Christopher Young: The Good Music

[spideyman101]

I've noticed that often times people keep blabbing and bashing the bad music in the film, and I will admit there were a couple of parts that were horrible... mainly the armoured car chase when Sandman overcame the car with sand, and the badly placed music when Spidey was hanging upside down (but the editors could have taken that out if they wanted to).

But people NEVER talk about the good music he did. I'm watching Spider-Man 3 right now and I'm recognizing a LOT of good music that isn't Danny Elfman originals.

The Sandman theme
The SM3 Uncle Ben theme
The symbiote theme
The Battle Royal theme (Danny Elfman bits mixed in)
Drive Your Funky Soul - James Brown
Belltower scene music (not as good as it could have been)

there's plenty more, but that's all I've recognized.

But still, there are PLENTY of terrific Christopher Young peices in this movie. Sure not all of them are good, but why doesn't anyone focus on anything good in this movie!?!?!

People also complain about Venom's appearance wasn't long enough... listen idiots! We were dang lucky just to even GET Venom! We got the transformation, we got his dialogue with Sandman, we got his dialogue with MJ, we got a 12 minute fight scene half of it dealing mostly with him!

And we got a semi-good death for him. Point making that he wasn't willing to give up that power, so that, in the end destroyed him!

If we had Raimi's way (and I'm not bashing Raimi) we would'nt have even gotten Venom... so people, be happy and just shut up.

By the way, personally, I think the movie would've been even better if it focused on New Goblin and Sandman and added the transformation of Venom and have the Battle Royal (and maybe one more fight scene, and more Venom dialogue and story) in the beginning of the 4th one and then focus on Lizard and Kraven in the 4th afterwards, then have a leadup to Carnage (for the 5th film). But hey, I'm not complaining.

Spider-Man 3 was good.

 

[The Chris]

I like the music from Sandman's confession to Peter to Harry's death scene.

 

[DarthDaveBanner]

Venom's theme was great. Sandman's theme was great. Peter vs Goblin round 1 was great. Sandman's birth was the best music of he trilogy.


Everything else wasn't up to par with Elfman.

(And is it just me or does the symbiote theme give you flashbacks of Goldenthal's Batman scores?)

 

[spider-neil]

imho elfman hasn't written anything in SM1/SM2 as emotionally moving as young's sandman birth and elfman hasn't written anything in SM1/SM2 as exciting as young's the train sequence.

 

[dodus]

I can't believe you guys are down with Sandman's theme (not the birth music). I loved Doc Ock's because it was a bit campy and tongue-in-cheek, pretty blatantly "Here comes the bad guy!", and it felt like Young's Sandman theme was a failed attempt at replicating that...it was 100% corny but devoid of the irony. I'm wondering though, why you guys liked it?

One thing I did love, was the symbiote Spidey theme. I know there's a lot of hate for it, because it was so "big", but it struck me as the only music with balls Young composed in the entire movie.

 

[ManSpider412]

I have to admit there were some very well scored scenes, but when the music was bad it complete crap. Most peolple tend to remember the bad over the good, Like from when Peter walks out of the Jazz club to the birth of Venom IMO, the music is really really good. But people talk about the annoying 3 horn smybiote theme much more. I think the Symbiote theme would have been 10x better if it had been simply a deep dark and gothic version of spidey theme, like in the bell tower but a deeper choir.

 

[TheCaretaker]

i loved most of the music by chris young in 3 especially the venom and symbiote themes.

 

[fallenAngel]

I liked the music. Just like everything else in the movie it didn't have the best flow which is sort of bad because music is one of the main connection devices from scene to scene. The black spider man theme was a bit over the top, but I thought it at least worked in the subway fight, which would have worked better if there was more buildup to the theme. Instead of it just popping out of nowhere........which the Symbiote actually did.

 

[batman11]

Does anyone know if the score is out yet?

 

[webhead731]

No I don't think they'll make one.

I didn't care for most of Young's music. I did like some though. Elfman's was amazing as usual. Especially some of the editing and new parts to his music.

Examples of Young's music that was good:
The battle with New Goblin and Peter (some parts of it were kind of meh though)
Sandman's birth
Scene with Spider-Man on the belltower and into him ripping it off and Eddie getting it
Final battles
Song when we first see Venom swinging

And a few more.


Did anyone think that the choir pieces in the Symbiote Spider-Man theme sounded an awful lot like the Ghost Rider theme's choir pieces?

 

[lordofthenerds]

The New Goblin fight's music was really the only piece of Christopher Young's score I found to be exceptional. Other than that the only other bits of his music I found to be somewhat good were for the belltower, the Venom part of the final battle, and Sandman's birth. Everything else he did was either meh or pissy imo.

 

[batman11]

No I don't think they'll make one.

Damn, I really wanted the score. I love film music, and I really wanted to listen to Young's Spidey score away from the movie, even if it isn't that exceptional. Hopefully they'll put one out there some time in the future.

 

[Robotchicken]

i love the symbiote theme, especually when he first gets it and he walks in from doc. connors and he hears the police radio and he reaches for his red suit and he looks down on the chest and then it cuts to him swinging and slingshoting to the bank....and when he first gets it and swing through the city for the 1st time. i also like the song when peter walks out from the jazz club and realises what hes been doing and looks up at the church...


Venoms theme owns too

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I loved Venoms theme. I also loved the bell tower theme. It was great to hear the Goblins theme again. The Sandman birth theme was excellent IMO. I also loved a few other songs as well. I don't think Young is the best but he did have good songs. But Elfman without a doubt is the master of Music. The Venom theme is creepy and cool and fits Venom perfectley. The Goblin Theme is creepy because now Harry is following in his fathers footsteps so it's sort of like passing the crown to the son and thats why the Music is there because Harry is picking up where his father left off. The Birth of Sandman theme is emotional because he's trying to stay in one peice but he falls apart and can't even grab his necklace with his daughters picture in it.

 

[DACrowe]

I think it's because while the Sandman theme (particularly in the birth of scene and when and Peter have a "chat" at the end of the movie) is great and the music when Harry dies is ver moving and just perfect....

all his other additions either went unnoticed or were below Elfman's standard, and by that I mean the Venom/Symbiote theme which was awful. The overuse of it during the introduction of the black suit was noticably bad. The rest is a rehash of Elfman's themes but lacking the level of epic grandeur of how Elfman organized it in the first two movies save for Harry's funeral.

Just my opinion though.

 

[Seen]

If an official soundtrack isn't released, then surely a bootleg version of the score will eventually find its way online, much like Young's music for Spider-Man 2 has been available (if you know where to look).

 

[Bat Attack]

Does anyone know why it won't be released on CD? They released elfmans two scores for spidey 1 & 2.

 

[Hoedowned]

If an official soundtrack isn't released, then surely a bootleg version of the score will eventually find its way online, much like Young's music for Spider-Man 2 has been available (if you know where to look).

Come again?

 

[Uncle_Ben]

I think the Sandman theme was great, both the music during the transformation as well as his own villainous theme...

The symbiote theme worked great as well... got goosebumps when it kicked in when Black spidey was hanging upside downt:

 

[UltimateJustin]

I think it was a good call to play the symbiote theme during the intro, that increased the dopeness of hearing it when he wakes up hanging by that building. I also liked the jazz funk street fight score for the second fight with Harry, Sandman's theme and all the light/sad themes which is what I think Young does best. Young is admittably pretty cheesy, but I liked his GR score too.

 

[e-three]

The music played during the opening credits was terrible. It obviously started out fine with the customary Spider-Man theme but the inserted symbiote/Sandman themes were so out of place that it literally felt like I was listening to a cassette, like someone accidentally recorded over a previously recorded song. Didn't flow at all. Not to mention that the symbiote theme was horrible...it sounded straight out of Batman Forever, and that is NOT a compliment.

But before someone directs me to the "Young's music sucks!" thread, the things I mentioned above are really the only problems I have with his score. Everything else was pretty good, the often mentioned "birth of Sandman" scene in particular. Sandman's themes felt really out of place in the opening credits piece, but fit in just fine within the actual movie. So although I missed Elfman, Young carried the reigns pretty well.

 

[webhead731]

The Symbiote theme was good, just not for a dark Spider-Man. It needed to be lower, a men's choir maybe. Could've been cooler.

I just remembered another bit of music I liked. It was Elfman's, but I don't know if Young had something to do with it.

Before the final battle when Peter pulled his extra costume out of the case and was holding it.

 

[The Shape]

I really wish Elfman would have done this whole movie. I couldn't get into Young's music. In fact, it often took me out of the movie. The only part of his original music I liked was in Harry's death scene.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Where can I purchase the CD of the Instrumentals of the movie?

 

[note235]

"purchase?"
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