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Superman Returns Can Superman Be Saved?

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Can Superman Be Saved?

In 1978, director Richard Donner’s “Superman: The Movie” was released to box office glory (300 million dollars worldwide), to critical praise (A “pure delight” critic Robert Ebert called it), and to more prestigious awards (a special achievement Oscar and three other nominations) than any other “superhero movie” before it.

Superman: The Movie was not a manufactured hit. It was meant to be an innovative film, a spectacle—a cinematic circus that would convince moviegoers that “a man can fly.” Along with George Lucas’ Star Wars, Superman: The Movie was pioneering the trend of the big budget, out-of-this-world action feature. The world of the late 1970’s did not refuse to believe a man could fly, but everyone doubted if he could really sell tickets. The movie was a 55 million dollar gamble; not only because the production costs were as high as a typical movie’s total gross, but because to audiences of the late 1970’s, comic book movies were Adam West and Burt Ward starring in Batman: The Series. A risky film like Star Wars was all but censored from the studio systems for daring to present action and science-fiction rather than sobering character study, and well, that movie at least had costumes, aliens and spaceships that could keep the kids happy. A film like Superman had only one thing going for it: outrageous visual effects taking place in a very real world. If the effects were unconvincing, it would be a bomb. If there were no substance to the story, the critics would lambaste the film, and the whole idea of the big budget superhero movie would be shot down by a Deer Hunter.

Nearly twenty years later, we look back in history and see Superman: The Movie not only as a tremendous success, but also as the continuing golden standard held by Hollywood by which all comic book movies should be. And come to think of it, not just comic book movies, but all movies released by a major studio are required to adhere to that standard. While not every protagonist is demanded to have superpowers, the more explosions, the more fantastic visual effects, the more action, the better. The fact that Hollywood now shoves superhero movies down the movie going public’s throat, is surprisingly reminiscent of Flavius Theodosius making Christianity the official state religion of the Roman Empire.

The paradox now unfortunately, is that no matter how faithful an adaptation a comic book movie is to its original source, no matter how convincing the visual effects are, comic book movies are no longer a novelty, and amazing superhero scenes are no longer a great achievement. Critics, along with the movie going public, no longer consider the visual or audio effects of a movie to be a movie’s greatest strength. Figuratively speaking, visual effects are cheap, compared to a really powerful story behind all the action.

In 2006, Director Bryan Singer of X-Men fame, will attempt to return The Man Of Steel to his prominent, alpha-superhero role, and hopes to restore the Superman franchise to the same prominence the 1978 debut ambitiously claimed. He will attempt to do the impossible and convince millions of moviegoers, not that a man can fly (by now we have seen dozens of flying men) but that we can actually care about such a bland blue-suited character with a 1950’s red cape, already seeming to be severely out of touch with the Google Generation. (That is, the generation after the Generation-Xers)

Bryan Singer, and presumably many studio executives, are hoping that supplying Superman Returns with a good story and lots of human drama (perhaps even a heartfelt love story?) will complement its visual achievements nicely, and that audiences will once again embrace the legend, proving once and for all it’s not style but substance that makes a hit.

And if Bryan Singer goes this predictably unpredictable route, then Superman Returns will NOT be an overwhelming hit. It won’t even begin to tug at the cape of the original 1978 film and its groundbreaking achievement.

The well meaning film may recover some of its costs and possibly, at the most, revive the franchise for a few more disappointing sequels. But Bryan Singer, as a true auteur, must realize what made Superman: The Movie truly a hit: that film, dared to be different. There was no set standard to follow, there were few precedents that could be referred to and there was no blueprint on how to make the perfect superhero movie.

Yet Richard Donner proved himself a ringmaster, a true showman of cinema, and with Superman: The Movie bedazzled a captive audience. He made a lot of promises; he delivered a new vision; he attempted and succeeded at doing things on screen that audiences had never seen before. And Richard Donner’s vision was theatrical in every sense of the word.

Marlon Brando was paid over 4 million dollars for an 8 minute performance. Gene Hackman chose to wear a series of ridiculous wigs rather than present Lex Luthor as an obviously bald madman. Mario Puzo of Godfather fame wrote the script. The dialogue was at once light-hearted and artsy. Lois Lane’s romantic super-flight across the sky featured a number called “Can You Read My Mind”, a song without any music and sounding more like a poem read by Margot Kidder. Lex Luthor’s bad guy female assistant stole a kiss from the Man Of Steel just as he’s dying of Kryptonite, correctly assuming she would never get the chance again after saving him. Finally, just when the real world collided with fantasy and Lois Lane met an untimely death, how did Superman save the day? Why of course, he circled the earth at light-speed, reversed the axis and rewound time itself.

Superman: The Movie had delusions of grandeur. It was truly a movie motivated by imagination. Not by visual effects, nor by emotional story telling. Only a truly ambitious filmmaker could have produced a finished result so fulgurous. Bryan Singer, who earned his reputation with the pulp 1995 crime thriller The Usual Suspects, certainly is an ambitious and imaginative auteur. Not surprisingly, he revitalized X-Men and produced a successful franchise that continues to thrive even despite losing directorial talent. (Brett Ratner, anyone? No? He made Rush Hour. Ohhh…how unfortunate)

However, Bryan Singer’s approach to revitalizing Superman at this point in time sounds rather misguided. He is planning this movie as a direct sequel to the Superman franchise of the 70’s and 80’s starring all new faces with a familiar suit and with a script from preferred X-Men scribes Dan Harris and Michael Dougherty. Obviously, the cast has been rehired and kept forever young. The story follows continuity left behind in the movie, and brings out new scenes involving old characters, which of course look none too familiar 20 years later. The film allegedly contains over 1000 visual effects shots. The relatively unknown lead bulked up for his role. Complex storylines straight from the Superman comics were naturally discarded for a more crowd-pleasing story arc. The Superman symbol is kept shiny because it’s made up entirely little blue Superman symbols. Ah fascinating.

Preliminary reports indicate that Bryan Singer is attempting to make merely an exciting Superman flick, not a truly groundbreaking one. It appears that he is clinging to the past, picking up the Kryptonian remnants of a past era and repainting them with a new millennium finish.

But what will Bryan Singer truly accomplish with this updated version of Superman? Is he aspiring for the film to be a visual effects extravaganza with heart? If so, then he is miles behind Richard Donner, who sought to do so much more with his original vision of Superman: The Movie; to adapt a comic book to the screen was not enough. To bring a comic book directly to life, and to introduce something that had never been seen before—that was truly the challenge.

In order for Superman Returns to be a great revival of a fallen hero, the movie must be cutting edge. Memories of the old movie, along with weekly episodes of the network series Smallville remind us that Superman in concept is hardly a new idea. To improve upon the Superman memories of the past, and to transcend the mindless action flicks of today’s era which hide behind comic book origins, would require a director with cunning, craftsmanship and the clout to see his vision through. Singer has proven that he has the capacity to do great work with The Usual Suspects. With X-Men he showed his technical prowess for action and suspense. Reviving the tradition of Superman is quite the risk in this late day and age with a spoiled generation of comic book/superhero fans who have seen one too many visual effect shots. In order to be successful, the film would require a dramatic combination of both art and technical wizardry to capture the world’s attention. Bryan Singer has the talent but will art or commerce, good or evil, finally prevail?

Spiderman 2 taught us that comic book movies could be emotional and impacting. The Lord Of The Rings, while not a real comic book, taught us that fantasy could indeed be made of important subject matter. Independent movies based on comic books or graphic novels like Ghost World and A History Of Violence taught us that comic book movies are not limited to superheroics and mass explosions.

Superman Returns must teach us something entirely new if it is to matter in the least to American culture. It is only what we would expect, from the greatest superhero of all time, to leap tall buildings—that is, shake up a tired movie industry—in a single bound. If Bryan Singer is unsuccessful, then Warner Brothers Studio will prove to be the last remaining piece of Krypton that finally killed Superman once and for all.

http://www.miamipoetryreview.com/articles/superman-returns-movie300506.shtml
 
This writer is clearly missing the point. Richard Donner's movie was "visionary" simply because at that point, there wasn't any previous, great Superman movie franchise to consider. Sure, there was the George Reeves TV show, the serials, and the cartoons, but none of these had the level of impact that the Christopher Reeve/Richard Donner movie had on the genre. Superman may have begun as a comic book character, but it has gotten to the point now for many people that even when they read a comic where Superman saves the day, they hear the John Willaims theme in the back of their mind and hear Christopher Reeve's voice when the read the dialogue. The original 1978 movie has become just as important to the character as the comic books and Bryan Singer understands that. What he's done is honor that history without making it an exact sequel. Why is it so hard for these idiot reviewers to understand this, and how can they really say that his vision lacks originality or inspiration when they haven't even seen the movie yet?
 
That-Guy said:
This writer is clearly missing the point. Richard Donner's movie was "visionary" simply because at that point, there wasn't any previous, great Superman movie franchise to consider. Sure, there was the George Reeves TV show, the serials, and the cartoons, but none of these had the level of impact that the Christopher Reeve/Richard Donner movie had on the genre. Superman may have begun as a comic book character, but it has gotten to the point now for many people that even when they read a comic where Superman saves the day, they hear the John Willaims theme in the back of their mind and hear Christopher Reeve's voice when the read the dialogue. The original 1978 movie has become just as important to the character as the comic books and Bryan Singer understands that. What he's done is honor that history without making it an exact sequel. Why is it so hard for these idiot reviewers to understand this, and how can they really say that his vision lacks originality or inspiration when they haven't even seen the movie yet?

No one has seen the movie yet, but from what has been laid out Singer's approach smacks of lack of originality or inspiration. All this requel talk is garbage SR IS a sequel, if Singer had any balls, vision or inspiration, he would have created a new orgin story instead of hiding behind the cowardly notion that STM 1 & 2 were so amazing that he dare not tarnish it.
 
That-Guy said:
This writer is clearly missing the point. Richard Donner's movie was "visionary" simply because at that point, there wasn't any previous, great Superman movie franchise to consider. Sure, there was the George Reeves TV show, the serials, and the cartoons, but none of these had the level of impact that the Christopher Reeve/Richard Donner movie had on the genre. Superman may have begun as a comic book character, but it has gotten to the point now for many people that even when they read a comic where Superman saves the day, they hear the John Willaims theme in the back of their mind and hear Christopher Reeve's voice when the read the dialogue. The original 1978 movie has become just as important to the character as the comic books and Bryan Singer understands that. What he's done is honor that history without making it an exact sequel. Why is it so hard for these idiot reviewers to understand this, and how can they really say that his vision lacks originality or inspiration when they haven't even seen the movie yet?

I think actually you might be missing the point...

First off, the reviewer is making a judgement purely on what we've seen so far and he makes mention of this. Let's just assume that his assessment of the movie is correct and that SR will rely on visual effects and engaging storytelling for its success (not too irrational a claim.)

The reviewer is simply stating that in order for a new Superman movie to pack the same kind of impact that Donner's did, it has to follow suit with Donner's flick not in style or even storytelling, but in novelty. It has to challenge the audience and make them think differently about the hero. Whether or not Superman was as well known before Donner's movie is irrelevant. Superman the movie made the world look at Superheroes in a very different light and set the benchmark for today's hurricane of superhero flicks.

However, the question I have is: is it even possible for lightening to strike twice? I mean, we've seen campy versions of Superman, serious versions of Superman, musical version, and everything in between. One could argue that ever incarnation of Superman has already been done to noteriety in some way shape or form. Singer's task is a million times harder then Donner's was in my opinion. All Donner had to do was move away from Adam West and Burt Ward and adhere to his verissimilitude.

Today, Superman, and virtually all superhero flicks, have backed themselves into veritable novelty corners. We're a jaded audience. And short of showing Superman on a holographic screen or re-writing the legend completely, it would take monumental creativity to create the same impact of novelty that Donner achieved.
 
The Game said:
No one has seen the movie yet, but from what has been laid out Singer's approach smacks of lack of originality or inspiration.
really? and what of the awesome visuals and shots we've seen from the trailers? i guess those lack inspiration also...:o

All this requel talk is garbage SR IS a sequel, if Singer had any balls, vision or inspiration, he would have created a new orgin story instead of hiding behind the cowardly notion that STM 1 & 2 were so amazing that he dare not tarnish it.
so...how exactly is Superman Returns more redundant than redoing Superman's origin story? it's been done in SM:TM and most recently in Smallville....do we really need ANOTHER telling of Superman's origin?
 
DorkyFresh said:
really? and what of the awesome visuals and shots we've seen from the trailers? i guess those lack inspiration also...:o


so...how exactly is Superman Returns more redundant than redoing Superman's origin story? it's been done in SM:TM and most recently in Smallville....do we really need ANOTHER telling of Superman's origin?

That's my point. EVERYTHING has been done before again and again...and again.
 
But how do you know an origin story... ANY new origin story... wouldn't have just felt like a rehash of Superman: The Movie? I mean, if you're going to do a Superman origin story, there aren't too many places you can really go with it if you want to stay true to the source material (and by that I mean the comics). Superman gets rocketed to earth by Jor-El, raised by John and Martha Kent, moves to Metropolis, gets a job at the Daily Planet, saves Lois from some type of disaster thus making his debut as Superman (a name she gives him), they fall in love, Lex shows up with some world-threatening scheme and Superman foils it. Um... sound familiar? The reason the Batman franshise was able to be rebooted is because Tim Burton got it wrong from the get-go and it just kept getting worse from there. Donner not only got it right, but he got it REALLY right.
 
That-Guy said:
But how do you know an origin story... ANY new origin story... wouldn't have just felt like a rehash of Superman: The Movie? I mean, if you're going to do a Superman origin story, there aren't too many places you can really go with it if you want to stay true to the source material (and by that I mean the comics). Superman gets rocketed to earth by Jor-El, raised by John and Martha Kent, moves to Metropolis, gets a job at the Daily Planet, saves Lois from some type of disaster thus making his debut as Superman (a name she gives him), they fall in love, Lex shows up with some world-threatening scheme and Superman foils it. Um... sound familiar? The reason the Batman franshise was able to be rebooted is because Tim Burton got it wrong from the get-go and it just kept getting worse from there. Donner not only got it right, but he got it REALLY right.

I completely disagree, Burton's movie was also quite revolutionary.
 
DorkyFresh said:
really? and what of the awesome visuals and shots we've seen from the trailers? i guess those lack inspiration also...:o


so...how exactly is Superman Returns more redundant than redoing Superman's origin story? it's been done in SM:TM and most recently in Smallville....do we really need ANOTHER telling of Superman's origin?

''WOW, Superman got shot in teh eye, dude that is so coooool'' :rolleyes: and some of those ''awesome visuals and shots'' look like shoody CGI and have been done millions of times

well gee, its been what 20 years, so yes I think we do need a new take on his origin, hey I like Smallville (I really do) but that show can not be used as justification for not retelling Superman's beginings.
 
That-Guy said:
But how do you know an origin story... ANY new origin story... wouldn't have just felt like a rehash of Superman: The Movie? I mean, if you're going to do a Superman origin story, there aren't too many places you can really go with it if you want to stay true to the source material (and by that I mean the comics). Superman gets rocketed to earth by Jor-El, raised by John and Martha Kent, moves to Metropolis, gets a job at the Daily Planet, saves Lois from some type of disaster thus making his debut as Superman (a name she gives him), they fall in love, Lex shows up with some world-threatening scheme and Superman foils it. Um... sound familiar? The reason the Batman franshise was able to be rebooted is because Tim Burton got it wrong from the get-go and it just kept getting worse from there. Donner not only got it right, but he got it REALLY right.

LOL, Buron got nothing wrong, after Returns the whole franchise went to hell, thats why they had to reboot it.
 
The Game said:
''WOW, Superman got shot in teh eye, dude that is so coooool'' :rolleyes: and some of those ''awesome visuals and shots'' look like shoody CGI and have been done millions of times

well gee, its been what 20 years, so yes I think we do need a new take on his origin, hey I like Smallville (I really do) but that show can not be used as justification for not retelling Superman's beginings.

But Game, do you really think another origin story would be enough to engage an already origin jaded audience like the original Superman did? I personally don't think so. I think if you wanted to acheive new ground and novelty, you'd have to really think of somethign totally new and different while at the same time keeping true to the comics and source material. Lol good luck to anyone trying to figure that one out.
 
Very long article. I think the first Superman movie was an event because if was the first of its kind, and nothing like it had been seen before. Returns is going to be a great film because of the story it brings and all the visuals we've been anticipating.
 
Metropolis_Man said:
Very long article. I think the first Superman movie was an event because if was the first of its kind, and nothing like it had been seen before. Returns is going to be a great film because of the story it brings and all the visuals we've been anticipating.

:up:

:supes: FOREVER!
 
StarvingArtist said:
But Game, do you really think another origin story would be enough to engage an already origin jaded audience like the original Superman did? I personally don't think so. I think if you wanted to acheive new ground and novelty, you'd have to really think of somethign totally new and different while at the same time keeping true to the comics and source material. Lol good luck to anyone trying to figure that one out.

Enough time has elapsed where a new orgin, done well could shake up this jaded audience, personally I feel making STM 3: Superman Returns, is not the right way to go, Singer should have either done a reboot or left the Donner films well alone and created his own adventure within his own universe.
 
I probably would've done things different myself. But it always comes back to this for me, from all the other scripts and directors and actors involved in the past for a new Superman movie, this one is definately the jewel out of them all. I'm very satisfied at what we're getting now compared to what could have been.
 
These thoughts of mine can only be taken seriously if SR is as much of a rehash as it looks:

Ten to fifteen years from now somebody will re-do Spider-Man on screen, when they do, I want to see something thats true to Spider-man but way different from Raimi's version's of event's...because I've already seen the movies done his way, and as much as I love his way, I don't want a rehash.

Donner has already done his Superman movie. I want to see Singer's version.
 
And thats what we're getting, Singers version. :) Donner didn't direct this one, and many things have change around from his film. Might not seem so on the surface, before the movie comes out, but just wait until June 28th!!
 
The Game said:
LOL, Buron got nothing wrong, after Returns the whole franchise went to hell, thats why they had to reboot it.


You're entitled to you opinion. And I'm entitled to mine. The way I see it, when I see a Batman movie, I want it to be ABOUT Batman. The Joker and Catwoman should be secondary characters. In the Burton films, however, they were the central focus and Batman was in the background. Moreso in Returns than in Batman '89, but both times, the villains had more screen time. Also, its been canon for the last 50 or 60 years that Batman doesn't kill people. Burton completely threw that out the window. He also (with Batman Returns at least) threw the concept of reality out the window as well. What makes Batman so interesting is the fact that he COULD exist in the real world. Yes, in the comics, there are a few villains and plotlines that are bordeline sci-fi/fantasy, but for the most part, DC has done a relatively decent job keeping a level of realism in Batman. The majority of his enemies are just regular people who are insane and/or have a freakish appearance. But they normally don't have superhuman or supernatural powers. There are exceptions of course, but CATWOMAN isn't one of them. Changing her from a streetwise hooker turned thief to a neurotic secretary who comes back from the dead is beyond ridiculous. I still have yet to understand why the complete change of origin for this character never got more backlash. True, once Catwoman was in her costume, she ACTED the way Catwoman should act, but the explanation for it is not only a complete change but its also a little idiotic. Alley cats revived her? Okay, enough of this... back to topic...

I don't know if Superman Returns will be good or not. No one does; not even the people who have read the novel because there could be drastic changes. Only Bryan Singer and his people at WB know for sure (and their opinions are probably pretty biased). I just think its unfair to say that this movie lacks vision until we, as Lex would say "see the big picture here."
 
I SEE SPIDEY said:
These thoughts of mine can only be taken seriously if SR is as much of a rehash as it looks:

Ten to fifteen years from now somebody will re-do Spider-Man on screen, when they do, I want to see something thats true to Spider-man but way different from Raimi's version's of event's...because I've already seen the movies done his way, and as much as I love his way, I don't want a rehash.

Donner has already done his Superman movie. I want to see Singer's version.

The Kid, New Krypton, Superman searching for Krypton, Superman
throwing New Krypton to the space
and etc. What you want???

There are enough changes.
 
The Game said:
No one has seen the movie yet, but from what has been laid out Singer's approach smacks of lack of originality or inspiration. All this requel talk is garbage SR IS a sequel, if Singer had any balls, vision or inspiration, he would have created a new orgin story instead of hiding behind the cowardly notion that STM 1 & 2 were so amazing that he dare not tarnish it.

:up:
 
i don't understand how people are saying this is a rehash...

...the only 3 things that are connecting this movie to the original is the spaceship, the Fortress of Solitude (including Jor-El), and Routh's slight resemblence to Reeve...

...other than that, everything else in the movie is pretty different from the original. i sure as hell don't remember Lex
creating a whole new continent in the original...
 
DorkyFresh said:
i don't understand how people are saying this is a rehash...

...the only 3 things that are connecting this movie to the original is the spaceship, the Fortress of Solitude (including Jor-El), and Routh's slight resemblence to Reeve...

...other than that, everything else in the movie is pretty different from the original. i sure as hell don't remember Lex
creating a whole new continent in the original...
The whole 30's look and feel of the film is a rehased vision. What Superman can't exist in the 2000's?
 
The Game said:
''WOW, Superman got shot in teh eye, dude that is so coooool'' :rolleyes:
it sure is!! and i betcha if Singer had done 'his own thing' and still used that shot, then you'd be agreeing with the rest of us that it's an awesome shot. it sounds dumb in print, but it looks awesome on screen...EVERYONE i, personally, know who's seen that shot had a positive comment to make about it...

The Game said:
and some of those ''awesome visuals and shots'' look like shoody CGI and have been done millions of times
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omg....there's SOOOOOOO much CGI in this shot!!! some of the shots DO look CGI, yes, but no movie is perfect. and obvious CGI doesn't always equal bad visuals.....just look at Spider-Man 2 and Hellboy.

well gee, its been what 20 years, so yes I think we do need a new take on his origin, hey I like Smallville (I really do) but that show can not be used as justification for not retelling Superman's beginings.
why not? Smallville is a VERY big part of American television right now and more people than i'd like actually follow the show. it's not just you that watches the show...it's thousands of other Americans who might potentially be bored with the idea of a Superman origina movie.

besides...Blade, Spider-Man, Daredevil, Hulk, Batman Begins, Fantastic Four, Hellboy, Ghost Rider......ALL origin movies. it's time for a change of pace...
 
I SEE SPIDEY said:
The whole 30's look and feel of the film is a rehased vision. What Superman can't exist in the 2000's?
who's to say that he isn't existing in the 2000's? last time i remember...they didn't have huge flat panel monitors in newspaper companies back in the 40's...

...it's all in how you take it. if you want it to look up-to-date, then watch the movie in a modern mindset. it's not as if you have old cars and fedoras (business hats) to MAKE you think of the 30's or 40's. they're not using tommy guns and wearing pinstriped suits.


geez dude....next thing you know people are gonna be complaining that they're using the original score!!!!!
 

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