Endgame Captain America/Steve Rogers - Chris Evans

That's a pretty good read :up:

Some bits where he mentions Endgame:


He seems a little uncomfortable. I change the subject by asking him to tell me what happens at the end of Avengers: Endgame. Evans laughs. "Yeah," he says. "I wish I could. Uh, it's — I mean — it's a good one. It's a real good one. I saw, like, the first hour of it."

So you watched it up to the point where Cap dies?

"Right, exactly," Evans says. "After I die by Tony's hand, I just said, You know what? I can't watch this."

I should make it clear that this is a joke, even if it feels like the kind of joke that could turn out to be true. "I can't believe they even cut together a trailer," he says, "because so much of it is a visual spoiler. You'll see. A lot of the characters have"—

He stops, covering his mouth.

"Probably shouldn't have even said that," he says.

When that ideological pendulum swing is brought up, Evans says "Yeah," clearly calculating what, if anything, he's able to say here without breaching Marvel omerta.

"Man," he says, finally. "This one's really good. I choked up like three times."

Because Cap dies?

"Right," Evans says. "It's hard. Seeing my own death." He laughs. "It's going to be a long movie, that's for sure. The first edit clocked in over three hours. My funeral's like an hour."

He laughs again. He can make these jokes. What's Marvel going to do, fire him?
 
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Gotta disagree with you there chief. Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy was about the Dark Knight himself all the way thru and I still hold The Dark Knight as the best superhero film of all time, whereas Cap's trilogy hasn't really been all about him. Let me explain, Winter Soldier is his best film, and it's my favorite Marvel movie to date. However, Civil War was essentially Avengers 2.5 and more about the trio of Bucky, Tony and Cap and not really a Captain America movie. First Avenger wasn't a strong opening for Cap, sure Chris Evans shined in his debut but it wasn't critically as well received at Batman Begins (box office was pretty much the same for both films, but TFA had a larger budget) and had more weaknesses as Batman Begins.

I agree about TDK trilogy being better than Cap's. That being said, I would probably put Cap's trilogy second among CBM trilogies.

It's really TFA that holds it back for me. Not a bad movie by any stretch, but just a bland, generic action flick with a lame villain and uninspired action. On the other hand, Batman Begins is the gold standard when it comes to CBM origin stories.

TWS really reinvigorated Cap as a character and hugely boosted his popularity after his underwhelming role in Avengers, but TDK is just on another level. Ledger's performance was truly a case of lightning in a bottle, while everyone else brought their absolute A-game. Winter Solider definitely has better action, though.

When it comes to the third movies, I would say that CW was the strongest Cap movie whereas TDKR was pretty obviously the weakest, with the shoddy editing, horrendous fight scenes (you know what I mean) and lame twist with Talia being revealed at the 11th hour and Marion Cotillard's phoned-in performance. However, I still think it succeeded in giving Bale's Batman a satisfying send-off and his last words to Commissioner Gordon still hit me right in the feels every time.

So, in short:

Batman Begins>TFA

TDK>TWS

CW>TDKR

So Nolan gets the nod, although Cap might well have taken it if the Russo's had directed all three of his movies.
 
The Russos would not have made TFA better. In the above interview, they themselves say Golden Age Cap didn't interest them, and TFA was a movie strictly about that era.
 
The Russos would not have made TFA better. In the above interview, they themselves say Golden Age Cap didn't interest them, and TFA was a movie strictly about that era.

Maybe, but I still think it would have been more compelling than what we got.

Not that what we got was bad by any stretch (and not in IM2, TDW territory) but simply uninspired and largely forgettable IMO.

I will admit that I have a bit of a personal bias with Joe Johnston, however. It's just that I can never forgive this:

 
Maybe, but I still think it would have been more compelling than what we got.

Not that what we got was bad by any stretch (and not in IM2, TDW territory) but simply uninspired and largely forgettable IMO.

I will admit that I have a bit of a personal bias with Joe Johnston, however. It's just that I can never forgive this:



Joe Johnston's made many more movies than JP3. Yes, that movie sucked, but he's made several good films. He's hardly the only one to blame for that mess.
 
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The biggest thing that, for me, puts Winter Soldier over The Dark Knight?
Winter Soldier nailed the essence of Captain America, and was the best representation of the character we've ever seen on screen
Whereas Dark Knight, Batman took a clear backseat to his vastly more interesting side characters, primarily Joker and Two-Face

Then add in some pacing issues and blurry, dark action scenes, and TWS just takes it, imo
Dark Knight has the better third act and an amazing villain, but it doesn't negate the other flaws
 
That THR piece was an excellent read and provided a wonderful spank bank full of pictures. :funny:
 
Probably a rhetorical question, but has there been an official statement from Evans saying he's done with Cap?
Of the magazine articles I've read, Empire & a few others, they have written it as gospel that Evans is done - but I'm yet to see anything to confirm it?
 

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So I just found out, the show Evans is currently filming was doing some shooting in my hometown the other day and I guess will be doing more filming there throughout the process. I’m gonna have to keep a look out and see if I can catch him at all one of those days.
 
So I just found out, the show Evans is currently filming was doing some shooting in my hometown the other day and I guess will be doing more filming there throughout the process. I’m gonna have to keep a look out and see if I can catch him at all one of those days.
Good luck with that!
 
The First Avenger was a good movie and exactly what it needed to be. IMHO it's the most underrated of all of Phase 1. Like here's how I rank Phase 1:

1. The Avengers
2. Iron Man
3. The First Avenger
4. Iron Man 2
5. Thor
6. The Incredible Hulk
 
Kinda smelling a bit of a "from a certain point of view" thing going on here with all their end-of-Captain-America's-arc stuff.

That doesn't necessarily mean Steve dies. Wouldn't surprise me if those reports/rumors of him just "retiring" (as the Cap iconography) might hold weight, pairing up with Nick to run a more white-hat/less-shady S.H.I.E.L.D. reincarnation or whatever. That way they can put Steve/Evans on the backburner for like a decade, allow them to play around with all the new characters they haven't explored yet, then there's wiggle-room to bring him back in some big triumphant "Cap's back!" situation down the line. Cue nerds losing their **** and another big event movie.
 
If they have Cap retire in the 40s to be with Peggy again, I will riot. I can't accept an ending like that.
 
If they have Cap retire in the 40s to be with Peggy again, I will riot. I can't accept an ending like that.
Thank you! I hate that idea. So Cap will be like, "I miss Peggy so much, let me go back to the 40s so I can be with her"? No thanks. I'm one of the few that wants Cap to survive, but I'll rather they kill him than give him an ending like that.
 
I just don't understand the whole, I like these guys so much I hope they die thing. It's coming up so often with AEG...

I hope Steve gets a happy ending of some kind. He's tied with Thor on Most Tragic Avenger.
 
I love Cap, and don't want him to die
but it does feel like the most appropriate, and maybe most overly obvious end for the character

Retiring is just not a Cap thing to do. He can't ever stand aside and let others fight in his stead, he will always be on the front lines, until the day it kills him. So heading up SHIELD and ordering around pawns while he sits on the helicarrier?? Not his style. Going back to the 40's and living the simple life?? He's not that guy anymore.

He's the guy who- despite what he told Vision about "trading lives" in IW- lays down his life to bring back half of creation

I hope they find a good way to end his story without the big emotional sacrifice... but I don't know, it feels like its the only logical way a guy like Cap's story ends

That said, Marvel does love subverting expectations
 
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Here's why, even though Cap is my favorite Avenger, I want Steve to die:

Because I know that this is finishing his story-line. I know that in the future, when there's a big battle, Cap won't be present. So I would rather have my favorite Avenger go out honorably and sacrifice himself so others can live, than for him to "retire" and Steve just be absent from all future conflicts because he's choosing not to be there. That's not the Cap I know and love.

Give me a Chris Evans contract extension, or give me Caps death.
 
Here's why, even though Cap is my favorite Avenger, I want Steve to die:

Because I know that this is finishing his story-line. I know that in the future, when there's a big battle, Cap won't be present. So I would rather have my favorite Avenger go out honorably and sacrifice himself so others can live, than for him to "retire" and Steve just be absent from all future conflicts because he's choosing not to be there. That's not the Cap I know and love.

Give me a Chris Evans contract extension, or give me Caps death.

I just think there are other, more positive ways, for him to leave the fray. If I wanted to leave a theater with deep depression, I'd go to an indie theater and see a 70s Swedish movie.
 

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