Civil War In The Dcu?

[Chris Wallace]

If the governemnt introduced a "Superhuman Registration Act" in the DCU, what do you think would happen? Who'd fight it & who'd go along with it?

 

[Dope Nose]

it's already been done. the JSA were called before the House of Un-American Activities Committee during the 50s and ordered to reveal their identities. rather than do so they retired.

 

[nightstreak]

Waht is this Civil War, thing? What is going on with it?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

it's already been done. the JSA were called before the House of Un-American Activities Committee during the 50s and ordered to reveal their identities. rather than do so they retired.

That's about the long and the short of it, really. Also, I doubt it'd happen in DC's present-day setting since the government already has a crapload of metahumans working for them. The Battle for Bludhaven mini shows how formidable the US government's metahuman forces are.

 

[BrianWilly]

If trying to control and register people like Spider-Man and Daredevil is going to be a pain in the ass for SHIELD, then trying to register people like Green Lantern and Martian Manhunter is going to be right up there next to really frikkin' impossible.

The DCU public has always had a much more amiable relationship with their superheroes than the Marvel public does, and both companies readily admit and encourage this persona.

A lot of the registration act has to do with secret identities, too, and a lot of DC's superheroes don't even have secret identities. It didn't quite used to be this way but it's gotten more and moreso like this as time went on. Most people think Superman is just Superman all the time; he doesn't wear a mask, after all. Wonder Woman was, until recently, a public governmental official.

The rest of the registration act has to do with training and maintaining professional reprehensibility for costumed heroes and, as Kyle mentioned in the WW3 arc, people like the JLA are the professionals. And younger heroes are trained all the time, with supervision and chaperoning, in teams like YJ or the Titans or even from their adult mentors that they are "legacying" off of.

As flawed as I think the registration act is, I have to admit that it makes a certain kind of sense for the Marvel universe. Not so much for the DCU.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Waht is this Civil War, thing? What is going on with it?

Long story short, the Marvel Universe government is trying to pass a law by which all superhumans would be required to register their identities & be under government jurisdiction. So far the mutants, & guys like Spider-Man & Captain America are steadfast against it, while Iron Man & the FF (whose identites are alreay known to the government anyway) are supporting it.

 

[storyteller]

Well iron man may have a plan since tony isnt supposed to be the current iron man(i mean hell he just payed a merc to attack him).

Dc wont get a civil war like this(well not for a long time and massive changes). Yeah plenty of heroes already are revealed and well plenty of the masked ones who cant change face are known by the government anyhow.

 

[Chris Wallace]

1-The higher-ups know that Tony is Iron Man. And those who don't would find out if the bill got passed.
2-his only plan so far seems to be roll over & accept it b/c they can't do anything to stop it.
2-I'm not saying it WILL happen in the DCU; I'm simply asking "What if?"
I figure the biggest opponent would be Superman, simply because if Lex luthor can get himself elected President, than Supes can't trust that his identity would be safe w/the government.

 

[Dope Nose]

I figure the biggest opponent would be Superman

I'd say Batman.

 

[Harlekin]

I'd say both. Superman would never go along with forced registration.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I'd say Batman.

Why Batman? Granted he'd have a lot to lose, but why would he oppose it more strongly than Superman?

 

[Chris Wallace]

Oh, wait-I guess my President Luthor argument supports that, since Bats wanted to go after Lex while he was in office.

 

[marcofthebeast]

I think batman would have just as big of a problem as superman would, but I think batman would be capable of avoiding he probably has plans specifically made for that situation. Green Arrow would probably feel the strongest against it 'cause the man is always trying to bring him down.

 

[Marvin]

if it were going to be anything like marvels than Batman would be in Tonys position, and go along with it(kinda)
just considering he may have a problem with un properly trained youths or people being chosen out of the blue to have lantern and godly powers without his(nightwing/robin) or any training at all...

-notice his satllite up in the sky
-notice his contingencies

Superman just trusts people simple as that...everyone but lex, and Lex would be for it, so...

and that just like marvel has the two premiere hero comunity heads against each other

nightwing would be against batman, and so would robin(due to their friends)

and we'd essentially have us another Kingdomcome

 

[Harlekin]

Nah, Batman would oppose it, because in the end, he only really trusts himself, and he knows the trouble the government has caused superheroes over the years. Heck, the fact that somebody like Luthor could get the presidency would probably be one of the reasons most superheroes would oppose it.

 

[Lackey]

Exactly, which makes it rather odd, to me, for a man as wise and brilliant as Reed Richards to just bend over and take it.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Or Someone Just Shy Of His Intelligence, Like Tony.
But I Think Reed's Just Figuring That Since His Identity's Been Public Knowledge From The Get-go, He's Got Nothing To Lose & Neither Should Anyone Else.

 

[Chris Wallace]

So Who Could You See Going Along With It? Maybe Nobody In The Wake Of "Identity Crisis". "Justice" Is Another Reason.

 

[Dope Nose]

Green Arrow would probably feel the strongest against it 'cause the man is always trying to bring him down.

heh heh, yeah, that's totally Ollie.

 

[Marvin]

realistically speaking it's hard to see anyone in the marvel universe "going for it" but for stories (and Quesadas pockets) sake, some of the characters had to be...

Tony and Reed have no business feeling the way they feel but in the long run of things they are the ones who fit best(even if just barely) into that category in the story.

if some writer had to do the same with the DCU Batman would be in Tonys shoes!

(as forced as the who Satillite was, Batman was the character they had to use)

 

[Chris Wallace]

Again-the Only Excuse Tony & Reed Have Is Having Nothing To Lose. As For Batman, I Can't See Him Going Tony's Route Because He Himself Is Held In Suspicion By Authorities. And Given The Fact That His Crusade Has So Often Involved Children, He'd Want To Keep The Government As Far From His Affairs As Possible.

 

[Varient]

If the governemnt introduced a "Superhuman Registration Act" in the DCU, what do you think would happen? Who'd fight it & who'd go along with it?

happened decades ago in DC.

 

[hippie_hunter]

if it were going to be anything like marvels than Batman would be in Tonys position, and go along with it(kinda)
just considering he may have a problem with un properly trained youths or people being chosen out of the blue to have lantern and godly powers without his(nightwing/robin) or any training at all...

-notice his satllite up in the sky
-notice his contingencies

Superman just trusts people simple as that...everyone but lex, and Lex would be for it, so...

and that just like marvel has the two premiere hero comunity heads against each other

nightwing would be against batman, and so would robin(due to their friends)

and we'd essentially have us another Kingdomcome

But Batman hates the government for abandoning Gotham City during the earthquake and creating the No Man's Land and the Luthor Administration framed him for murder.

 

[Chris Wallace]

happened decades ago in DC.

Elaborate. Elucidate.

 

[Chris Wallace]

But Batman hates the government for abandoning Gotham City during the earthquake and creating the No Man's Land and the Luthor Administration framed him for murder.

I forgot about that. Lex was behind that whole thing, with Vesper Fairchild, right?
I initially thought Harvey Dent had done it, simply b/c it happened in February 2002.