Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire

[Majik1387]

Fred and Wesley for me. Tara too, only because of the impact on Willow, cuz I didn't care much for Tara other than that.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

Here's a question for you guys, which main / regular character's death had the most emotional impact?

Out of
Buffy (Prophecy Girl)
Jenny Calender (Passion)
Angel (Becoming Pt 2)
Doyle (Hero)
Joyce Summers (I Was Made To Love You / The Body)
Buffy (The Gift)
Tara (Seeing Red)
Anya (Chosen)
Fred (A Hole In The World)
Wesley (Not Fade Away)

(Is there anyone I forgot?)

For me it was either Tara, Anya or Fred, Tara because of it's impact on Willow, Anya's death because I loved her lol, and Fred because of all the Pylea stuff, she'd only just got her life back, then bam she gets killed.

Jenny for how ruthless it was and the first death with a real impact in the series. Joyce because it reminds me of when my mom passed away. And Tara just casue it seems to come out of nowhere.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

The body is one of the most powerfully emotional experiences EVER caught on film imo... ive never seen a movie or any show that made me feel the way that episode did. so real, so raw

 

[Sawyer]

The body is one of the most powerfully emotional experiences EVER caught on film imo... ive never seen a movie or any show that made me feel the way that episode did. so real, so raw

One of the best episodes, IMO.

 

[KnightBat]

Doyle and Joyce.

 

[Sawyer]

Honestly, while I love The Body, Fred's death had the biggest effect on me, just because she was getting destroyed, slowly and painfully. Wes had to stand by and watch the love of his life die and know there was nothing he could do to stop it or to even ease her pain. Angel and Spike flew around the world to find out that the only way to save her was to kill tens, even hundreds of thousands of people, which Angel came close to doing. IMO, A Hole in the World was one of the best, if not the best episodes of the Buffyverse.

 

[Harlekin]

Doyle, Joyce and Wes.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

in order of most moving deaths... i'd say...

1) Joyce (it litterally made me sick to my stomach)
2) Fred (saddened me at losing such innocence)
3) Tara (just overall sad)
4) Wes
5) Anya (god i loved her, so sad to see her go)
6) Doyle
7) Jenny
8)angel
9) Buffy
10) Buffy

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Joyce and Fred for me. Joyce's death was the final symbol of Buffy's ascent to adulthood, and "The Body" captured it in such a raw, emotional fashion that you couldn't help being affected by it. Fred's death was just heartbreaking because it happened after the stars aligned and she and Wes were just starting to carve out their little oasis of happiness amidst the hell that was the Angel crew's employment at Wolfram & Hart. Basically, Fred's death was actually painful to me because I so didn't want it to happen.

A lot of my favorite characters died, including Wesley and Anya, but I can't really count them because they weren't emotionally affecting. They were quick, pointless deaths towards the end of each show that seemed to exist solely so Whedon could point to them and go, "See, when the show ended big things happened!"

 

[TheFuture]

Buffy (Prophecy Girl)
Jenny Calender (Passion)
Angel (Becoming Pt 2)
Doyle (Hero)
Joyce Summers (I Was Made To Love You / The Body)
Buffy (The Gift)
Tara (Seeing Red)
Anya (Chosen)
Fred (A Hole In The World)
Wesley (Not Fade Away)

 

[spideyboy_1111]

buffy's deaths don't effect me.. cuz you know not much will change, and you know she's coming back

 

[Captain_BluTac]

Except we didn't when the Season 1 finale aired we didn't know if a second season had been commissioned, and we definitly didn't know in The Gift, cus of the whole network crossover.

 

[Matt.S99]

Fred and Wesley for me. Tara too, only because of the impact on Willow, cuz I didn't care much for Tara other than that.

Tara was AWESOME!!!!!! they shoulda done more with her, i love Amber Benson :heart:

 

[spideyboy_1111]

well... i didnt watch it on air, but even if i didnt now, shows (at least back then) killed off there main character in the first season.

and buffy dying at the end of 5 would would have been a major let down of a last episode imo

 

[Darkly Dexter]

Damn, too many spoilers.

I will have to get the hell out of here.

 

[TheFuture]

well... i didnt watch it on air, but even if i didnt now, shows (at least back then) killed off there main character in the first season.

and buffy dying at the end of 5 would would have been a major let down of a last episode imo

It would have been bleak alright. But it was a very strong message- a Slayers gift is death itself. It was like Buffy had an epihany right there and it all made sense, she accepted her destiny. She gave the gift of life to her little sister through her own death, which as a Slayer, was inevitable in combat. I just felt that it was very nicely done.

Plus, i'm a guy, but Spike's reaction even had me blubbering

 

[amazingfantasy15]

Except we didn't when the Season 1 finale aired we didn't know if a second season had been commissioned, and we definitly didn't know in The Gift, cus of the whole network crossover.

But you knew at that point the show was coming back, just on UPN and that Sarah Michelle Gellar would still be on the show.

It's funny, I actually remember when that episode aired, my sister watched then, but I didn't (didn't start watching till after the whole series ended), I read some stuff about the series and moving networks, she didn't believe it. So after the episode she told me the series couldn't move to another network cause Buffy died. So maybe some people didn't know/want to believe about the network crossover

 

[Primal Slayer]

But a lot of people didnt read the articles of Buffys movement. Add to the fact that TheWB made it seem like the show would be gone for good didnt help any. Even I was confused at first.

 

[Harlekin]

Network crossovers always have a hint of uncertainty about them, since they're quite rare.

 

[Havok83]

But you knew at that point the show was coming back, just on UPN and that Sarah Michelle Gellar would still be on the show.

It's funny, I actually remember when that episode aired, my sister watched then, but I didn't (didn't start watching till after the whole series ended), I read some stuff about the series and moving networks, she didn't believe it. So after the episode she told me the series couldn't move to another network cause Buffy died. So maybe some people didn't know/want to believe about the network crossover

The WB promoted the episode as the Buffy series finale. It was pretty misleading as it was the series last episode on the WB, but not the last episode ever

Back to the topic, the best deaths for me were Fred's and Buffy's in The Gift

and buffy dying at the end of 5 would would have been a major let down of a last episode imo

IDA. The Gift would have made a PERFECT series finale. I felt it would have been better than Chosen. Ultimately a slayer's destiny is to die. Its the only way the slayer line can continue. What better way for Buffy to go out than to die heroicly? It was a very emotional and tough choice when she decided to sacrifice herself in order to save Dawn and the world. That whole season was about Buffy growing up and forcing her to step up and take responsibility. We were first introduced to her as an immature teen, but by the time The Gift came, she had changed dramaticly. That would have been a fitting ending to her story.

 

[TheFuture]

The WB promoted the episode as the Buffy series finale. It was pretty misleading as it was the series last episode on the WB, but not the last episode ever

Back to the topic, the best deaths for me were Fred's and Buffy's in The Gift
IDA. The Gift would have made a PERFECT series finale. I felt it would have been better than Chosen. Ultimately a slayer's destiny is to die. Its the only way the slayer line can continue. What better way for Buffy to go out than to die heroicly? It was a very emotional and tough choice when she decided to sacrifice herself in order to save Dawn and the world. That whole season was about Buffy growing up and forcing her to step up and take responsibility. We were first introduced to her as an immature teen, but by the time The Gift came, she had changed dramaticly. That would have been a fitting ending to her story.

Agreed. But I can see why Whedon went down the road that he did in "Chosen". Since for many people BtVS was about "female empowerment" it was a somewhat nice touch to send out the message that "every woman has a slayer within them, to fight back and to stand up". I preferred the message The Gift gave, maybe that's just because i'm a guy

 

[amazingfantasy15]

One thing I've been thinking about recently as I've been rewatching the series, why don't the vampires guard the graves of people they've recently turned. They know the Slayer is in town and usually on patrol in the cemetaries just waiting for these new vampires to rise. You'd think they'd guard the graves, try to protect these new vampires.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

One thing I've been thinking about recently as I've been rewatching the series, why don't the vampires guard the graves of people they've recently turned. They know the Slayer is in town and usually on patrol in the cemetaries just waiting for these new vampires to rise. You'd think they'd guard the graves, try to protect these new vampires.

i don't think the vamps really care

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, they don't strike me as the most nurturing bunch. It's basically every man for himself with most vampires.

 

[TheFuture]

Yeah, they don't strike me as the most nurturing bunch. It's basically every man for himself with most vampires.

To play devils advocate;

Drusilla nurtured Spike

Darla nurtured Angelus

The Master nurtured various vamps