Comics Can Spider-Man be saved?

[Flonk]

Can it be saved? Of course.

Marvel needs to get their priorities straight. We don't buy their books because of the shocking events, or the continuity swap-ups, or the costume changes, or the power changes.

We buy because of the characters. Get writers who care about the characters, and who are more interested in telling good stories instead of leaving their mark on Spidey's history and Spidey will be saved. Simple as that.

In simpler words, PUT DAN SLOTT ON A SPIDER-MAN BOOK.

Robert Kirkman on Amazing

Dan Slott on FNSM

Sean McKeever on Sensational.

I'll be the happiest geek in Texas.

 

[co2]

Can it be saved? Of course.

Marvel needs to get their priorities straight. We don't buy their books because of the shocking events, or the continuity swap-ups, or the costume changes, or the power changes.

We buy because of the characters. Get writers who care about the characters, and who are more interested in telling good stories instead of leaving their mark on Spidey's history and Spidey will be saved. Simple as that.

That's why I read Ultimate Spidey only. It seems to have a handle on that.

 

[jaydawg]

Oh please, it wouldn't be a challenge at all. Just ignore this idiotic spider-totem thing, Sins Past (and looks like writers already have) and make sure his ID isnt leaked. Thats it. Pretty simple really. Having Spidey on the Avengers is hardly ruining the character. If anything, its evolving him. Organic webs dont really matter. We already know he's a genius. The bone spikes? Just dont reference them. The Iron spider look? From the get go, we knew it was just to continue the Civil War plot. If there is anything I'm missing from the Spider titles are the classic villians. With the exception of Millar's MKSM, when was the last time we saw Electro? Vulture? Venom? Scorpion? Rhino? Come on. The guy easily has the best rogues gallery at Marvel and for some reason the closest we're getting towards seeing them represented is in a story based on a bunch of third stringers in Sensational.

 

[wolvie2020]

Yes. Absolutely. Without a doubt. Batman, Superman, and a ton of DC characters went through rough patches and have come through to better tales. Same could happen here.

Exactly. People can't be so naive or play down how talented comic book writers can be. Super-Man, Wonder-Woman and Batman between them have had DECADES worth of bad story telling, but they all seem to have been revamped, 'fixed,' and also pioneered new comic book directions. Spidey can have they same.

Unforunately, as with ANY charachter that has continuous serials lasting this long, MAJOR hiccups are bound to happen. I'm not saying saving him will be easy, or happen quick, it's going to take someone 1st steering things in the right direction. It's then going to take other people following suit, being like minded, and having a genuine love for the charachters.

Look at what the guys @ DC are doing with IC. While I do think a lot of it is more than a tad forced, and just straight up corny sometimes, it is working for the DCU. Sales have gone nuts for their company, they're getting respect for being bold, (or as I think, finally catching up,) and best of all, people who love the DCU are gong nuts about this. And most importantly, when they do kill a charachter, you get a feeling of something big has just happened. And you do feel sad. Charachters I never even knew existed I'm feeling sorry for

Many people said that this couldn't be done, but it has been, and DC doing this takes a hell of a lot more work than fixing Spidey.

All we need now is for the people who say that they hate the stories, to just stop buying them! That would help a great deal

 

[dan1]

Sherlock Holmes fans probably wouldn't appreciate amoral writers and editors screwing with their favorite character with watered-down and trashified "modern" stories. I can't blame the people who decided Spider-Man and the rest of the Marvel universe was going to live on when future writers couldn't handle it, and from a marketing perspective, obviously that was the right choice. Still, from a literary perspective, this dog won't hunt no more and should be taken out behind the barn and put out of its misery.

I like this reference to Holmes, as I love the Conan Doyle Holmes Books. The Granada series starring the late great Jeremy Brett was as close an interpretation to the stories as possible.

The new movie, where Rupert Everett plays Holmes was not written by Doyle, but was written about a retired Holmes coming out of retirement to solve a case and was very good.

But almost all of that other crap that has "Sherlock Holmes" stamped on it, is garbage. It's written by hacks that misrepresent the character and obviously did not read the source material when coming up with their original stories.

REMIND YOU OF ANYBODY??

(example>See Basil Rathbone in a 1930's car in one of his Holmes Movies.)(HA!)

(See Peter Parker Drive to work in his car, which he never had a license for and never drove before and was not explained because JMS never cared to know.

 

[Herr Logan]

I like this reference to Holmes, as I love the Conan Doyle Holmes Books. The Granada series starring the late great Jeremy Brett was as close an interpretation to the stories as possible.

The new movie, where Rupert Everett plays Holmes was not written by Doyle, but was written about a retired Holmes coming out of retirement to solve a case and was very good.

But almost all of that other crap that has "Sherlock Holmes" stamped on it, is garbage. It's written by hacks that misrepresent the character and obviously did not read the source material when coming up with their original stories.

REMIND YOU OF ANYBODY??

(example>See Basil Rathbone in a 1930's car in one of his Holmes Movies.)(HA!)

(See Peter Parker Drive to work in his car, which he never had a license for and never drove before and was not explained because JMS never cared to know.

I never read a Sherlock Holmes story in my life. I just thought it would be a good example.

 

[Cullen]

I like this reference to Holmes, as I love the Conan Doyle Holmes Books. The Granada series starring the late great Jeremy Brett was as close an interpretation to the stories as possible.

The new movie, where Rupert Everett plays Holmes was not written by Doyle, but was written about a retired Holmes coming out of retirement to solve a case and was very good.

But almost all of that other crap that has "Sherlock Holmes" stamped on it, is garbage. It's written by hacks that misrepresent the character and obviously did not read the source material when coming up with their original stories.

REMIND YOU OF ANYBODY??

(example>See Basil Rathbone in a 1930's car in one of his Holmes Movies.)(HA!)

(See Peter Parker Drive to work in his car, which he never had a license for and never drove before and was not explained because JMS never cared to know.

The novel "Sherlock Holmes v. Dracula" is pretty good, and "A Study in Emerald" by Neil Gaiman is excellent, but you're right. The majority of non-Dolye Sherlock Holmes stories are crap. Most sequels done by people other than the original writers are to be avoid unless reason (or deep curiousity) says otherwise...

 

[Flonk]

(See Peter Parker Drive to work in his car, which he never had a license for and never drove before and was not explained because JMS never cared to know.

Two words for you. Spider-Mobile.

 

[CConn]

I agree with Cullen, jaydawg, and wolvie 2020.

Congratulations. You'll all be recieving stickers later on.

 

[SpideyInATree]

Two words for you. Spider-Mobile.

Pete also drove a motorcycle back in the early years when Stan Lee wrote it. Need a license for those.

I'm sure JMS had a killer idea called "The Driver's License Center from Hell" where it was a eight issue epic life changing story of Peter Parker, GETTING HIS DRIVERS LICENSE!!!!!

But they decided Sins Past was a better idea.

 

[Dragon]

Two words for you. Spider-Mobile.

And you saw what happened when Peter tried to drive it, right?

 

[Flonk]

And you saw what happened when Peter tried to drive it, right?

If I remember correctly, hilarity ensued.

 

[MajinShenron]

How about your a complete ****tard and unless you see therapy, you wont be saved?


He's been warned - E

 

[Herr Logan]

How about your a complete ****tard and unless you see therapy, you wont be saved?

How about you go sit in the corner and contemplate your failures, you pathetic little troll?

 

[Cullen]

How about your a complete ****tard and unless you see therapy, you wont be saved?

The hell?

 

[LarryLegend]

How about your a complete ****tard and unless you see therapy, you wont be saved?

WTF?

 

[LarryLegend]

Pete also drove a motorcycle back in the early years when Stan Lee wrote it. Need a license for those.

I'm sure JMS had a killer idea called "The Driver's License Center from Hell" where it was a eight issue epic life changing story of Peter Parker, GETTING HIS DRIVERS LICENSE!!!!!

But they decided Sins Past was a better idea.

lol.

 

[MajinShenron]

All you guys do is complain. What do you guys want to see boring, redundant battles? Bank robberies get boring.

 

[Herr Logan]

All you guys do is complain. What do you guys want to see boring, redundant battles? Bank robberies get boring.

Useless little child, perhaps I should have been more clear earlier:

Go sit in the corner and contemplate your failures quietly.

 

[MajinShenron]

Yeah, I mean, you have 11,000 posts in a comic book forum. Your life must be amazing.

 

[Abaddon]

If a good writer comes along,then yes.The possibility is always there.First then need to get rid of Norman though,and undo all the damage associated with that character.

 

[jaydawg]

I agree with Cullen, jaydawg, and wolvie 2020.

Congratulations. You'll all be recieving stickers later on.

Sha-weet!!

 

[Herr Logan]

Yeah, I mean, you have 11,000 posts in a comic book forum. Your life must be amazing.

Hey, I may be mistaken, but I have this crazy notion that-- *gasp* --you may have signed up on this same forum!

What the hell does my post count have to do with you being an unwanted troll with nothing useful to say in this thread? Go on, I'll wait for you to come up with another juvenile non-sequiter designed to divert attention from your failure.

Feckless child.

 

[Abaddon]

Hey, I may be mistaken, but I have this crazy notion that-- *gasp* --you may have signed up on this same forum!

What the hell does my post count have to do with you being an unwanted troll with nothing useful to say in this thread? Go on, I'll wait for you to come up with another juvenile non-sequiter designed to divert attention from your failure.

Feckless child.

*documents material*



So,how exactly would Mysterio be able to manipulate the goings-on for the past 6(I think) years since his "death"?

 

[Herr Logan]

*documents material*

Meaning what?

If that's another term for "TiVo'd," then you and I are done talkin'.

So,how exactly would Mysterio be able to manipulate the goings-on for the past 6(I think) years since his "death"?

First off, he didn't die. A master of special effects and illusion, who knows what Daredevil's capabilities are, seems to blow his brains out in front of the hero. Right, I'll buy that. If Adrian Toomes can beat cancer, so can Quentin Beck.

Second of all, I don't really know how the Cosmic Cube works, but for Mysterio to screw with the entire Marvel Universe so that several years of bad writing happened when it shouldn't have, he'd need something more than his Soundstage o' Tricks. Hell, it wouldn't have to be Mysterio. I only tossed that name out there because he was my magic answer to 'Sins Past.' He could have been behind that, but not everything else that's happened at Marvel that shouldn't have. It should probably be someone with a little more ambition and vision than Mysterio, truth be told.