Captain Marvel Captain Marvel costume thread

Or we cannot not. I want Carol to stand on her own. I'm already iffy on the first female hero to get her own movie needing to get her powers AND be "inspired" by a male character (none of the MCU's MALE heroes were "inspired" by others, let alone female ones, so there's that problematic element), but I can get past that. But do we really need to make her costume look like Mar-Vell's as well, no we don't. Let her stand on her own at least a little bit, not EVERYTHING needs to come from him.

War Machine/Iron Patriot was. He even got his 'powers' from Stark.
 
Studios are always looking for ways to get around the mask issue. They don't hire these actors to hide their faces all the time. Even characters that do have masks, such as Star-Lord don't where them all that often. Even with Thor, he's worn his helmet for all of one scene. Given that Carol's mask isn't an iconic part of her costume (in the way that someone like Cap's is), I wouldn't count on them including it.
 
But in Carol's case, the domino mask doesn't obscure her face that much (less so than Cap's or Batman's) so it's not that different from someone wearing a pair of goggles or sunglasses. She could wear it and we'd still see the actress pretty clearly.
 
Carol will be roughly their 30th MCU Superhero we're introduced to. I'm not sure she needs a plot reason to on a costume. She would've seen the battle of New York on TV, and would be aware of the Avengers. In a world with costumed Superheroes, doning a costume to fight crime when you gain powers becomes less of a stretch.

I wouldn't want the audience to feel like her costume is just another superhero costume, or her way of me-tooing the characters who wear what they wear for personal reasons. I'd want them to feel like it's special and personal and it means something emotionally all on it's own, other than just she wants to be like Steve and Tony.

Mask or no mask? BTW, does she only wear the mask part when she's in space?

No mask. It's pretty dumb logistically, and making it cool is not worth it because hiding her identity is not what Carol is about, so why try to make something that's gone out of style cool again? I could see some flying goggles or whatever.
 
When I said mask I was actually talking about the one that kind of makes it look like she's got a mohawk.
 
I wouldn't want the audience to feel like her costume is just another superhero costume, or her way of me-tooing the characters who wear what they wear for personal reasons. I'd want them to feel like it's special and personal and it means something emotionally all on it's own, other than just she wants to be like Steve and Tony.

That's one way to look at it, but I see it as Marvel will reach a point where they no longer have to contrive reasons for newly powered characters to suit up.
 
I doubt they'll keep the mask. Marvel don't really have secret identities in the movies and Carol will probably be no different.
 
Captain Marvel is actually the easiest character to justify using her mask. just say it's some sort of breathing/life support thing she wears for deep space travel. Have some sort of glass or transparent force field thing over the mouth and you're good to go. She wouldn't need to wear it for Earth scenes but during space fights it'd make sense.

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I love Dexter Soy's art. He's one of the only artists who handled that new mask design well, imo. The thing is, if the mask doesn't form itself much higher than her ears (and in the back it could stop even lower), then there's no "mohawk" to worry about. And yeah, it could be used strictly for spaceflight or whatnot.
 
This even makes that double stripe I hate so much look pretty good.
My main problem with the stripe is that it intersects the starbust (which is the same color) and thus breaks up its profile. From a distance, the starbust would just blend into the stripe, and not look distinct at all. Essentially, it violates the heraldic "Rule of Tincture".
 
So... starburst is a medallion, which she activates, it goes to her chest and the costume then forms around her?



:woot: That was my first thought as well. But then I would totally pay to see a movie with Carol shouting out "Kree Cosmic Power!" and getting her own transformation scene complete with sparkle background.

I like the idea, although I agree it should be something smaller, maybe something she can pin on the side of a jacket collar. What about the pin on her sash? Visually it's has a very "heroic costume change" feel to costume sort of "unravel" from the brooch, plus it would be a great actual transformation scene when Carol first suits up. Plus I'm sure they could do something with the effects that would look quite alien.

I've always liked the idea of it being a kree battle suit that Carol adopts due to Mar Vell, something sort of alien and that is as resistant in battle as she is (I mean, I assume any "normal" clothes would get ripped to shreds if Carol were hit with an energy blast; she can absorb them fine, but last I checked cotton just does NOT stand up to laser-gun technology - trust me kids, do not try it at home) all which gives her a solid reason to trade in the air force uniform for a more colorful costume. Hey, who are we too judge alien fashion sensibilities? I mean, look at what we were wearing in the 80s.....

Or we cannot not. I want Carol to stand on her own. I'm already iffy on the first female hero to get her own movie needing to get her powers AND be "inspired" by a male character (none of the MCU's MALE heroes were "inspired" by others, let alone female ones, so there's that problematic element), but I can get past that. But do we really need to make her costume look like Mar-Vell's as well, no we don't. Let her stand on her own at least a little bit, not EVERYTHING needs to come from him.

Cap's was inspired by a song and dance outfit, so that's pretty embarrassing...

I totally get where you're coming from. I want Carol to be able to stand on her own in more than one way (I'm really hoping her origin/stand-alone isn't TOO tied into IW:P1 to the extent where that movie is required viewing, because I want little girls to just be able to go and see it without having to catch up on the rest of the story). However, it's difficult to separate her origin from Mar Vell without a total redo (which I wouldn't be against so long as it still worked for the character). So working under the assumption that she will still be connected to Mar Vell, I think having her costume come from a Kree battle suit makes a lot of sense. And if you set it up as a generic Kree uniform than it might come off less as her "adopting" it from a male character and more as her taking on a, well, an alien suit (perhaps it could have special properties like space-safe and just generally destruction-proof/self repairing). I could see maybe her adding the sash so that she would stand apart although I'm not sure where she would get it or the reasoning they could use there.

Basically, if audience see whole Kree troops wearing some generic form of the uniform it will look less like a male hand-me-down and more like she's using general alien tech.

That's one way to look at it, but I see it as Marvel will reach a point where they no longer have to contrive reasons for newly powered characters to suit up.

You know, I honestly don't feel any of the reasons so far have been contrived. The closest case I can think of would be Captain America's, but that scene was beautiful and I regret nothing.

I do like how they have approached costumes and identity issues so far in the MCU. I hardly believe superhero movies need to be "grounded" but I do think you need to be able to strike a nice balance in order to carry off the more unrealistic aspects. You can have colorful costumes, just have a reasoning behind them that fits the character and it's all good.
 
I think this is the Moonstone version of her, but I absoulutely love this costume, I wouldn't mind seeing it as an alternate costume somewhere in the movie. They should still use her modern suit as her primary one.
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I have confidence that they'll find a way to design the mask or helmet in a believable way. Ironhead Studio has delivered many good designs for films that were under Marvel Studios and those licensed to Fox and Sony. What they also did for Michelle Pfieffer's Catwoman costume was better than what Anne Hathaway wore.

Personally, I hope they still deliver a mask that's as sleek as the one worn by the Silverhawks.
 
I imagine we'll get some added light or lining to make it seem more alien.
 
I want her to where that sexy bikini one peice suit she has with the mask. We need some sexy outfits in the MCU.
 
What? Black Widow isn't sexy enough for you? The current Captain Marvel outfit is just fine. The bathing suit was fine, but she's not going to fight evil looking like that.
 
Because for some people, female heroes looking "sexy" is the MOST important element of their costume. It's all about physical appearance, and other things like making them look credible as heroes are secondary to giving fans wank material. Hence the obsession with BW's haircut on the Avengers boards.
 
yeah, cuz discussing a character's look can only be sexism :o

the bikini would be ridiculous, and I want to see CM's current costume
but, BW's costume is only occasional sexy (TWS yes, Avengers no) so if the ladies get shirtless Thor every film, guys could at least get something

to want characters to fight in skintight suits is silly
but the "fan wank material" can go both ways, cuz right now the ladies are gettin the lions share
 
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Thor doesn't go out and fight evil shirtless. Nor does Cap.

Carol can have an "eye candy" scene for the guys in her downtime, I don't care (as long as the scene fits her tomboy-ish character, like a gym/workout scene or something) - but her hero costume should look badass and heroic, imo, just like the male costumes.
 
Carol is a flying brick and respected military officer. She is not a character reliant on her sex appeal. The traditional bathing suit look simply doesn't fit who the character is and how she acts.

flickchick85 said:
Carol can have an "eye candy" scene for the guys in her downtime, I don't care (as long as the scene fits her tomboy-ish character, like a gym/workout scene or something) - but her hero costume should look badass and heroic, imo, just like the male costumes.

Or something intimate, like a sex scene, although I wouldn't expect much of that in a Disney film.
 
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Thor doesn't go out and fight evil shirtless. Nor does Cap.

Carol can have an "eye candy" scene for the guys in her downtime, I don't care (as long as the scene fits her tomboy-ish character, like a gym/workout scene or something) - but her hero costume should look badass and heroic, imo, just like the male costumes.

yeah I agree
hence why I wouldn't want to see her in the bikini costume
her modern duds are perfect imo

but i gotta say even if Thor doesn't go out fighting shirtless, it has been pretty forced in there, not to mention the multitude of times I've seen Hugh Jackman's bare ass, or gifs of Chris Evans butt jiggling. Comic movies are pretty much the exact opposite of comic books, in terms of exploitative sexuality, i now understand how women feel when reading DC comics, lol
 
Because for some people, female heroes looking "sexy" is the MOST important element of their costume. It's all about physical appearance, and other things like making them look credible as heroes are secondary to giving fans wank material. Hence the obsession with BW's haircut on the Avengers boards.

Actually Thor did fight shirtlessonce against Apocolypse in the comics with his Axe Jarnjarborwhatever. But that's besides the point.


Nothing says the hero can't look attractive while fighting.
 

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