Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel the Vampire

Which Was Your Favorite Season?

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If they were to do another live action series, I personally would want it to be about other slayers than Buffy and Faith, I don't know why, but I always found the other slayers fascinating.
 
Ok so this is random but i thought of the perfect way Angel should end sorta. My ideal length for what Angel should have been is 9 seasons.

On the 9th season the final battle is similar to the one that happened i n number 3.


Angel
Cordelia
Wesley
Gunn(who would be a vampire at this point)
Illyria
Lorne
Spike
Faith
Oz
Connor
Groo
Gwen

In a similar manner to Angel season 5 finale Angel tricks W&H into believing he submits to them. Angel lays out the plan to attack various people of The Circle of the Black Thorn. Added to the concept of the black thorn is a demonic leader whose power is on par with Glory's . He is the one who releases the army of demons from various dimensions to wreak havoc in LA. The gang eventually beats him and Angel taks over The LA division of Wolfram & Hart. The blow to the main demon who runs the LA branch takes out several blocks of LA and we see the remaining heroes rising up from the ashes of the destroyed city and angel makes a small speech to the remaining people of Angel Inc.

For beating the executives of The LA branch W&H award Angel the access to more power than what he had before. The final few moments of the episode would show a redone &H working to do good things instead of bad. We then see Angel walking down a hallway on the top floor of W&H with all of the members he lost on each sides of the wall leading up to his office. As he opens the door we see Buffy is sitting on the table looking out in the window and she continues to explain that she knows what hes done and is happy that he won the fight. She also says Giles along with other watchers is here too on behalf of The newly formed Watchers council and would like to merge to become a superpower organization that could have a chance against standing against the other branches of W&H and evil all over the world. Angel then adresses the lawyers of Wolfram & hart and the new changes that will be made.

The final scene is of Angel in a buisness meeting with Angel Inc and the BTVS gang and they briefly skim through some of the evil happenings going on in the work. And it ends with him expolaining to everyone what he expects of them and then with the infamous line "Lets go to Work guys"





The total death count

Cordelia-(Maybe)
Wesley
Vampire Gunn
Groo
Gwen



btw did anyone feel that that senator lady that unn killed in the final season was oddly similar to Hillary Clinton?
 
That kinda flies in the face of everything the fifth season was about in the first place.
 
I sorta felt that way as well till the series finale. One thing I never cared for was the Cordelia getting pregnant by Connor thing.
 
Angel and Wolfram & Hart don't mix.

True but the whole season was basically about them changing from the inside out, which is why he even took the job in the first place.


I sorta felt that way as well till the series finale. One thing I never cared for was the Cordelia getting pregnant by Connor thing.

You should read my alternative a few posts back and tell me what you think of that. :grin:
 
True but the whole season was basically about them changing from the inside out, which is why he even took the job in the first place.

Yeah. But the point was they couldn't. The system was too corrupted, and they'd all become just another set of the Senior Partners' hapless pawns.
 
Yeah. But the point was they couldn't. The system was too corrupted, and they'd all become just another set of the Senior Partners' hapless pawns.

So then there was no point for them to attack like they did the various members of the Black Thorn like they did.
 
Rewatch the final two episodes. Angel makes it pretty clear what's it all about when the gang confronts him.

You can't change W&H but you can sure **** some stuff up for them.
 
If they were to do another live action series, I personally would want it to be about other slayers than Buffy and Faith, I don't know why, but I always found the other slayers fascinating.

They could always go the route of JLU.

Since the world is opened up with new slayers and watchers and such, we could focus more on the newbies and have the older characters coming into more of a mentor role. Faith and Buffy could have episodes where they're the focus but not often.

I couldn't see a new show being created and not including the old scoobies at all. it would just be weird.
 
A Faith seres would have rocked. To bad Eliza went to do Tru Callings on Fox, which cancelled that series way too soon
 
They could always go the route of JLU.

Since the world is opened up with new slayers and watchers and such, we could focus more on the newbies and have the older characters coming into more of a mentor role. Faith and Buffy could have episodes where they're the focus but not often.

I couldn't see a new show being created and not including the old scoobies at all. it would just be weird.

Yea it would be nice if they were like the justice league.they would have a nice little group too

My ideal list of the Buffyverse Justice League

Buffy
Xander
Willow
Giles
Dawn
Robin Wood
Faith
Andrew
Angel
Cordelia
Connor
Lorne
Illyria
Spike
Oz

with government ties to Riley and the government
 
throw in gru and a living anya and you pretty much have the whole entire main cast of angel/uggy anyway... might as well throw gwen in too
 
I'd really, really, really love to see Angel's group and the Slayers actually come into full-blown conflict. It'd be pretty tough now, but if the series were allowed to continue with Angel in charge of Wolfram & Hart, that would've been nice. I was always a bit disappointed that the only interaction between the groups that we saw was through Andrew.
 
I'd really, really, really love to see Angel's group and the Slayers actually come into full-blown conflict. It'd be pretty tough now, but if the series were allowed to continue with Angel in charge of Wolfram & Hart, that would've been nice. I was always a bit disappointed that the only interaction between the groups that we saw was through Andrew.

That's a shame too. The episode with the crazy slayer was initially going to have Dawn appear instead of Andrew. It's a shame Michelle wasn't available at the time. Andrew bothers me.
 
I thought Andrew did pretty well in the episode, actually. I loved how he put on a whole James Bond song and dance to impress Spike and Angel, when you know he's really just the Slayer organization's butt-monkey (to borrow Xander's phrasing). :)
 
I`m looking forward to seeing James Marsters (Spike) play Piccolo in the Dragonball movie
 
That's a shame too. The episode with the crazy slayer was initially going to have Dawn appear instead of Andrew. It's a shame Michelle wasn't available at the time. Andrew bothers me.
Nah, it was always going to be Andrew. They wanted to use Dawn for The Girl in Question.
 
I sorta felt that way as well till the series finale. One thing I never cared for was the Cordelia getting pregnant by Connor thing.
Ugh, I hated that, but it wasnt really Cordy anyways(last i can remember, i might be wrong)

And im sooooo happy I found a Tara figure! Shes so hard to find over here! Ive been looking for it for 2 years almost. I :heart: Tara
 
My Buffyverse Justice League

Post Buffy Season 8and Angel Season 6

Buffy
Faith
Angel
Spike
Willow
Illyria
Oz


Dawn would continue her schooling in England with Giles as her guardian as he starts up a new Watchers council.

Andrew would be the comic relief and asist with Giles.
 
Is/Will Dawn ever get shrunk back to normal size?
 
Is/Will Dawn ever get shrunk back to normal size?

So far she hasn't returned to normal size. But I'd say she will.
I hate this storyline I feel its a blatant excuse to add in what the show's budget never could allow....and is done so in a very lame way. Funny enough though esp the Mecha-Dawn although that didn't feel very "Buffy"
 
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So in the comics is Gunn a vampire? And did everyone from the angel finale survive? Its hard enough to be bothered with them with Wesley being dead, but if there is no Spike or Illyria I know for sure I wont even make an attempt.
 
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