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Check out this new interview posted on the hype front page from IF magazine.

Chances are pretty good, that if you hear the words, “It’s clobbering time!” that the ever-lovin’ Thing is somewhere nearby. That was true at the Fox winter party for their new seasons, when Michael Chiklis entered the courtyard. The actor who is as gruff and loveable as his FANTASTIC FOUR counterpart was only too happy to share a few minutes with iF MAGAZINE and talk about the new FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER movie. Fans will be thrilled to hear that they can look for more comic book phrases from the Thing, and Dr. Doom is out to get trashed by everyone’s favorite orange rock good guy once again.

iF MAGAZINE: This new trailer looked like you had more facial mobility than the first FANTASTIC FOUR movie?

MICHAEL CHIKLIS: They broke the mask into sections that made sense; underneath the eye and across my forehead so all the sections weren’t attached. When they were attached my facial muscles were fighting against each other and I had less mobility. Although, I felt like I moved the other mask pretty well.


iF: Was playing the Thing easier the second time around?


CHIKLIS: Much, much easier. It was the difference between unhealthy and uncomfortable. Uncomfortable I can deal with. I’m not a push over, I can deal with things, but the other situation was unhealthy and I had a lot of physical problems because of it. Not the least of those problems being in my own sweat for twelve to fourteen hours a day for six months. When you put your body through that for so many months, it really makes it tough to stay with it. This time they were able to take it off of me after every take.


iF: Are you still glad that you told Avi Arad you were Ben Grimm all of those years ago?


CHIKLIS: Yeah. [Laughs] You know why? When my daughter tells me that on Monday when she goes to school, her teacher wants her to bring in THE FANTASTIC FOUR so they can sit and watch the movie together during their free period, that’s why I’m really thrilled that I did that movie. It’s something that my children can watch. My kids for the last six years weren’t able to watch anything that daddy made. They were starting to doubt that I was an actor. My oldest was starting to think the name of my show was, “THE SHIELD, get out!” [Laughs]


iF: Any more signature phrases this time like “clobbering time” from the last film?


CHIKLIS: Oh we have a little spin on “it’s clobbering time” this time, but I can’t really divulge that because it would wreck it, but look for the spin on that.

iF: What did you think of the story this time around?

CHIKLIS: What’s fun about this time around, we didn’t have to lay down the same amount of origin tale track. We could just get right into it. In this kind of situation they have to take certain liberties with the original, but I still adheres to the point where any hardcore FOUR fan is going to be satisfied and SILVER SURFER fans are going to be psyched out of their minds. Weta is doing the effects and they’re an impressive house, just what I’ve seen so far of their effects is spectacular. Doug Jones did some phenomenal physical work to set the look for all of that. He was much more of a champion that I was about being in that costume. He’s used to being in them more, and I am now, but it isn’t something I want to make a career out of. [Laughs] At the end of the day, for this franchise, great.

iF: Were there a lot of re-writes?



CHIKLIS: Yeah, they were constantly tweaking. A lot of them didn’t really affect me; they affected Jessie [Alba] and Ioan [Gruffudd] more than me. There were a lot of additions as time went on with me, so they affected me in that way. I was added into scenes pretty consistently, and that’s always nice.

iF: Did you kick Julian McMahon’s ass again?

CHIKLIS: Not an ass kicking, but more of breaking a wall with him.
 
I noticed that they said they did a lot of rewrites for jessica and loan. I'm curious about this. I wonder if they toned down the love triangle Jessica was talking about before filming startedin respose to fan comments. Given that fact I wonder if Alicia's involvment with SS was increased.

[Edit] Also Chicklis mentioned that buzz word "liberties" and of course you wonder what he means.
 
I noticed that they said they did a lot of rewrites for jessica and loan. I'm curious about this. I wonder if they toned down the love triangle Jessica was talking about before filming startedin respose to fan comments. Given that fact I wonder if Alicia's involvment with SS was increased.

Here's hopin'! :up:
It's Alicia's most important scene in her character's history.
(Not saying it won't work another way.)
 
Here's hopin'! :up:
It's Alicia's most important scene in her character's history.
(Not saying it won't work another way.)


I know as a long time fan that is what you want, I have to say the opposite....to me the SS was a perfect way to bring out Sue's compassion in a way that we did not see in the first movie...also, it seems to me, that characters other than the 4 are being presented upfront....and sorry I will never be happy with that....so my hope is that the re-writes are in other areas of Sue and Reed....
 
This is the 1st things I have heard that temper my enthuasim a tad. "Liberties with the original", and a spin on "It's Clobbering Time". :huh: Why spin ? What is the matter with the original phrase ? :huh: What is he going to say ? It's slobbering time ? The Thing actually did say that once, can anyone think of where ? Good Trivia. :woot:
 
I know as a long time fan that is what you want, I have to say the opposite....to me the SS was a perfect way to bring out Sue's compassion in a way that we did not see in the first movie...also, it seems to me, that characters other than the 4 are being presented upfront....and sorry I will never be happy with that....so my hope is that the re-writes are in other areas of Sue and Reed....

Understandable.
What if Sue and Alicia were both there?

Kerry Washington has said she has a lot more to do in FF2, but I'm wondering what that is, other than being present at the wedding...
 
This is the 1st things I have heard that temper my enthuasim a tad. "Liberties with the original", and a spin on "It's Clobbering Time". :huh: Why spin ? What is the matter with the original phrase ? :huh: What is he going to say ? It's slobbering time ? The Thing actually did say that once, can anyone think of where ? Good Trivia. :woot:
That rings a bell. It had to do with crying, right?
Was it in a proper FF title or a parody?
Was it in an issue of The Thing - during "Assistant Editor's Month?"

Did I get it? Did I win? :woot:
 
Understandable.
What if Sue and Alicia were both there?

Kerry Washington has said she has a lot more to do in FF2, but I'm wondering what that is, other than being present at the wedding...

Maybe setting it up for the Puppetmaster in 3.....I don't know...its just another thing we have wait and see....
 
This is the 1st things I have heard that temper my enthuasim a tad. "Liberties with the original", and a spin on "It's Clobbering Time". :huh: Why spin ? What is the matter with the original phrase ? :huh: What is he going to say ? It's slobbering time ? The Thing actually did say that once, can anyone think of where ? Good Trivia. :woot:


I seem to recall it was from "What if?!" - the comedy issue of volume one of the original series.

"What if... the Thing was Blue?"

If it was from another issue in continuity... I don't recall... unless it was either Reed and Sue's wedding or the birth of Franklin.
 
That rings a bell. It had to do with crying, right?
Was it in a proper FF title or a parody?
Was it in an issue of The Thing - during "Assistant Editor's Month?"

Did I get it? Did I win? :woot:

Yup. I figured you'd get it. It was a parody of the FF. I believe it was in an issue of MAD, but do not hold me to that. It was not a comic. It was a parody in another publication. The last scene of the parody. Johnny is in full flame running for his life, ( and I mean running not flying in full flame on state ). with Reed, Sue, and Ben chasing him, and the huge baloon with the Thing saying It's Slobbering Time.
 
I know as a long time fan that is what you want, I have to say the opposite....to me the SS was a perfect way to bring out Sue's compassion in a way that we did not see in the first movie...also, it seems to me, that characters other than the 4 are being presented upfront....and sorry I will never be happy with that....so my hope is that the re-writes are in other areas of Sue and Reed....

Ehn...:o

IMO, the perfect way to bring out Susan's compassion is to refocus her energies on her family--especially Johnny (the first film showcased very little sisterly love there for him or vise versa--all that was written was arguments and catfights). If the writers are savvy enough, they'll find that there are ample opportunities for her to show more compassion to her brother and be a true protective Lioness in regards to him. And then of course, she has the love of her life, Reed.

That's why I'm annoyed at the notion that she's also involved with the Surfer. As if she's not already in the smack-dab center of all the other plotlines. To me, this is little more than a retread of the 2005 movie--with her 3-way with Doom and Reed. It reeks of Hollywoodism and it's unneccesary. There is enough untapped potential for Sue to channel her focus on without also having to get in the mix with Norrin.

Let someone else--preferably someone who has been seriously underused--have a chance to shine. Like um...Alicia...:oldrazz:
 
Ehn...:o

IMO, the perfect way to bring out Susan's compassion is to refocus her energies on her family--especially Johnny (the first film showcased very little sisterly love there for him or vise versa--all that was written was arguments and catfights). If the writers are savvy enough, they'll find that there are ample opportunities for her to show more compassion to her brother and be a true protective Lioness in regards to him. And then of course, she has the love of her life, Reed.

That's why I'm annoyed at the notion that she's also involved with the Surfer. As if she's not already in the smack-dab center of all the other plotlines. To me, this is little more than a retread of the 2005 movie--with her 3-way with Doom and Reed. It reeks of Hollywoodism and it's unneccesary. There is enough untapped potential for Sue to channel her focus on without also having to get in the mix with Norrin.

Let someone else--preferably someone who has been seriously underused--have a chance to shine. Like um...Alicia...:oldrazz:

Where????? I've only seen ONE plotline so far....

Payne himself said this is not a love triangle....I don't see it as a retread at all......

theres enough shining on another character as it is....IMHO...:o

With interaction between Reed, the Surfer and Sue.....we get, hopefully.....a more scientific Reed, in the fact that, speculation on my part.....hopefully the fire between SS and Reed is in the area of Science.....and we get to see Sue's compassion.....neither of which we saw in the first movie....as far as I'm concerned....so to me....doing it this we see more characterization of two of the main characters rather than 2 secondary characters....just my thoughts...
 
This is the 1st things I have heard that temper my enthuasim a tad. "Liberties with the original", and a spin on "It's Clobbering Time". :huh: Why spin ? What is the matter with the original phrase ? :huh: What is he going to say ? It's slobbering time ? The Thing actually did say that once, can anyone think of where ? Good Trivia. :woot:

I think that they want to bring some originality to ben's "Clobbering Time". I will wait and see what but I think it will be on the order of What time is it? or something like that.

The "liberties" word is cringe inducing however as we are all wondering how Galactus is going to go. Doom should be an improvement and Thing has been, but still no word not even a photo leak of Galactus. This is making me a little edgy. But lets wait and see how things go.
 
I agree. In the comic, Alecia was the 1st one to come in contact with the Surfer. Sue does indeed have plenty to do without a rehashing of a love trinagle between Sue, Reed, and the Surfer.
 
I think that they want to bring some originality to ben's "Clobbering Time". I will wait and see what but I think it will be on the order of What time is it? or something like that.

The "liberties" word is cringe inducing however as we are all wondering how Galactus is going to go. Doom should be an improvement and Thing has been, but still no word not even a photo leak of Galactus. This is making me a little edgy. But lets wait and see how things go.

In my opion, the 1st time they did it was wroung. When Doom says " It's time to end this ", and Ben comes crashing thru the wall, instead of saying "No Vic, It's clobbering time", what he should have said is "wroung Doom, IT'S CLOBBERING TIME ". Put some emotion behind that punch. As for Galacuts, he will more then likley be total CGI. So to have a pic now, would be a bit premature. As for Doom, that has to be the best kept secret in hollywood. Not a pic, or a peep of what his costume looks like.
 
Where????? I've only seen ONE plotline so far....

Payne himself said this is not a love triangle....I don't see it as a retread at all......

theres enough shining on another character as it is....IMHO...:o

With interaction between Reed, the Surfer and Sue.....we get, hopefully.....a more scientific Reed, in the fact that, speculation on my part.....hopefully the fire between SS and Reed is in the area of Science.....and we get to see Sue's compassion.....neither of which we saw in the first movie....as far as I'm concerned....so to me....doing it this we see more characterization of two of the main characters rather than 2 secondary characters....just my thoughts...


I see your point. But I still believe the metaphorical brilliance of Alicia/Surfer's connection is being wasted.
 
In my opion, the 1st time they did it was wroung. When Doom says " It's time to end this ", and Ben comes crashing thru the wall, instead of saying "No Vic, It's clobbering time", what he should have said is "wroung Doom, IT'S CLOBBERING TIME ". Put some emotion behind that punch. As for Galacuts, he will more then likley be total CGI. So to have a pic now, would be a bit premature. As for Doom, that has to be the best kept secret in hollywood. Not a pic, or a peep of what his costume looks like.

You're "wroung"! :o
 
You're "wroung"! :o

According to you. But anytime in the early issues, when The Thing said it's clobbering time, there was a power packed puch behind that. In the comic, The Thing would have put Doom thru the wall, he would not just hit it, and when The Thing clobbered you, you did not useually get up.
That whole scene was disapointing for me. Exciting, but disapointing at the same time. They botched that whole thing. The emotion, the drama, the action should have been sky high for that scene. And the thing that irked me was, Chilkis said they did 20 takes, and that was the best one ?
 
I have to agree with Lightning, using Sue with SS is cliche and to me not as doesn't have as much impact as using Alicia

but since Fox cut out all her scenes last go around, there was probably no where else to go then to use Sue in Alicia's place. Even if Alicia's scenes were still intact there was still a huge chance of the role being put on Sue, for pace sake(not Fox's definition) I'm talking about from a good adaption stand point, even with Alicia's scenes there would still be a 50/50 chance.

I may not like it but I understand it and will have to live with it
 

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