Clerks sucks

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I watched Clerks for the first time. Oh man, what a boring film. I don't understand where all the hype for this movie comes from. The rest of his movies are a massive improvement over this. The movie is one boring conversation after another. The crap that they are talking about is so mundane and crap. And the way they say things too. There's a scene with 3 guys talking, and everytime one guy finishes talking, the next guy says a line, then the other guy, it's so... what's the word... false. Yeah. Alot of the dialogue was so false to me. It must have taken Kevin Smith forever to write this movie, with such awkward dialogue. Every character thinks he's a wise ass. There's a scene where an old man is talking about tabloids, and out of absolutely nowhere one of the main characters spits in his face. The old guy runs out of the shop, and the guy spends the next 5 minutes explaining why he did it, as if it was some clever point. What a completely *******-ish thing to do. Really not funny at all.

The movie did have some funny moments. The scene where the video shop guy says "I don't appreciate your ruse" made me chuckle. But by and large, I was bored and frustrated. Each scene felt like a setup for yet another long and overdrawn joke. There are too many instances where nothing happens at all. An entire 8 seconds or so goes by as Dante serves a customer, with no words being exchanged. A hockey game insues, with takes up about 5 minutes of nothingness. I found it hard to pay attention afer awhile. I looked at the runtime, and sighed deeply as I realised the flick was only half way through.

Just what is meant to be so good about this movie? Bad acting, which I wouldn't have minded so much if the dialogue was more interesting. Cheap camera work. It just felt so mundane. It feels like watching co workers chat, and not being involved in the conversation, and what they're talking about is rubbish anyway.

Avoid if you're intelligent.
 
No wonder Vicki doesn't like you.
 
First off Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarrantino are both in the same boat, there movies about movies. The only differencei s Kevin Smith does it through dialouge while Tarrantino does it through camera shots and things of that nature.

It sounds to me though you went in expecting something other than what you got.
 
When you say camera shots and things like that, do you mean good directing?? That sort of thing??

Tarrantino is famous for sharp and witty dialogue aswell as good directing, so I don't see your point.

If you're going to make a dialogue driven movie, make the dialogue good.
 
kainedamo said:
When you say camera shots and things like that, do you mean good directing?? That sort of thing??

Tarrantino is famous for sharp and witty dialogue aswell as good directing, so I don't see your point.

If you're going to make a dialogue driven movie, make the dialogue good.

Heh, if you don't see my point you haven't seen many movies or haven't read much about film, in either case it'd be futile to argue my point.
 
You haven't explained your point very well, wise ass. You said they make movies about movies. Smith with dialogue and Tarrentino with camera shots. Tarrentino does both. Don't talk down to me again.
 
I have to agree with you kainedamo. The first time I saw it, I thought it was so damn boring with very bad acting. It was like they were just reading it off of cue cards. It wasn't a natural dialogue from anyone. Kevin Smith definitely got better at writing and directing with his other movies.
 
I liked the song that the guy from Soul Asylum & Candlebox did for the movie that played at the end.
 
i'm looking forward to clerks 2 especially after i saw the trailer with jay and silent bob! :D
 
kainedamo said:
You haven't explained your point very well, wise ass. You said they make movies about movies. Smith with dialogue and Tarrentino with camera shots. Tarrentino does both. Don't talk down to me again.

I'll talk down to you because you come off as an ass who just wants to stir up an argument but none the less, I'll take the gloves off. I don't even need to explain it... all you have to do is google it... THERE ARE TONS OF SITEs which will give you movies in which Tarantino completely rips the plot, camera angles, and everything. Hell, Tarantino says it himself, he says he steals everything from other movies... But from another film-maker, David Cronenburg

"I don't think that what I'm doing is the same as what he's doing, because I think his movies are only about movies. They're only about other movies; it's all retro, his references are never to human life, but to human life filtered through old movies. He's basically always doing remakes and pastiches of old movies - but I saw those '70s movies when they came out and they were bad then. Why do you want to do a remake of a bad '70s movie? I don't see that remaking it makes it good somehow, but what it does do is make it kind of 'post-modernist' in that it's always referring to another era and it's retro and there's always quote around everything and everything's ironic and we're always nudging and winking."
 
Clerks doesn't suck. You suck Clerks. The movie is funny because the characters are funny and they say funny things. That's what's funny about clerks. And I enjoyed it when I saw it years ago.
 
kainedamo said:
I watched Clerks for the first time. Oh man, what a boring film. I don't understand where all the hype for this movie comes from. The rest of his movies are a massive improvement over this. The movie is one boring conversation after another. The crap that they are talking about is so mundane and crap. And the way they say things too. There's a scene with 3 guys talking, and everytime one guy finishes talking, the next guy says a line, then the other guy, it's so... what's the word... false. Yeah. Alot of the dialogue was so false to me. It must have taken Kevin Smith forever to write this movie, with such awkward dialogue. Every character thinks he's a wise ass. There's a scene where an old man is talking about tabloids, and out of absolutely nowhere one of the main characters spits in his face. The old guy runs out of the shop, and the guy spends the next 5 minutes explaining why he did it, as if it was some clever point. What a completely *******-ish thing to do. Really not funny at all.

The movie did have some funny moments. The scene where the video shop guy says "I don't appreciate your ruse" made me chuckle. But by and large, I was bored and frustrated. Each scene felt like a setup for yet another long and overdrawn joke. There are too many instances where nothing happens at all. An entire 8 seconds or so goes by as Dante serves a customer, with no words being exchanged. A hockey game insues, with takes up about 5 minutes of nothingness. I found it hard to pay attention afer awhile. I looked at the runtime, and sighed deeply as I realised the flick was only half way through.

Just what is meant to be so good about this movie? Bad acting, which I wouldn't have minded so much if the dialogue was more interesting. Cheap camera work. It just felt so mundane. It feels like watching co workers chat, and not being involved in the conversation, and what they're talking about is rubbish anyway.

Avoid if you're intelligent.

Well you know what, you suck, now go away and complain about why Vicki likes Dan instead of you (possibly because you don't like Clerks) and how we should stupidly raise the minimum wage and have crappy socialised health care :mad:
 
i havent seen clerks, but i saw jay and silent bob strike back and that was pretty dumb.
 
What do you guys see in Clerks besides... 3 - 5 decent jokes?
 
The film was paid with $7000 (if that). He didnt get the greatest actors or camera in the world, but for what its worth, it had high production value and a good script that was plenty witty than any Tarantino movie, it just si happend Smith didnt end up with Harvey Keital as his backer for his directorial debut. As far as directing, Smith has proven himself since then. It also gives hope for all young aspiring struggling filmmakers that movies do not have to be Saving Private Ryan caliber to be successful.

Plus, first and foremost, its a cult-comedy, which means not everyone gets it. People who post on film boards are the ones who hvae lived the life of "clerking" with nothing better to do then think about the silly movie and comic book controveries. I'll never watch Return of the JEdi again after knwoing all those innocent contractors died.
 
Super Flight said:
is there 3 jay and silent bob movies?

Theres 5! With one more coming!
Clerks
Mallrats
Chasing Amy
Dogma
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back



and Clerks 2 coming soon
 
cerealkiller182 said:
Theres 5! With one more coming!
Clerks
Mallrats
Chasing Amy
Dogma
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back



and Clerks 2 coming soon
5? damn....i only seen one ...and that was enough for me, hehe :D
 
Movies205 said:
First off Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarrantino are both in the same boat, there movies about movies. The only differencei s Kevin Smith does it through dialouge while Tarrantino does it through camera shots and things of that nature.
Who cares? He's saying he didn't like Clerks. What has Quintin Tarrantino got to do with ANYTHING?
 
I've been a clerk and will probably be one again this summer so i totally understood why the guys acted that way in the movie. It's boring being a clerk waiting on customers and watching the clock reach quiting time... and it's like there's this invisible forcefield between the counter that turns anything behind it into some kind of robot that customers can spit on and just not care. Clerks is a movie about that wall and how stupid it is. Clerks are people too! I've met so many *******s who have nothing better to do all day than pissoff some clerk or try to **** with them. It's just surreal... I'm starting to believe this movie was a true story.
 
sithgoblin said:
Who cares? He's saying he didn't like Clerks. What has Quintin Tarrantino got to do with ANYTHING?

Because there in the same category and I bet he loves QT, it's just an interesting point to make, who cares that he doesn't like Clerks?
 
what kevin smith film do you like the best? out of the jay and silent bob ones
 

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