Breaking News! Moammar Gadhafi Has Been Killed!

[craigdbfan]

Except for Bin Laden apparently.

 

[DACrowe]

Actually that's been done away with. That was one of the things the Obama Administration changed early in 2009. However, I think I've only seen three news cycles since that have shown caskets going home (one after that was changed, one after Obama increased troop numbers in Afghanistan in 2009 and one more time in May around the time Bin Laden was killed).

Still, the media can show that now. But they choose not to.

 

[craigdbfan]

Video just released of moments before Gaddafi died still very much alive and moving and looking very much confused.

Sort of chilling. Moments after he is dead, its not very clear how he went from still alive to just dropping dead.

Someone probably just finished him off.

EDIT: It's being shown on CNN.

 

[bell110]

My statement was kind of rhetorical. I don't mind looking at dead bodies. It just feels like the idea is "they aren't like us, so it's ok to show them dead." I wonder how executions in this nation would be viewed if they were open to public viewing.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

That's been going on since 1989, when photos of Nicolai Ceaucescu and his wife after they were killed were shown.

That's being going on since 1945 when photos of Benito Mussolini after he was hung were shown

Also, since Normandy when photos of dead soldiers on Omaha beach were shown.

No, I mean since the Civil War when dead soldiers from Gettysburg and other battlegrounds were shown.

And caskets coming home can be shown. So I have no idea what bell was on about.

 

[Spade]

I've no clue why so many news outlets think this gives closure. Gaddafi was executed shortly after live capture. Should we call the rebels who killed him our allies? I'd like to say "yes," but this is far from over.

 

[8wid]

Guts but no glory: Gaddafi images over-the-top


Sort of sums up my opinion completely.

 

[craigdbfan]

Yeah it was too much. Pretty disgusting. The point was overstated to the point where it just became into a live presentation of a sadistic execution.

Transparency is good but the constant repetition of all the angles was kind of a lot to take in. Hope they tone it down tomorrow and stop showing so much and get to the discussions to try and bring that region into relative peace.

For that to commence the images/videos should probably stop being so overly used by the MSM.

 

[obin_gam]

Too bad they killed him. Now he never gets to pay for his crimes :/

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Too bad they killed him. Now he never gets to pay for his crimes :/

I disagree. I can't imagine a more terrifying last few minutes on Earth for the once extravagant dictator than having his convoy hit with hellfire missiles, finding refuge in a sewage pipe, being dragged out by a giddy mob of the rebels he once derided as "rats", have them mock him and parade him around for photographs while he's bleeding out from bullet wounds and then finish him off with a last bullet to the head. I think it's actually good for the unity of the country that a long, drawn out trial and the opportunity for him to get on his soap-box was avoided. The Saddam Hussein trial became a bit of a fiasco at one point.

Speaking of which... man, Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden and now Moammar Gaddafi... all the boogeymen of my youth are dead. Who do I turn to now for my real-world supervillains? I guess Assad and Ahamdenijad are still out there. Hope they eventually meet the same fate.

 

[bell110]

That's being going on since 1945 when photos of Benito Mussolini after he was hung were shown

Also, since Normandy when photos of dead soldiers on Omaha beach were shown.

No, I mean since the Civil War when dead soldiers from Gettysburg and other battlegrounds were shown.

And caskets coming home can be shown. So I have no idea what bell was on about.

I didn't mean can't as in not allowed. I meant it as you're not supposed to. People get upset when the media shows caskets coming home because it's "disrespectful". But having Gadahfi's dead body being kicked around, eh, just put a warning on there.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

I didn't mean can't as in not allowed. I meant it as you're not supposed to. People get upset when the media shows caskets coming home because it's "disrespectful".

Maybe some do, but others see it as a powerful acknowledgement of human cost of war. Of course, pundits will come down on both sides of the argument (as they do on every issues).

But having Gadahfi's dead body being kicked around, ay, just put a warning on there.

I can't really blame the Libyans. If we had been ruled by an iron-fisted dictator for four decades and finally broke free of his reign and had an opportunity for revenge, I think Americans (or English or whatever country you may hail from) would react the same way. As for the news media showing the video. Some may find it squemish, but I'm for ultimate transparency. Unless it threatens national security, I don't think the media should censor anything. I want to emphasis that though... Unless it threatens national security. For those reasons, I understand why the Bin Laden pics were withheld. But I don't believe showing Gaddafi's body has the same effect, since he was killed by his own people and not "Western imperialists."

 

[bell110]

I'm for transparency too. I'm just pointing out the double standard. Plus, I believe bin Laden's pic should have been shown.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

I would like to see them, but I can understand why they would withhold them if they're worried about it being used as recruiting tool for attacks against US troops. I bet it will see the light of day within the next handful of years. A FISA inquest will probably uncover it if (at this point sadly, I should probably say "when") a Republican is elected to office next year.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Too bad they killed him. Now he never gets to pay for his crimes :/

If he was to go on trial in The Hague, Netherlands in front of the International Criminal Court, his trial would have most likely have taken years to complete. It'll take a few years before we know the verdict of the trials of Ratko Mladic and Radovan Karadzic (his trial has been going on since 2008). Hell, Slobodan Milosevic died before his court case was ever completed and that lasted four years. It's taken five years for the ICC to try former Liberian Leader Charles Taylor.

Taylor has been on trial in the Hague since 2006, which was five years ago. Even if Gadhafi had lived and stood trial in the Hague, he might be dead before his trial reached a conclusion.

 

[GhostPoet]

It's ironic they found him in the sewer. It's where he belonged all this time.

 

[mclay18]

An old 1980s sitcom predicted Gadhafi's death for July 29, 2011. It's two months late, but accurate nonetheless.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/10/the...ge-jon-stewart-hillary-clinton-matthew-perry/

 

[Marx]

UPDATE: GADHAFI WILL LIKELY BE BURIED TOMORROW
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/24/world/africa/libya-main/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

 

[hippie_hunter]

Apparently al-Gaddafi was sodomized with a knife as he was captured.

 

[Bathead]

Too Much Info.

 

[Marx]

Apparently al-Gaddafi was sodomized with a knife as he was captured.

...that makes those who captured him no better than Gadhafi himself. In my opinion.

 

[hippie_hunter]

...that makes those who captured him no better than Gadhafi himself. In my opinion.

Very true. But I can't help thinking that he kinda brought it upon himself, so my ability to care is greatly diminished.

 

[Marx]

I'm not defending Gadhafi in any way, I just think he could have been treated with more respect. There's a lot to be said for "taking the higher road".

 

[Marx]

UPDATE: GADHAFI BURIED AT UNDISCLOSED LOCATION ALONGSIDE SON
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/25/world/africa/libya-main/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

 

[L.A.]

Apparently al-Gaddafi was sodomized with a knife as he was captured.

I'm surprised Gadaffi let himself go out like this. He had to have known this is what they were going to do to him when he was caught. When he was in that sewer pipe, I'm surprised he didn't go out like Hitler and just take his own life. No one would blame him.