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[TX85]

Haven't seen Raw or read results yet but so is New Day falling more?

 

[javonstokess]

Haven't seen Raw or read results yet but so is New Day falling more?

A bit more, yeah. Xavier Woods told his crew to take the Wyatts seriously.

 

[Loki882]

Kind of hard to do that, when they tend to get job out in every feud that they're in (especially on PPV's). It kind of defangs them as heels when you keep doing that with them.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Kind of hard to do that, when they tend to get job out in every feud that they're in (especially on PPV's). It kind of defangs them as heels when you keep doing that with them.

They need to crucify somebody, like Undertaker did to Steve Austin.

 

[javonstokess]

They need to crucify somebody, like Undertaker did to Steve Austin.

Don't give Vince any ideas. He'd be crazy enough to have the Wyatts lynch Kofi Kingston during RAW.

 

[Loki882]

That's the thing, the Wyatt's are a cool concept and have potential. And with Undertaker's retirement seemingly not far off, and who knows how much longer Kane's got either, they could fill that same kind of niche that the BOD did in WWE.

But, it seems like Vince and co keep undercutting them at every turn, it's really bizarre.

 

[Slushy]

Kind of hard to do that, when they tend to get job out in every feud that they're in (especially on PPV's). It kind of defangs them as heels when you keep doing that with them.

Unfortunately, the only way to give credibility back to the Wyatts is for them to finally end the tag team title reign of The New Day at Battleground.

 

[SpideyVille]

I think The Wyatts definitely go over the New Day, but it will be a 6-Man tag match, so the belts won't be on the line.

 

[chamber-music]

That's the thing, the Wyatt's are a cool concept and have potential. And with Undertaker's retirement seemingly not far off, and who knows how much longer Kane's got either, they could fill that same kind of niche that the BOD did in WWE.

But, it seems like Vince and co keep undercutting them at every turn, it's really bizarre.

The Wyatts look like a monster heel stable but they are usually booked like jobbers.

Bray's solo win ratio is appalling. Seth Rollins, Jericho, the Miz, Kevin Owens and so on all win matches as heels far more than Bray Wyatt does.

By rights the stable looks like a ready replacement for Kane and the Undertaker but for whatever reason the higher ups blow hot and cold on them.

 

[javonstokess]

I maintain that it should have been Bray Wyatt to win that mini-tournament for the WWE championship after Seth Rollins got hurt.

He should have held it all the way until Wrestlemania.

 

[Tvar10]

You got to give AJ Styles credit....he was supposed to be a mid carder when he signed. Vince didnt see him become a main eventer. Now he headlined 2 PPVs and is feuding with Cena and actually gets people to boo him even tho his following is HUGE, and cheer for Cena (who always has a mixed crowd). He hasnt had a bad match yet and his mic skills are pretty darn good considering he barely talked when he debuted. I hope he becomes champion someday soon... Even if its the Smackdown Champion and he headlines the show, even tho I hope he stays on raw


I hope the Club gets a push too...they either beat people up or get beat up, they should be powerhouses but they're not used to their potential

 

[Pink Ranger]

I think The Wyatts definitely go over the New Day, but it will be a 6-Man tag match, so the belts won't be on the line.

I can see the belts being defended in a 6-man match with a special stip; I think it's been done before, but I can't recall specifically.

 

[javonstokess]

They should give AJ Styles the Intercontinental or US belt and the Club the Tag belts and let them have a long run.

 

[Wheels]

AJ is going to be one of the top guys on his particular brand and he's earned that in my opinion. As much as I think his first heel promo on Cena was massively overrated, the phony apology promo after MITB was really good, and his matches speak for themselves. I do believe that AJ has the right people believing in him right now

 

[Tvar10]

They should give AJ Styles the Intercontinental or US belt and the Club the Tag belts and let them have a long run.

I wouldnt have minded him having the IC title when he started. But now he clearly established himself as one of the top 5 superstars. If he goes for the IC title then its kind of like a demotion...go from fighting Jericho, to Reigns, to Cena......to the Miz? The Miz is good, but he's not on the level of Reigns or Cena

 

[SpideyVille]

I also thought he would be a great IC champ, but the problem is the belt has been so devalued, along with the US title, since WM. Granted, the US title lost all credibility the day ADR comes out of nowhere and whips Cena clean, just so he could go on vacation. Rusev is doing his best to bring it back, but the Titus feud just ins't doing it.

But the Miz being away and not defending the belt for almost a month has made it worse. Personally, I feel like Ziggler needs the IC belt, and he needs to stop being booked as a glorified jobber. But at this point, I wouldn't be surprised to see AJ win the Smackdown belt at some point this year, depending on who gets moved there. Also, with the 6-man match being set for Battleground, here's hoping that Cena doesn't get booked against AJ at Summerslam and bury him and the Club there.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

It'd be the roughest 3 way ever. Asuka probably wouldn't sell.

 

[Tvar10]

I also thought he would be a great IC champ, but the problem is the belt has been so devalued, along with the US title, since WM. Granted, the US title lost all credibility the day ADR comes out of nowhere and whips Cena clean, just so he could go on vacation. Rusev is doing his best to bring it back, but the Titus feud just ins't doing it.

But the Miz being away and not defending the belt for almost a month has made it worse. Personally, I feel like Ziggler needs the IC belt, and he needs to stop being booked as a glorified jobber. But at this point, I wouldn't be surprised to see AJ win the Smackdown belt at some point this year, depending on who gets moved there. Also, with the 6-man match being set for Battleground, here's hoping that Cena doesn't get booked against AJ at Summerslam and bury him and the Club there.

It all depends on the draft. I could see Cena and AJ go to Smackdown just to continue the rivalry. Its looking like thats the plan for Cena tho. theres NO way he would take a loss and not come back to win the rematch. Whens the last time he was feuding with someone and lost more than once. I remember Owens beat him the first time then I think Cena won the next 2?

I just hope AJ doesnt get buried when he loses to Cena

 

[Slushy]

You got to give AJ Styles credit....he was supposed to be a mid carder when he signed. Vince didnt see him become a main eventer. Now he headlined 2 PPVs and is feuding with Cena and actually gets people to boo him even tho his following is HUGE, and cheer for Cena (who always has a mixed crowd). He hasnt had a bad match yet and his mic skills are pretty darn good considering he barely talked when he debuted. I hope he becomes champion someday soon... Even if its the Smackdown Champion and he headlines the show, even tho I hope he stays on raw

Funny how McMahon will change his tune sometimes on talent when they start making him money.

 

[Loki882]

It'd be the roughest 3 way ever. Asuka probably wouldn't sell.

Asuka vs. Becky would be fantastic on a technical level. Asuka vs. Sasha would be fantastic on an emotional/storytelling level (just think of the faces that they be shooting each other the whole time, heck yeah)!

Also Asuka and Sasha as a tag team would be awesome as well.

 

[Loki882]

AJ needs to actually win this feud though (not that I expect him to of course). Because, while he's consistently awesome, his win/loss ratio since coming to WWE is, decidedly not great. And he just lost a feud to Roman Reigns to boot. Plus even his victory over Cena is tainted.

Also I've seen too many promising performers (Damien Sandow, the Wyatt's, Wade Barrett and the Nexus, etc) have their momentum stall or just disappear after running into the "Cena wall."

 

[Pink Ranger]

Asuka vs. Becky would be fantastic on a technical level. Asuka vs. Sasha would be fantastic on an emotional/storytelling level (just think of the faces that they be shooting each other the whole time, heck yeah)!

Also Asuka and Sasha as a tag team would be awesome as well.

Sasha vs. anybody would be dramatic, and would be an easy feud to write. The storyline could focus on the fact that Sasha is so ****ing over no matter what she does, almost ignoring the fact that she's a great worker as well. Jealousy is an easy motivation to understand.

 

[Dr. Evil]

So PWI says that Lesnar's likely opponent at Summerslam will be:

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[MMMMM...Pancakes]

So PWI says that Lesnar's likely opponent at Summerslam will be:

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[YT]wgSefgWp3Jg[/YT]

I wanted this match back in the early-mid 2000's. I hope it delivers if it comes true.

 

[OnTheAir]

WWE Superstars spoilers:

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WWE taped the following matches tonight in Columbus for this week's Superstars episode:

* The Shining Stars defeated Fandango and Tyler Breeze

* The Usos defeated The Ascension

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2016/0704/613268/spoilers-wwe-superstars-results/

WWE Main Event spoilers:

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WWE Main Event spoilers from tonight's tapings in Toledo, Ohio:

* Cesaro won a lengthy good back & forth match over Curtis Axel with a Sharpshooter

* Apollo Crews talks to JoJo backstage about Rusev

* Baron Corbin wins a quick match over Sin Cara with End of Days

* Goldust and R-Truth defeated The Ascension with Tyler Breeze and Fandango on commentary. Golden Truth got the win with a double team and had good support from the crowd. Another quick match

* Dolph Ziggler is out for commentary

* WWE United States Champion Rusev defeated Apollo Crews in a non-title match with The Accolade. Good back and forth match, Crews got a huge pop

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news...poilers-wwe-main-event-tapings-for-this-week/

WWE Smackdown spoilers:

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WWE SmackDown spoilers from tonight's tapings in Toledo, Ohio:

* WWE Champion Dean Ambrose kicks off SmackDown as the special guest ring announcer for Jey Uso vs. Seth Rollins

* Seth Rollins defeated Jey Uso. Ambrose trolled Rollins on the mic and made some funny announcements during the match to great reactions. Rollins won a lengthy match with a Pedigree. Ambrose and Rollins had words after the match. Ambrose called Rollins a jackass and Ambrose rushed the ring but Rollins ran away

* Zack Ryder defeated Sheamus with the diving elbow drop

* Tom Phillips interviews Ryder on the ramp and he says he has his momentum back, then challenges Rusev for the WWE United States Title

* Rusev is interviewed backstage by JoJo but he dismisses Ryder as a legit challenger. Apparently he will defend on Monday's RAW. Rusev with another anti-American speech

* Becky Lynch comes out for a match but Natalya attacks from behind. Natalya beats her down at ringside and applies a Sharpshooter to big heat. Referees finally get her off and Becky is helped to the back

* Sitdown interview with Xavier Woods. He talks about his fear of The Wyatt Family and says he will go to their compound with The New Day

* Enzo Amore and Big Cass come out to talk about saving John Cena on RAW. They're sending a message to The Club, to stop them from attacking Cena and everyone on the roster. AJ Styles, Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson come out with heel promos and comment on Cena not being here tonight. They threaten to beat up Enzo and Cass. Enzo roasts them after they call Cass a "butt nugget" and AJ challenges Enzo to a match.

* AJ Styles defeated Enzo Amore. Styles won a good match with the Styles Clash. There was some action on the outside between Cass and The Club

* Styles challenges Enzo and Cass to find a partner for a six-man later tonight, which may be the dark main event

* Chris Jericho is backstage looking for his blue scarf. Kevin Owens is wearing it and they have words. This was said to be a funny segment but kind of weird seeing Owens showing a humorous side on TV

* Kalisto vs. WWE Intercontinental Champion The Miz is made after Kalisto takes credit for throwing potato salad at Maryse on RAW

* The Miz defeats Kalisto in a decent match with a Skull Crushing Finale

* They aired the same Bob Backlund - Darren Young vignette from RAW

* Renee Young interviews Sasha Banks backstage. Dana Brooke and WWE Women's Champion Charlotte interrupt and Sasha vs. Dana is made for RAW

* Sami Zayn defeated Chris Jericho with Kevin Owens on commentary. The "ole!" chants started early and there were several near falls. The action went outside of the ring and Owens threw a drink at Sami, then Sami threw Jericho at Owens. Sami fought off a distraction from Owens and got the pin on Jericho with a roll-up. After the match, Jericho interrupted Sami's celebration with a Codebreaker. Owens then destroyed Sami and hit a pop-up powerbomb to end the show

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news...spoilers-wwe-smackdown-tapings-for-this-week/