Christopher Nolan's Inception

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#3 on the IMBD Top 250? ****ing really?

Don't trust IMDB on current films. Its gonna fall. The Dark Knight for sometime was #1, and then it fell.


This film's gonna make back its budget. It has good chance to pass $200 million domestically. The word of mouth has been mostly good and it looks like one of those films that will have legs. Plus its hasn't even been released Worldwide and films like Inception tend to due really well Worldwide.
 
Tried to go to a 4:15 showing today at a regular theater. I got there an hour and a half early, but it was already sold out.
 
I'm usually don't see movies twice in the theaters so I'm pretty sure I'm waiting for DVD for my second viewing. I won't know till then if it's better or not the second time around. Funny enough TDK is the only film that I've seen twice in theaters but that wasn't because of any undying love for the flick, it was because I had a free pass and nothing else was out.
 
Don't know if this was posted but wow this sounds about right..

From another forum.

Basically... the whole movie was, from scene one, about the team conning Cobb into retirement, because they had become aware that his subconscious was jeopardizing their work -- and potentially their lives. He simply couldn't be trusted to keep working, but they knew he would never stop until he was reunited with his kids -- something that was all but impossible, as he couldn't enter the States and - from the sounds of the unhappy grandmother on the phone - she blamed Cobb for Mal(her daughter)'s death, and wasn't letting them leave the States, either. So... Miles(Michael Caine) and the team (including Saito and Ariadne) created an alternative answer.

From the very beginning, it was set up to ultimately retire Cobb into a dream that brought him peace, and one he could believe was real, be it real or not. The whole story with Saito vs. Fischer was simply a setup that required Cobb to return to his limbo to confront his guilt over the death of his wife, because he would never believe any reality in which she was still haunting him(making her memory his totem?).

The only force that could commit him to face his wife was the chance of seeing his kids again, so the whole idea was to pit the two realities against each other, and gamble that he'd sacrifice the right one in favor of the other.

The whole plan kicked into gear by making him go to Mombasa, where he met with Eames and was then conveniently chased right into the car of Saito, who was in Mombasa to "protect his investment"... pretty nifty timing, eh? Eames shows up, and just so happens to know a guy who makes experimental elixirs(Yusuf)... oh, and also just happens to have his own dream farm in his basement, heh. Once there, Cobb tries out the elixir, sees brief flashes of his wife and then wakes up, flustered. Cut to him washing his face in a sink, and then goes to spin the top to verify reality -- only the top falls off of the counter, onto the floor, and before he can pick it up, he's distracted.

Reality was never confirmed from this point forward throughout the entire movie.

He was unknowingly corralled to Mombasa to be sent to the dream farm by his very own team, where he could live in the dream of his/their choosing indefinitely(I mean, sure, we were told that they only dream for about 40 hours at a time, but who's to say that wasn't a lie, and that it wasn't just a retirement home for thieves?). Opposition(the Mombasa chase, shrugged off as Cobol agents) was even staged to make it realistic to Cobb, because - just as it played out with Fischer - Cobb had to believe he was in control the whole time. It had to be his choices that got him there for him to really believe it.

So... from there, the dream within a dream within a dream was all an elaborate setup to get Cobb to confront himself. I'm also assuming that Ariadne wasn't the architect, but was placed there by his Dad and the team to be his guide -- the true architect being Lucas Haas' character, the original team's architect that was tied up and dragged away at the beginning(as Cobb said himself, it's not a good idea to bring the architect inside, so he was conveniently removed from the picture to work behind the scenes).

Once he entered limbo, confronted the memory of his wife, saved Saito and returned home... that was all still a dream, but one he could finally believe wholeheartedly; one he had achieved.

His friends, his dad... everyone he knew realized that he would never stop trying to get back home - something he could never do in real life - so they created this as his retirement gift; a reality where he could come to terms with his past and live in peace with the future he always wanted.

Did the top fall over? Probably. I'm assuming that the totems have no special powers; they only reflect the owner's subconscious belief. If the owner truly believe he or she is in reality - body, mind and soul - the totem will reflect that accordingly... whether it's true or not. What might be more telling is... he walked away from it completely. It didn't really matter anymore.

Ahhhhhhh ..... see now it really does all make complete sense to me. I kept thinking back to .....

......the first architect and how we was carried off by the Cobol guys. Should tell everyone everything they need to know.
 
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It was a good size. I think it was actually the same size as a LieMAX screen. :funny: And the theater was one of the nicest I've been to. They had a little gift shop at the front with books about auteur filmmakers. :funny:

The theaters immediately around here are still under $10 for a matinee, it was just that one that threw me for a loop. Maybe Arclight is a super-fancy chain, I'd only heard about the one in downtown LA. I saw a Watchmen screening there and I recall the screen was pretty huge even though it wasn't IMAX.

How big is the LieMAX screen? :woot: Thank God I have a real IMAX. A gift shop? That sounds pretty cool actually. I love big theaters. To me, it's the real experience.

$10 dollars for matinee? My God, that's ridiculous. My nighttime showings aren't even $10 dollars. Matinee here is $6.25, early bird if 5 bucks, later is $9.75.
 
How big is the LieMAX screen? :woot: Thank God I have a real IMAX. A gift shop? That sounds pretty cool actually. I love big theaters. To me, it's the real experience.

$10 dollars for matinee? My God, that's ridiculous. My nighttime showings aren't even $10 dollars. Matinee here is $6.25, early bird if 5 bucks, later is $9.75.
Ummm, I'm bad with actual dimensions of things. Maybe 3 stories tall? I saw the Avatar preview on LieMAX and maybe it was 4 stories tall.

It still depends on the theaters here. Matinees are about $8-$9 now on average, evening shows $11. AMC still has their $6-before-noon pricings, which is what I did to see The Prestige way back when. :funny:

There's a $2 theater here but I hear it's really dirty and obviously it's a second run theater. But it'll work if you aren't too picky and can wait. :funny:
 
Ummm, I'm bad with actual dimensions of things. Maybe 3 stories tall? I saw the Avatar preview on LieMAX and maybe it was 4 stories tall.

It still depends on the theaters here. Matinees are about $8-$9 now on average, evening shows $11. AMC still has their $6-before-noon pricings, which is what I did to see The Prestige way back when. :funny:

There's a $2 theater here but I hear it's really dirty and obviously it's a second run theater. But it'll work if you aren't too picky and can wait. :funny:

My IMAX screen was five stories tall. That sucks they're passing off fake IMAX screens. There's nothing quite like the IMAX experience. Especially Avatar in IMAX 3D and TDK in IMAX. :wow:

I have a $1 dollar theater. I don't go to it much but I remember seeing the first National Treasure there years ago. But I'm not patient or cheap. I'm willing to pay money for a film. Although being 18 there's alot of things on your mind where you have second thoughts on things.

Inception or car? Inception or car? :awesome: I just need a job.
 
As far as box office success. A movie needs to make about 1.5 times the money spent on production.

Also, you spend an additional .5 times the budget on marketing. So, for $160mil, they spent roughly $80mil on advertising and marketing.

So, the movie would need to make $360mil to be considered a success for the studio. ($160 + $80 = $240, then $240 x 1.5 = $360)

(On a side note, I took a business of film class in college and honest to god, this is the only time I've ever used anything I learned in that class. But, it was still an awesome class.)
 
AMC took over our IMAX theater.

16 ****ing dollars for an IMAX ticket. Used to be 12.50.
 
It cost more than 160mil, that 160mil number is a bulls**t number that the studio is peddling. You can look at the film and tell it cost more than that. And I'm 100% sure it cost more than 80mil to market. Like most big movies it had to cost atleast 100mil to market.
 
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This is the thing, I think the film itself defies interpretation.

Any one person saying the film is THIS or THAT is simply being arrogant. Like a dream, Nolan brings us into the dream so we can fill it with our subconscious -- our own interpretation of the dream. We drop into the dream and we wake up from the dream with no beginning or ending -- just the middle.

The idea that the totem falls at that point is moot since Cobb is using Mal's totem, so even the "reality" checks were false at times -- or at the very least extremely suspect.

Everything in that movie is defined "just enough" to make us happy, but to give us no clear

And argument could easily be made that the entire movie was Cobb and his team incepting an idea in Saito's head to get Cobb back home using his connections, making Saito think he offered the arrangement but in reality we were three dreams in from the start of the film.
 
The movie was brilliant! I can't wait to see it again! 10/10

It was liemax but still a great experience. Big picture and intense sound.

Admittedly the movie does start off slow, but once it gets going...Man!!!! I can't believe the reviewers who said this movie lacks emotion...that is ridiculous! I became very emotional during certain scenes, Nolan just has a way of doing that with quick cutaways. Leo and Cotiard had some intense moments. And as far as characters...this is one of the best casts ever assembled! The whole time you don't want anything bad to happen to anyone, you feel for them.
the whole time JGL was fighting in anti gravity I was thinking "please survive, don't die!!!" same with Tom Hardy when he's taking on a whole snow army, your just going "holy crap dude don't die!"

it was edge of your seat stuff, a race against time! A seriously thrilling experience! It works, because this is how Nolan wants this world to work. But if you start over analyzing "oh thats not how dreams work" and stuff your just gonna start to pick your brain apart more than you need to about whether that made it good or not.

This time...Nolan deserves his Oscar nomination and a win! He got robbed last time but this time he'd better get the recognition he deserves. No director out there could have pulled this off.
 
Im not worried about this film...I saw this film 3 times already. People will watch this movie again and word of mouth will spread like wildfire.
 
I don't think he deserved a nom for TDK but for this movie yeah...not that the Oscars mean anything real.
 
I guess...

I really think it all comes down to the term "dreamer".
This is a fake dream being fed into several peoples subconscious at once. While one person may know the layout and plans etc, it is incorrect to label them "the dreamer" because they are all sharing in a manufactured dream. Cillian Murphy was clearly creating projections in level 2, despite Gordon-Levitt being "the dreamer"...and the "dreamer" is the one who's supposed to populate the world, and yet Gordon-Levitt did not. I get why he didn't...his projections would recognize Murphy as an intruder and attack him. However, if the mark has the same ability to project as the dreamer, then the difference is who knows they are dreaming and who doesn't. Therefore, they are all "dreamers" and the person labeled the "dreamer" is actually more of a "controller" or "point man" or whatever.

I think it is a more convenient way to put it. Could Yusif forgetting to piss and the subsequent rain been a part of his own sub conscience? That's a better way of interpreting it unless there is evidence otherwise. Not gonna re-read the arguments last night, **** gave me a headache. To minimize the ambiguity, I'd like to think they are all having the same dream. The manipulators are aware and therefore have more control. The point main merely knows the lay out and stays in that dream. Maybe the, "it's my dream" means that he is simply the guy quarterbacking it whilst the other team members that move on to the deeper level can no longer call the previous lvl their own dream, since they are unconscious in it. I have only seen the movie once, but that would certainly be easier to grasp than everyone being in this guy's dream or that guys.
 
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It doesn't bother me because I AM a loner. :funny:

You just have to have the confidence that you don't care if you're a loner or not, that's when people think you're cool instead of a loser. :cwink:

Didnt go in the end, girlfriend gets back on wednesday so will probably see it on friday.
 
True they don't but I for one think he deserved it for TDK. It was one of the reasons why they increased the Best Picture category to 10. TDK could have definitely fit in there. With those ****** nominations? Blech.

Inception will no doubt be put in this year. It's how the academy works. They fell they will owe Nolan a best picture slot because they didn't nominate TDK. And if this film makes more, it gives it another reason to put it in the slot because it would increase ratings.
 
I wasn't stating my opinion as fact or anything I just don't think that he deserved the best director nod in 2009.

Anyway, in my opinion Inception is the first time Nolan has created a good action sequence. I hope the action scenes in the upcoming Batman movie follows suit.
 
And as far as characters...this is one of the best casts ever assembled! The whole time you don't want anything bad to happen to anyone, you feel for them.
the whole time JGL was fighting in anti gravity I was thinking "please survive, don't die!!!" same with Tom Hardy when he's taking on a whole snow army, your just going "holy crap dude don't die!"
You know who I felt bad for?

YUSUF! The poor guy is a chemist and doesn't usually go into the field, and all of a sudden he finds himself having to babysit six sleeping bodies in a van with all of these dudes shooting at him! :funny:
 
I wasn't stating my opinion as fact or anything I just don't think that he deserved the best director nod in 2009.

Anyway, in my opinion Inception is the first time Nolan has created a good action sequence. I hope the action scenes in the upcoming Batman movie follows suit.

Nah, I wasn't thinking that at all. The nominations for the primary categories that year were bland and just bad. It was so typical and none were really deserved. Except Boyle. Though I'm still surprised he has an Oscar myself.

No love for the convoy chase in TDK? I can understand the others, but that was very well done.
 
You know who I felt bad for?

YUSUF! The poor guy is a chemist and doesn't usually go into the field, and all of a sudden he finds himself having to babysit six sleeping bodies in a van with all of these dudes shooting at him! :funny:

Especially when he asked, "Did you see that?" And no response. :woot:
 
Maybe I set myself up for it because I have the nerv to actually criticize (and sometimes I do just f**k around with the zealots, sue me!) some things in Nolans films. I find it funny how people jump on every non postive statement I make about his films but almost never the postive ones. I guess that would mess up the I SEE SPIDEY is a Nolan hating troll naritive.
 
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You know who I felt bad for?

YUSUF! The poor guy is a chemist and doesn't usually go into the field, and all of a sudden he finds himself having to babysit six sleeping bodies in a van with all of these dudes shooting at him! :funny:

same here.

"did you guys just see that?!" after rolling the van

got a big laugh. :yay:
 
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