Burton/Schumacher's Batman vs Christopher Nolan's Batman

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Burton/Schumacher's Batman vs Christopher Nolan's Batman

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  1. BH/HHH You Are My World

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    Nolan's for me, Batman .begins is my favourite Batman film, followed very closely by The Dark Knight. I do prefer Batman '89 to The Dark Knight Rises though but that is miles better than Batman Returns, Batman Forever and (quite possibly the worst film ever made) Batman & Robin. I do like Forever though and I used to love Returns but the dialogue in that film makes it unbearable to watch these days.
     
  2. BH/HHH You Are My World

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    I love this post, gonna hit you back with some responses

    Can't disagree with this it's superb especially the main theme. I will say though that I think the Dark Knight Returns animated films score comes very close to Elfman's in my opinion.

    I do love the Tumbler but again I agree the Burton Batmobile is my favourite. However, watching Burtons films I never actually believed the car could move so fast unlike the Tumbler.

    The one in Returns was better than the one in '89 and that one had the best cowl but I prefer the Begins suit, it looked less rubbery and I always prefer the black bat symbol over the yellow oval

    I never bought into the Burton or Schumachers caves, they always looked like giant toys to me, the cave in Nolan's looks like a real cave and I much prefer that.

    While I still think Keaton's I'm Batman scene is still the best self declaration scene in any superhero movie I thought Bale was the better Batman, believing he can do the things he does is important to me. Even though I loved Keaton I always felt he wasn't as good when he wasn't using his toys. Bale's Batman voice only got silly in the Dark Knight and I truly believe that was due to the change in cowl. Still you wouldn't believe he was Bruce Wayne would you? :cwink:

    I think you like the fantasy element and that makes sense as its more like the comic book. Only problem I have in Burtons films is everything looks like a set whereas in Nolan's it looks like a real city. I actually think Begins did it best, it had that darkness to it that still felt comic book.

    Ahh gotta disagree again I love Jack Nicholson as the Joker but he played himself in Joker make up. Ledger transformed into the Joker fir me, the perma white stuff is unimportant in my opinion. The whole laughing gas stuff was just funny to me not scary in anyway but when Ledger had that knife to Michael Jai White's mouth I felt the tension.

    I half agree, I still feel '89 feels much like a Burton film but not as much as Returns. I feel only the second half of Begins feels like a true Batman film to me.


    I agree completely on Joe Chill, I didn't like the Joker been Wayne's parents killer but I get why they did it.

    Agree on the movie, were there problems with rights to Zorro?

    Actually that's one thing I don't think any Batman film has done very well, he's never felt like a detective to me.

    Agreed 100%

    Agreed mostly

    Batman the Animated Series will forever be my Batman :up:
     
  3. Kevin Smith Registered

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    This. :up:


    And now, begrudgingly...

    Yes, thanks for drinking the kool aid, EVERYONE! :up:

    Gee....well then that means you have no idea what you're talking about! Which means you have no place "arguing" then, or even feigning an argument.

    I'll take...D for Derp... :whatever:

    LOL go pay attention to my posts, then come back, jack. :word:

    Anno: "Alls I care about is my rigged election and damn anyone who wants to point that out! We're having Nolan smackdown over here, and I'm gonna make sure o' that, this here's my town, see? Don't bother wavin' a lantern at this d*ck ride train cuz it don' stop fer nuthin'! 'specially things like facts an' fairness!"

    :dry:
     
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  4. regwec Make Mine Marble

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    I wouldn't even describe it as 'unfair'; it is just a false and transparently dishonest exercise.

    You might as well ask, "who do you prefer, (a) Christipher Nolan or (b) Tim Burton and Uwe Boll?" Only the profoundly ignorant or the profoundly dishonest would draw such a tenuous link.
     
  5. hellblazer103 Nasty Piece of Work

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    I think the main reason he put burton and Schumacher together was because they're both technically supposed to be set in the same world. atleast batman forever was, not so sure about B & R.... I think people are going a bit overboard with this.
     
  6. Anno_Domini Registered

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    If the kool aid gives everyone the knowledge to know the truth, then I want more of that! :up:

    :lmao:

    Talking about not knowing what they're talking about when you're trying to say Burton's films and Schumacher's aren't connected.

    Yes, D for Derp indeed! :up:

    Pay attention to a silly notion of four films that aren't connected when they indeed are. No ****ing thank you dude! :up:

    You sound like a politician with trying so hard to make a point. You should run for office wherever you live.

    And you mean facts like Batman, Batman Returns, Batman Forever and Batman & Robin being in the same "world"...facts like that bud? :whatever:

    There is some common sense on this thread, that I am proud of :up:

    Yes, Burton's films and Schumacher's films are in the same world. Because one prefers one director over the other, they try not to remember that fact. Sad, really, but I guess if it helps them sleep at night.
     
  7. regwec Make Mine Marble

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    In which case you might as well put all the Batman movies together because they are in the same franchise. One director's creative control has no bearing on another's.

    Nobody in the fanbase conflates Burton's movies with Schumacher's. This poll is clearly intended to annoy fans of the former while producing some sort of hollow and pre-determined 'victory' for Nolan's.
     
  8. Anno_Domini Registered

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    Two things that are incredibly annoying to hear.

    'Nobody in the fanbase'....really? I own all four films on Blu-ray and I continue to say they are related and I hear the same all the time.

    And the other....really? My attempt to annoy the former? I don't think so. It's my attempt to compare the two series when Burton and Schumacher's films ARE connected.
     
  9. hellblazer103 Nasty Piece of Work

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    umm.... you clearly missed my point .

    it's a known fact that batman forever is meant to be a sequel to the burton films. just because it's a different director doesn't change that , and even so burton still was the producer for batman forever.

    obviously the Nolan films don't have anything to do with either of them .

    I didn't mean that they're related just because they're in the same franchise, but take it for what you will.
     
  10. Kevin Smith Registered

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    Well it doesn't. Haha! Obviously, you silly git, you! Obviously it's implied in my post that it does nothing of the sort and only a delusional would make that assumption!

    But then again, look at the title of this thread! :doh:



    But...they aren't. Certainly not directly if you can even say they are at all. The only way they're in any way, shape, or form "connected" to Burton's films is that you could argue they're used as something to point to and say "hey look! There have been two Batman movies! Now come look at ours since you guys know what Batman is!".

    Here you go:

    There ya go. I saved you the effort and linked you the parts you need to read, now if only I could read them for you. :BA


    Naw, dude, I was imitating you. Apparently you don't understand sarcasm, either. You would be the more ideal candidate anyway as you prefer a two party puppet system. :yay:


    Just for you:

    :woot:


    I'm going to let this gentleman handle it since I couldn't have said it better myself:

    There's your common sense, my friend.

    :up:

    But wait! There's more....

    Nobody....except Anno I guess. :wow:

    ^^ That pretty much hits the nail on the head. Are you reading this, Anno? :woot:
     
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  11. Kevin Smith Registered

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    The OP even include's Nolan's full name in the title over the others, LOL.
     
  12. batfreakforever A real fan

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    I own all four on vhs,bare bone dvds, bare bones box set, 2-disc special edition w/slip case for each, single edition blurays. They are connected. They also have a four-part doco spread over each film. Schumacher's version of bruce's parent's killer even looks alot like the young jack napier. Alfred & gordon are the same actor. Chase references catwoman, who was in the movie before. Produced by burton. Kilmer bruce talks about taking a life and getting revenge(on the joker) then going out to find another face then another. He doesnt want that for dick grayson with two-face. Gossip gerty (a reporter) is in batman returns aswell as batman forever. The trading card set for each sequel talks about batman previous movies villian then says can he defeat this one ie: mr freeze. They were promoted as sequels to burtons films in books, tradings cards, reviews etc. Yeah schumacher put his own spin on it but batman forever also went into pre-production with micheal keaton in mind to still play batman.
     
  13. batfreakforever A real fan

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    I can watch any batfilm and enjoy the hell out of it. **** I watched batman & robin last night and did'nt have a problem. Yeah people say it has problems but I don't look at movies that way. I either like it or I don't. It as simple as that. Who directs it does'nt mean a thing really to me. I love Nolan's films too. I'm an adult now and I like my batfilms to have abit of an edge to them but that doesnt mean I will **** on schumacher films because I'm older, no because I was the target age when those ficks came out and the kid me loved those films. Movies dont change, people do. But I also understand that the way things are done do change. I don't know how many times I've watched the nolan trilogy but just because they have improved things(thats subjective,i know) here and there in the films doesnt mean I will **** on an older movie version.
     
  14. Anno_Domini Registered

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    Kool aid that doesn't give you the enhancement of knowing the truth...well, that sucks. Don't want it now.

    I see you made a thread dividing all three directors, lol. I am glad you can sleep at night now knowing that you gave three choices...two of those are directors that worked on the same series, but, whatever floats your boat I guess? LOL.

    But...they are.

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    Well, look at that! Even the back describes it as the third film...well, I guess Warner Brothers is just wrong though because the great and almighty Kevin Smith is always right! :whatever:

    Skipped all over it again, haha.

    Nah, I prefer the truth actually...and the truth is...Batman Forever is a sequel to Batman Returns. Batman & Robin is a sequel to Batman Forever that was a sequel to Batman Returns, yay!

    Whoops, guess I overlooked it again.

    [​IMG]


    Hahaha, now you bring in this part for your argument.

    The laughs keep on coming!

    Of course all four films are in the same "world".

    Some hard headed posters just try to ignore the fact.
     

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