly anybody collected.”

Executives at Disney, Marvel’s parent company, admitted that they would have liked a bigger number, but tried to accentuate the positive, noting that Ant-Man was, in their words, “an obscure character.”

The film, which is noticeably lighter in tone, was intended to bring in younger audiences, Disney distribution chief Dave Hollis argued. “We were able to successfully launch a new character and to do so in a way that expands the audience of who is coming to see our movies,” he said. “In the long run, that’s of overwhelming value.”

What’s more troubling is that “Ant-Man” shows that even with the strongest brand in comicbook movies behind it, audiences won’t show up to see just any costumed vigilante. Marvel may have felt emboldened by the success of “Guardians of the Galaxy,” which took marginal figures and fashioned them into film stars, but James Gunn’s pop culture-infused direction helped elevate that material. There simply wasn’t enough to distinguish “Ant-Man” from the onslaught of origin stories and superhero films.

Standing out from the pack will only get harder. In the coming years, Marvel is delving deeper into the comicbook archive, backing movies based on more obscure heroes like Black Panther and Doctor Strange.

At the same time, the studios it licenses its characters to, such as Fox and Sony, plan to raid the recesses of the X-Men and Spider-Man universes to produce movies based on niche figures like Deadpool and Venom. That’s to say nothing of DC Comics, which is about to embark on its own ambitious cavalcade of superhero movies with the 2016 releases of “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice” and “Suicide Squad.” All these movies will beget an endless array of spinoffs, prequels and crossover films, testing enthusiasm for the genre. It’s a slate that has the Comic-Con crowd in a state of euphoria, but the rest of the public, not versed in the fruits of Stan Lee’s off-days, may need convincing.

“This sends a clear message to Marvel that they need to up the stakes a little bit,” said Bock. “This was a solid film, but it was also on a little bit of cruise control. They should have had a cameo from Iron Man or something to up the ante.”

 

[Spiderdevil]

Hmm you are right, but then again it won't be lowest grossing CBM since the Wolverine either, Sin City 2 made just 13m domestic

 

[Spiderdevil]

If they were so interested what did exactly go see this weekend?
If that's was true minions would have had more of a 60-62% drop rather than a 57%drop
Gotg made its own crowd even grandmothers wanted to see that movie.
Antman not so much

GoGT was an unprecedented success, you can't expect every movie to be a GoGT

Plus GoGT had a budget of 200M (235M if you don't substract tax rebate), meaning proportionately higher marketing budget too and it opened at 94m, so it had a opening weekend/ Budget ratio of 0.47 compared to Ant-man's 0.45, so Ant Man is actually doing comparatively decently to GoGT when you factor in the budget, we just can't compare it with recent release like GoGT and TWS since they had a budget 35-55% more than Ant-man, it would be ridiculous to expect a 130m movie to open similar to a 200m movie, that's like asking Fantastic Four to do aswell as DoFP, or Suicide Squad to do as well as BvS will do

Either way you have been proven wrong about women and children not being interested

 

[Whiskey Tango]

"They should have had a cameo from Iron Man or something to up the ante.”

Why, so people could ***** about how gratuitous it was?

 

[JtheDreamer]

I think he mainly wanted it to stand alone because he didn't know how the audience was gonna draw to it.The end of phase 2 is important for phase 3 and like I said at that point you can't lose the audience.

Now they're in danger of losing their audience? lolololololololololol

 

[TeeKay]

"They should have had a cameo from Iron Man or something to up the ante.”

Why, so people could ***** about how gratuitous it was?

Considering how some people are hitching about [blackout]Falcons[/blackout] cameo, they would complaining about how over exposed IM is lol

 

[dalonewolf]

GoGT was an unprecedented success, you can't expect every movie to be a GoGT

Either way you have been proven wrong about women and children not being interested

My expression of winning the kids and women over are 100o.w's
Get it????

 

[dalonewolf]

Considering how some people are hitching about [blackout]Falcons[/blackout] cameo, they would complaining about how over exposed IM is lol

Loved that's cameo/part
Best part of the movie to me kinda like ant man vs ?????
Cool scene just wish they used him more

 

[DJ Kornphlake]

"They should have had a cameo from Iron Man or something to up the ante.”

Why, so people could ***** about how gratuitous it was?

The statement gets even sillier when you consider RDJ's single scene got thrown into the marketing for The Incredible Hulk, a movie that had almost the same opening box office weekend numbers as this one.

 

[Spiderdevil]

My expression of winning the kids and women over are 100o.w's
Get it????

So GoGT didn't win over the kids either?

I edited my previous post

GoGT had a budget of 200M (235M if you don't substract tax rebate), meaning proportionately higher marketing budget too and it opened at 94m, so it had a opening weekend/ Budget ratio of 0.47 compared to Ant-man's 0.45, so Ant Man is actually doing comparatively decently to GoGT when you factor in the budget, we just can't compare it with recent release like GoGT and TWS since they had a budget 35-55% more than Ant-man, it would be ridiculous to expect a 130m movie to open similar to a 200m movie, that's like asking Fantastic Four to do aswell as DoFP, or Suicide Squad to do as well as BvS will do

 

[dalonewolf]

Now they're in danger of losing their audience? lolololololololololol

Yes they are marvel has been winning over the audience for the last 5 years most of thoer movies was number 1 for weeks to come
Gotg lost one wee but regained the following but for the most part they maintain their spot for a 3-4 weeks
I can't remember how many times age of ultron was but
Know one is talking about the movie anymore and this one will soon be forgotten as well by next week everyone still will be taking about minoins instead
People are mostly strong about a marvel release its almost like nobody showed up only your typical comic book fan .when marvel normally pulls in a much bigger crowd
For this movie to make as much as a phase one flim is very dissapointing no matter how you cut it
Why???
BECAUSE MARVEL WASN'T REALLY MAKING MONEY IN PHASE ONE LIKE THEY ARE IN PHASE TWO
There's is no freaking way captain 1 and hulk 2 should ever be compared to a phase flim

 

[dalonewolf]

So GoGT didn't win over the kids either?

I edited my previous post

GoGT had a budget of 200M (235M if you don't substract tax rebate), meaning proportionately higher marketing budget too and it opened at 94m, so it had a opening weekend/ Budget ratio of 0.47 compared to Ant-man's 0.45, so Ant Man is actually doing comparatively decently to GoGT when you factor in the budget, we just can't compare it with recent release like GoGT and TWS since they had a budget 35-55% more than Ant-man, it would be ridiculous to expect a 130m movie to open similar to a 200m movie, that's like asking Fantastic Four to do aswell as DoFP, or Suicide Squad to do as well as BvS will do

Omg that's my point gotg did which is why it opened to 94mil that's close enough for an unheard property/comic antman shouldn't have came no less than 75mil
It's marvel just a fewon the ago yo in all was saying how no marvel movie will ever gross this low now all of sudden it's ok
Hypocrites

 

[Creo]

Wait. Are you saying AoU's Quicksilver was used as a plot device? If so then X-Men's version was literally the definition of a plot device in DofP

No I was saying that about DoFP Quicksilver. I enjoyed him in AoU, I don't like much of anything about DoFP.

 

[dalonewolf]

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/ant-man-box-office-marvel-1201543684/
Here's my point

 

[Spiderdevil]

Omg that's my point gotg did which is why it opened to 94mil that's close enough for an unheard property/comic antman shouldn't have came no less than 75mil
It's marvel just a fewon the ago yo in all was saying how no marvel movie will ever gross this low now all of sudden it's ok
Hypocrites

How can you expect a 130m movie and 200m movie to open similarly? I posted the opening weekend/budget ratio, its 0.47 compared to 0.45 so they opened similarly when comparing the budget