City Of Berkley Clashes With Marines

I think that this is a Display of Digusting Disregard for what these Marines to Protect and Defend these AssH***es Rights. I'm glad that the City's Citizens decided to take back they city by telling the City Council that they better Apoligize or they are out of a Job.

I'm not saying that they have to agree with the War, but they should respect the People who defends their Rights to be able to disagree.

 

Ehhhhhh. Those boys in the marines dont go out and do it for fun; they are sent there. Hate the people sending them there, not the actual people.

 

That is true. Hate the Mission if you will. Respect the People that have the Testicular Fortitude to Defend us.

 

Yeah, those cats are kinda giving the people who don't like the War and such a bad name.

Unless these guys were doing some scandalous ****, like going to elementary schools with a mascot named Marty the Murderin' Marine or something like that, they have the right to do what they're doing.

 

Its Berkley, who expects more?

 

Damn dirt munching tree hugging druids...
they piss me off

 

They have the right to protest, and the marines have the right to stay there.

I continue on with my day unchanged

 

I agree

 

Yeah we talked about it in my class today. My instructor (who has been in the army for 16 years now) told us some of the best advice we will probably ever have. He said "for the most part, American citizens will hate you until they need you"
And while "hate is a rather strong word, I can see his point. Before 9/11 and we went to war with Iraq again (back when the war was popular) people didn't so much hate military, but they didn't really care that much. Once that war happened there was a huge outpouring of love and affection for all military, and it continues (abeit quite a bit less) to this day.

 

Yes, they DO have the right to act like scumsucking ***holes and dishonor our troops. A right which they shouldn't have.

 

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it - traditionally attributed to Voltaire

 

I personally think Code Pink and every group which opposes this war has a right to protest however they want to as long as it doesn't interfere with the laws of this country. I don't think Berkley has the right to ban the Marines from their city, both from a legal and personal standpoint.

Now, I also agree they should be allowed to protest our troops, but to a tasteful extent. For example, I think if protesters were to protest the treatment of prisoners at Abu Garhab (sp) and other disgusting behavior, then they have the right to do so as long as its done in an orderly fashion. But I think it's deplorable for the Westboro Baptist Church to picket soldiers' funerals with signs that read GOD HATES ***S, simply because they're acting completely irrational and disrespectful over the issue. I agree with the Senate resolution which banned the WBO from protesting within a certain distance of a soldier's funeral. Some things are simply unacceptable.

 

People should have the right to protest our government, as others have said--but NOT the men and women who are selflessly protecting our very freedom to live, including the freedom of those scumbags out their in sunny California.

 

If they want to protest the military, that is their right to do so, even if baby doesn't agree with it

 

I strongly disagree. But I guess disagreements form the foundations of this forum.

 

I applaude the people for protesting and denying the Marines access. Hate the Government for starting the useless Iraq war,but hate the soliders for going there even more. Because they can refuse...but they do not.

 

How can they refuse? I don't quite remember the amount, but getting caught going AWOL is a prison sentence.

 

Refuse? Wow...do you have ANY idea how military service works?

 

No they cannot refuse. The military is not a democracy. If you're ordered to go somewhere you have no choice to say yes or no, you go there.

If you refuse you can be sent to prison for a while. I have a friend who went AWOL during boot camp and he was sent to jail as a result.

These people just give the anti-war movement a bad name and should be ashamed of themselves.

 

Dude, he makes statements before knowing the facts all the time

 

I think its deplorable for any entity to ban military recruiters, whether its a high school, college or a city. Military recruiters don't coerce or force people to join. They don't kidnap innocent kids and threaten to kill their families unless they join the military. It's a choice left up to the individual, not the community. If a person doesn't want to join, they can refuse. I've done so many times, but I certainly don't think "geeze, those damn military recruiters! What evil scumbags "

Once that individual decides to join the military, they enter a contract. A contract much like employment, so when they are deployed overseas, they have no choice but to go over there and fight. Most of them don't raise a fuss, because they signed up to defend our country, not so they can go on a four-year vacation to Haiti. It's just how the job works, and like it or not, they have no choice, and they deserve respect for what they are forced to do.

Like I said earlier, the only excuse for protesting the troops is if people protested a certain group's actions, such as raping or randomly targeting civilians... something which is very, very rare. I've protested this war several times, and not once have I held up a sign disgracing the men and women who fight for this country. I've held up signs which say "Bring Our Troops Home," but I don't think that's disrespectful in the least bit. Implying that all of our troops are evil, though... that's out of line, and I wouldn't protest with anyone who held up a sign which even implied this war was our the fault of our troops. It was the fault of three people, all three of which were in government.

Your statements are always oblivious of how America works. You know nothing of this country, and that strangely becomes more apparent with every post you make.

 

Exactly. The draft was ceased in the mid 70s, after the Vietnam War. For a little over 30 years, the military is voluntary. When a person decides to join, it should be a matter of common sense to know "if my country goes to war, i'll have to serve". If the individual doesn't or didn't know that before going in, then that person failed to do their homework

 

What planet do you live on?

 

Reading this actually gave me a f'n headache.

NO, just........no.