The Dark Knight Capes and Cowls - New Batsuit Discussion Thread

[undyingsoul]

why don't we have a batman thread?

 

[SuperKoala]

we do

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

why don't we have a batman thread?

What are you thinking?

 

[kage88]

i'm loving the suit more and more everyday. can't wait to see more fan-made versions of this suit; including my own

 

[Aethea]

I could live with the top part of the suit. The legs is what really ruins the whole visual for me. Why couldnt they just put plain leg armor like the new GiJoe suits? Why did they have to make the legs so busy? I like the idea of the mythrill-like under armor, while the metal plates on top protect like a biker's outfit.

 

[zmystico]

Furthermore, i am intrigued to see what happens in Hong Kong. It seems that batman doesnt have his cowl there but a backpack. Maybe he is carrying a chute, maybe Kazooie.

From one of the action figures I saw, the backpack has the cape in it, as sorta a portable hang glider.


http://mwctoys.com/REVIEW_051208a.htm - This is a review of it.

 

[Psoliagos]

From one of the action figures I saw, the backpack has the cape in it, as sorta a portable hang glider.


http://mwctoys.com/REVIEW_051208a.htm - This is a review of it.

That figure is so crappy...

 

[Psoliagos]

His voice with Rach. in the cave was also quite good. And at the train station after dispatching the men who were going to kill her. I also liked it when he confronted Ras. The only times I really didn't care too much for it was when he talked to Flass. It was ok, but really loud and barky (if that's a word). I like Batman to be just a bit more discreet when questioning inverted crooked cops in the rain.

Like:
- Mr Flass, could you please inform me about the whereabouts of the other pharmaceutical substances?
- I dont know, i swear to God.
- I would urge you to swear to me dear sir!
.....

Be reasonable. This is how batman interrogates. And that scene was one of the best in BB. I have waited all these years for a director to do that on film! It was badass and bale was spot on!

So please kind sir, dont make me hang you upside down in an alley....Be reasonable!

 

[Leon the Professional]

Like stealing a top-secret army vehicle that belongs to your own company, and not even bothering to make some changes so it's unrecognizable? The Tumbler itself is a huge hole in the disguise, because Bruce barely does anything about it disconnect himself from the vehicle that his own company has made.

So he should add more holes to his disguise by looking physically imposing in public?

Dude. You are the ONLY person to assess that Bats is tired during that one segment. I don't have to justify my position when you are the only one claiming the opposite.
Yes, because *gasp*....he LOOKED tired. I've made a point to say that if the guy looks and acts tired, then guess what, that's probably the case. If not, then....
He sounds exactly the same. His voice is gruffy, growly, and menacing. "Where were the drugs going?!" and "I brought mine!" are the same exact tone as his "I'm Batman".
There are no signs of panting or shortness breath, both of which are common indicators of being tired. What more do you want me to say?
If you can get various people here to agree that yes, Bale did sound tired, and intentionally did so because of the previous scene, I'll more than likely concede and wear a dunce hate. Literally. Get those people to agree, and I'll do it. We're just going in circles with this argument, so this'll be my last word on that.

This has nothing to do with Bale trying to make himself seem overtly tired. It is subtlety in acting. Run around for fifteen minutes nonstop, then say "I'm" and see if it doesn't sound more like "Ah'm".

My problem with you is not that you disagree that he sounds somewhat out of breath, but that you think I'm a fool for suggesting it. It might very well be that Bale's delivery was not at all influenced by the point I'm making, but it is certainly not some ridiculous suggestion like you make it out to be.

 

[BatmanFanatic]

I could live with the top part of the suit. The legs is what really ruins the whole visual for me. Why couldnt they just put plain leg armor like the new GiJoe suits? Why did they have to make the legs so busy? I like the idea of the mythrill-like under armor, while the metal plates on top protect like a biker's outfit.

I just wanted to say I really loved your siggy.

Like:
- Mr Flass, could you please inform me about the whereabouts of the other pharmaceutical substances?
- I dont know, i swear to God.
- I would urge you to swear to me dear sir!
.....

Be reasonable. This is how batman interrogates. And that scene was one of the best in BB. I have waited all these years for a director to do that on film! It was badass and bale was spot on!

So please kind sir, dont make me hang you upside down in an alley....Be reasonable!

Oh my god that made me laugh SOOOOOOOOOO hard. Thank-you, thank-you very much. t:

 

[Leon the Professional]

Of course it would give him an advantage, it would make it less likely for his head to separate from his shoulders! Seriously, linebackers and boxers build their necks for a reason. Safer for impact.

But linebackers and boxers don't where neck braces like Batman does.

As to point two, shouldn't a "playa'" look good? Its not exactly a stretch for the Wayne persona to be a narcissistic, egocentric, a-hole who likes to work out just because he's shallow and gets his nails done too.

Sure, that's a valid approach to Bruce's false public persona. But I don't think that it fits Bale's intrepretation of it, at least not according to Begins. He plays him as more of an oblivious irresponsible party guy, rather than a conceited narcissist. I don't think he wants the public to think he's an a-hole, nor does he need to go to such an extreme to keep suspicion off him. Afterall, he doesn't want to tarnish his family name anymore than he needs to.

From a bodybuilding.com, and I quote...
"Functionally speaking, a strong neck provides stability in contact sports and during training sessions which engage heavy compound exercises..."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think what Batman does would be classified as a "contact sport."

Well, I still fail to see how exactly a thick muscular neck would help Batman in his physical endeavors, at least in any significant way, but I'm not a fitness expert so I'll concede it's possible.

This isn't even directed at me but I find your posts unnecessarily insulting. If you need that much sarcasm to make an argument, you don't have an argument.

If the guy hadn't belittled my opinion in the first place, I would've felt no need to be rude to him.

And "If you need that much sarcasm to make an argument, you don't have an argument" sounds clever and all, but there's really no truth to it.

 

[Crook]

So he should add more holes to his disguise by looking physically imposing in public?

Where you draw the line? Did he look physically imposing in public, during BB? No, he was fine. Even in Equilibrium, in which he was in fantastic shape, he looked normal and blended in just fine when he was under normal attire.

I don't know where you get the idea that just because he'd have a thicker neck, people would associate him with Batman. As if the many other clues aren't enough. It's the neck that'll tip the overfilled glass? That IS what you're implying here, right? Correct me if I'm wrong with that assumption.

This has nothing to do with Bale trying to make himself seem overtly tired. It is subtlety in acting. Run around for fifteen minutes nonstop, then say "I'm" and see if it doesn't sound more like "Ah'm".

My problem with you is not that you disagree that he sounds somewhat out of breath, but that you think I'm a fool for suggesting it. It might very well be that Bale's delivery was not at all influenced by the point I'm making, but it is certainly not some ridiculous suggestion like you make it out to be.

I'm gonna go against my previous word, and address this one more time.

It seems that your only back-up of this notion is Bale using subtle acting. Even that, is based on an unfounded base. As I've said ad nauseum, if there was any indication that he was tired, I wouldn't be having this convo with you. It's not about being overt, it's showing any remote sign to prove it. Looking back, there's an overwhelming agreement that Bale is indeed just doing his normal bat-voice. Now is there a slim shot that everyone is wrong, and you're right? Possibly. But when it comes down to a single individual seeing/hearing something that no one else is....well, numbers don't lie.

Now please, let's just drop this. It's getting far OT at this point.

 

[Leon the Professional]

It's like every choice Nolan made - or just happenstance situation - is absolutely right, and couldn't possibly be just a tiny bit of a flaw. Being GLAD Bale has a thin neck? As if being thicker would be some kind of active problem that would hurt the film. That's crazy.

When did I say I'm GLAD he has a thin neck? All I brought up was a possible justification for it. Could it be that Bale didn't work out his neck simply because he didn't care to? Of course. Or maybe his neck muscles are just hard to bulk up. But why am I made out to be a jackass for suggesting that maybe Bale and Nolan really did put that much thought into the appropriate physique for Batman's character?

 

[BatmanFanatic]

When did I say I'm GLAD he has a thin neck? All I brought up was a possible justification for it. Could it be that Bale didn't work out his neck simply because he didn't care to? Of course. Or maybe his neck muscles are just hard to bulk up. But why am I made out to be a jackass for suggesting that maybe Bale and Nolan really did put that much thought into the appropriate physique for Batman's character?

I don't think anyone suggested you were a jackass for thinking that, just that it was far-fetched. Don't take the disagreement personally.

 

[guitarkhero311]

**** Bale's Neck!!!

 

[TNC9852002]

Oh Lord!...

-TNC

 

[The Guard]

Have to disagree, actually. Cowl looks pretty badass in that shot. But then, I think the cowl looks badass in most shots.

I didn't say a word about the cowl. I said "he looks ridiculous", with his cape all akimbo and his stupid armor. Honestly, no one looks at that shot and thinks "Couldn't the cape wranglers have wrangled his cape"?

 

[TNC9852002]

I didn't say a word about the cowl. I said "he looks ridiculous", with his cape all akimbo and his stupid armor. Honestly, no one looks at that shot and thinks "Couldn't the cape wranglers have wrangled his cape"?

His cape needs to look perfect every time, all the time! I get it now!

and why should Batman have all of that weird armor? It's not like he will get attacked by the vicious criminals he tries to stop every night. Makes sense.

-TNC

 

[mcallima]

His cape needs to look perfect every time, all the time! I get it now!

and why should Batman have all of that weird armor? It's not like he will get attacked by the vicious criminals he tries to stop every night. Makes sense.

-TNC

He can have all the armor he wants, it just shouldn't make him look like a TRON reject.

 

[The Guard]

His cape needs to look perfect every time, all the time! I get it now!

No, it needs to look decent, though. Especially in a scene where he's trying to look intimidating, in what is likely Batman's first encounter with The Joker, what is apparently meant to be something of an iconic, pivotal moment, having his cloak to the point where it looks like he might trip over it...that doesn't help. The production employs cape wranglers. There's a reason for that.

I also think the lighting is a bit harsh. What, has he stopped cutting the lights?

And if you're dumb enough to think I mean "he shouldn't wear armor", hey, good luck with that.

 

[RKO]

*smh*

 

[Saint]

I didn't say a word about the cowl. I said "he looks ridiculous", with his cape all akimbo and his stupid armor. Honestly, no one looks at that shot and thinks "Couldn't the cape wranglers have wrangled his cape"?

My bad; I assumed you were responding to the people who liked it for the cowl.

 

[The Guard]

Nope. The cowl is one of the few good elements of that suit.

 

[Saint]

Nope. The cowl is one of the few good elements of that suit.

Agreed.

 

[cryptic name]

No, it needs to look decent, though. Especially in a scene where he's trying to look intimidating, in what is likely Batman's first encounter with The Joker, what is apparently meant to be something of an iconic, pivotal moment, having his cloak to the point where it looks like he might trip over it...that doesn't help. The production employs cape wranglers. There's a reason for that.

I also think the lighting is a bit harsh. What, has he stopped cutting the lights?

And if you're dumb enough to think I mean "he shouldn't wear armor", hey, good luck with that.

so Batman should stop what he's doing and fix his cape so it looks perfect because he's in an iconic moment?