Cameron's "Avatar"

[Bunker]

Does anyone know if the new trailer is in front of Where the Wild Things Are?

Nope. I went last night hoping to see it in IMAX.

 

[FaT_tONle]

The value of unobtanium drastically outweighs the cost of sending a ship out to fetch it. It's like the diamond business. The people over here are making craploads of money while barely lifting a finger, but what about the people overseas who are slaving away every day to find the diamonds?

The CEOs sending the ships to Pandora probably live a life of luxury. One shipment of unobtanium funds their lives probably a trillion times over. So what's the cost of one shipride to them?

Maybe its called unobtanium because its supposed to be unobtainable. But if that's the case, it better be some source of near infinite energy for it to have to kind of value you are talking about. Hopefully the movie explains that. The only argument I have is that the technology won't get us there for at least another 1000 years. It shouldn't be because, "Looks like the Middle East finally ran out of oil, time to head to Alpha Centauri." There's plenty of **** in the solar system that can get us by.

 

[BlackLantern]

the term "unobtanium" was used in "The Core" to describe the material used to build the ship that travelled to the earths core....is that what they call it in this film?

 

[Dark Victory]

Yes, I am. I'm sure in 150 years, nothing about our conquering nature will change, so the themes are still relevant.

Okay, sweet. Your last sentence summed by opinion perfectly.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Maybe Cameron just said "Da hell with making sense of the story" and just decided to go for a massive CGI fest. I am good either way. Here's a wiki on "unobtanium":

Unobtainium is a facetious term for any extremely rare, costly, or physically impossible material needed to fulfill a given design for a given application. The name is a portmanteau derived from unobtainable + -ium (the suffix for a number of chemical elements). Variations include unobtanium and unattainium, with the same meaning.
The properties of any particular "unobtainium" depend on the intended use. For example, a pulley made of unobtainium might be massless and frictionless. However, if used in a nuclear rocket, unobtainium would be light, strong at high temperatures, and resistant to radiation damage.

The name unobtainium also closely resembles the systematic element name for undiscovered elements that have an atomic number of 100-199. Like unobtainium, these all have 5 syllable names beginning with "un" and ending in "ium". The term was, however, in use long before the IUPAC systematic names.

Another largely synonymous term includes wishalloy,[1] although the sense is often subtly different in that a wishalloy usually doesn't exist at all, whereas unobtainium may merely be unavailable. The term handwavium usually is used to indicate a material that probably cannot even in principle be real.

 

[Dark Victory]

Maybe Cameron just said "Da hell with making sense of the story

Cameron slacking off on his dream project? Maybe...if there was a hell.....and it froze over.


And there's a term goin' 'round these days called "suspension of disbelief"....

 

[Electrofarce]

Maybe Cameron just said "Da hell with making sense of the story" and just decided to go for a massive CGI fest. I am good either way. Here's a wiki on "unobtanium":

I beg to differ. The story for this film is brilliant and that's a fact.

 

[BlackLantern]

how so?? it's taking plot points typically seen in romantic films and throwing a sci-fi wrapper around it....the story is adequate....seems very Dances With Wolves in a lot of ways

 

[Dark Victory]

how so?? it's taking plot points typically seen in romantic films and throwing a sci-fi wrapper around it....the story is adequate....seems very Dances With Wolves in a lot of ways

And that's a bad thing?

So having the same plot elements as other films automatically makes Avatar bad?

Terminator 1 and 2 took the last savior of earth concept and look what we got. Cameron adds his own little twists to "cliches" and the results have been fantastic

 

[Dark Victory]

how so?? it's taking plot points typically seen in romantic films and throwing a sci-fi wrapper around it....the story is adequate....seems very Dances With Wolves in a lot of ways

And that's a bad thing?

So having the same plot elements as other films automatically makes Avatar bad?

Terminator 1 and 2 took the last savior of earth concept and look what we got. Cameron adds his own little twists to "cliches" and the results have been fantastic

 

[Sentinel X]

^Exactly. Lets see the film first before we start calling it a bad story. A LOT of good movies do not have original stories but the directors knew how to execute it in a way that made it feel different. So many scripts and screenplays are using basic story elements from old plays by shakespeare and other influential authors, that does not mean that the stories were not good.

I think it could be a nice story depending how it is directed. Of course it can also be cliched and predictable....but being that this cameron, Im expecting it to be at least decent.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Anyone else having serious delays with their browser while surfing the hype these days or is it just me? Figured its not just me with that ten minute delay between DV two repeat posts. It's literally taking me 30 seconds to switch pages, which is weird because its not that busy this time of year.

 

[BlackLantern]

And that's a bad thing?

So having the same plot elements as other films automatically makes Avatar bad?

Terminator 1 and 2 took the last savior of earth concept and look what we got. Cameron adds his own little twists to "cliches" and the results have been fantastic

Not bad...but calling it brilliant is a bit much....it will be an average story with amazing visuals...

and the sheep will flock to it

 

[Bunker]

Cameron's plots always sound pedestrian, but he always adds something unique that makes it special.

 

[Dark Victory]

Not bad...but calling it brilliant is a bit much....it will be an average story with amazing visuals...

and the sheep will flock to it

Well, from what I saw at the 16 screening, the plot looks fantastic. If I were you, I'd go with the benefit of the doubt -- it's Cameron. Not to mention the script was written over 12 years ago.

 

[FaT_tONle]

And I agree with BL, most people will care less about the story and see this just for the visuals. But I don't have a problem with that.

 

[BlackLantern]

I'm a bit past giving any director "benefit of the doubt" these days....it's practically a dirty term in my vocabulary

 

[Sarg92]

Anyone else having serious delays with their browser while surfing the hype these days or is it just me? Figured its not with that ten minute delay between DV two repeat posts. It's literally taking me 30 seconds to switch pages, which is weird because its not that busy this time of year.

I have had problems. The past couple of days SHH! Forums have been incredibly slow to load for me however now they are fine.

 

[Nightmare]

I have the same problems every once in a while.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Yeah as soon as I made that post everything started whizzing the past few minutes. Hopefully it won't be recurring issue. Can't imagine taking minutes to change pages once the 2011 hype hits.

 

[Dark Victory]

I'm a bit past giving any director "benefit of the doubt" these days....it's practically a dirty term in my vocabulary

Yeah, but....it's Cameron.

His dream project, nonetheless.

 

[Sentinel X]

I'm a bit past giving any director "benefit of the doubt" these days....it's practically a dirty term in my vocabulary

Okay yeah....you will see this movie anyway and probably opening weekend.

 

[BlackLantern]

so?? if anything the expectations should be through the roof and so should the scrutiny because he's spent near a decade on this...its a December release, Ill probably get around to it after the New Year (it should still be in theaters)

 

[Electrofarce]

And I agree with BL, most people will care less about the story and see this just for the visuals. But I don't have a problem with that.

Neither do I, but I know Cameron has created a fantastic story and along with amazing visuals the film will hopefully appeal to alot of people.

That's ultimately how I see this film playing out.

 

[firsttimeposter]

sorry not allowed