Clor gonna get a whuppin!

[Kitsune]

Marvel.com is wrong. Mjolnir enhances his weather control powers. They are innate.

Who should we believe, you, or the people who own the rights to the character?

 

[Son_of_W]

Who should we believe, you, or the people who own the rights to the character?

Such a logical question...

And also, this isn't the first time something's could be retconned. I think we've gotten off topic though.

 

[stillanerd]

I'm betting that during the battle, it will appear that Clor and Storm are evenly matched and then Clor gets the upper hand. But then, something happens: Clor suddenly becomes confused and wonders what is going on here and then seeing the situation around him, suddenly flies off and escapes from SHIELD custody, leaving Black Panther, Storm, Iron Man, and everyone else wondering what the hell just happened. That's because, folks, as much as I think Clor was of the dumbest moves Marvel has done, I'm afraid we might as well be prepared for what could be the cold, hard truth:

Clor was Marvel's way of reintroducing Thor into the Marvel Universe, that, as far as Marvel is concerned, Clor IS Thor.

After all, JMS is writing the upcoming Thor series and the idea of a Thor coming back as a cybernetic clone of the norse thunder god, questioning his own identity and purpose is right up JMS' alley. All he has to do is have Clor search for Mjlonir and, once obtaining it, be infused with the Odin-Power and the spirit of the real Thor and there you go. Marvel wouldn't go through this much trouble to have "Thor" be revealed to be a cybernetic clone and not do anything more with the character after Civil War is over, especially with the new Thor series coming up. I know this sucks, the closer Civil War gets to being over--finally--there are certain things that will have to be prepared for and no amount of wishful thinking will make it go away.

 

[Vartha]

Well my Whole take on this fight is Clor's Lightning comes from his hammer unlike Thor Odinson's being part of him.
Storm's is alot like Thor Odinson and I think she has a big chance defeating Clor.
The only thing Tony, Reed and Hank can possibly Clone from Thor are his PHYSICAL birth powers, his STRENGTH. You can not clone Thor's Weather powers, Hence the fake "Clammer" , "Mecholnir", "Mockolnir", damage that hammer and Clor's gone.
By the way Stillanerd, Thor Odinson will return DB that picked up Mjolnir in FF will be the new Thor Avatar as of issue 1 vol3, so there will be 3 Thors at once, Thor Odinson, DB/Thor, and Clor.
I see Clor becoming like Ultron, a sentinent being, but an ANTI-Thor if you will.

 

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

I remember someone at the Hype talking about it before. I think he was having a dream or something, but I could be wrong.

No dream, it was an arc where Loki posed as Deadpool's father.

 

[Vartha]

Who should we believe, you, or the people who own the rights to the character?

Well for one it was shown in the Ragnarok arc AND Blood Oath and explained in Blood Oath that Thor's Strength, and weather powers IN Thor he was BORN with the powers. Hence the saying on Mjolnir, you gain his BIRTH powers, nothing else.
Mjolnir is a TOOL, it magnifies his birth powers, it doesn't supply his powers.

 

[Harlekin]

I'm betting that during the battle, it will appear that Clor and Storm are evenly matched and then Clor gets the upper hand. But then, something happens: Clor suddenly becomes confused and wonders what is going on here and then seeing the situation around him, suddenly flies off and escapes from SHIELD custody, leaving Black Panther, Storm, Iron Man, and everyone else wondering what the hell just happened. That's because, folks, as much as I think Clor was of the dumbest moves Marvel has done, I'm afraid we might as well be prepared for what could be the cold, hard truth:

Clor was Marvel's way of reintroducing Thor into the Marvel Universe, that, as far as Marvel is concerned, Clor IS Thor.

After all, JMS is writing the upcoming Thor series and the idea of a Thor coming back as a cybernetic clone of the norse thunder god, questioning his own identity and purpose is right up JMS' alley. All he has to do is have Clor search for Mjlonir and, once obtaining it, be infused with the Odin-Power and the spirit of the real Thor and there you go. Marvel wouldn't go through this much trouble to have "Thor" be revealed to be a cybernetic clone and not do anything more with the character after Civil War is over, especially with the new Thor series coming up. I know this sucks, the closer Civil War gets to being over--finally--there are certain things that will have to be prepared for and no amount of wishful thinking will make it go away.

That's not gonna happen.

 

[supermarvelman]

Mjolnir is fake. It was created by Loki for Deadpool.

So what ever happened to it? Did Loki take it away? Was it destroyed? Did Deapool have the powers of Thor?

 

[supermarvelman]

Thank you for shooting yourself in the foot. There goes your whole "comparing Spider Women to Clor is comparing apples to apples" theory.up:

Dude, I didnt shot myself in the foot. Wow Thor has one Clone, all the other "Thor's" are not clones, Peter also had a clone you moron, Ben Reily. So yes it is apples to apples"

Why not answer my question and tell me the other wannabe Thor's.

Ben Reily - Clor = Clones
Spider-Woman - Beta Ray Bill = Not Clones
Arachne - Thunderstrike = Not Clones

 

[supermarvelman]

Storm who is overrated stalemating Clor is laughable. I hope Storm is prepared for an ass whipping with Black Panther crying like a little beyootch.

I love yout:

 

[supermarvelman]

I'm betting that during the battle, it will appear that Clor and Storm are evenly matched and then Clor gets the upper hand. But then, something happens: Clor suddenly becomes confused and wonders what is going on here and then seeing the situation around him, suddenly flies off and escapes from SHIELD custody, leaving Black Panther, Storm, Iron Man, and everyone else wondering what the hell just happened. That's because, folks, as much as I think Clor was of the dumbest moves Marvel has done, I'm afraid we might as well be prepared for what could be the cold, hard truth:

Clor was Marvel's way of reintroducing Thor into the Marvel Universe, that, as far as Marvel is concerned, Clor IS Thor.

After all, JMS is writing the upcoming Thor series and the idea of a Thor coming back as a cybernetic clone of the norse thunder god, questioning his own identity and purpose is right up JMS' alley. All he has to do is have Clor search for Mjlonir and, once obtaining it, be infused with the Odin-Power and the spirit of the real Thor and there you go. Marvel wouldn't go through this much trouble to have "Thor" be revealed to be a cybernetic clone and not do anything more with the character after Civil War is over, especially with the new Thor series coming up. I know this sucks, the closer Civil War gets to being over--finally--there are certain things that will have to be prepared for and no amount of wishful thinking will make it go away.

I could see Clor flying off like you said, but I dont see him becoming the real Thor. Thor is Thor, and Clor is Clor, I think Clor is gonna be around for a long time. It would be cool if he somehow made his way to Asgard and ran into Thor.

 

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

So what ever happened to it? Did Loki take it away? Was it destroyed? Did Deapool have the powers of Thor?

Thor took it.

 

[Kevin]

I can't wait for this issue. Is it coming out this week?

 

[Tropico]

Dude, I didnt shot myself in the foot. Wow Thor has one Clone, all the other "Thor's" are not clones, Peter also had a clone you moron, Ben Reily. So yes it is apples to apples"

Why not answer my question and tell me the other wannabe Thor's.

Ben Reily - Clor = Clones
Spider-Woman - Beta Ray Bill = Not Clones
Arachne - Thunderstrike = Not Clones

I'm the moron? You compared Clor to the Spider WOMEN and then you're bringing in Peter? Who's the moron? Each time I reply and shoot you down you come up with some nonsensical thing to say. I'm not gonna do your homework for you, if you want to know more about the Thor mythos so you don't go around spouting half assed comments then I suggest you do a little research.up:

 

[Kevin]

I'm the moron? You compared Clor to the Spider WOMEN and then you're bringing in Peter? Who's the moron? Each time I reply and shoot you down you come up with some nonsensical thing to say. I'm not gonna do your homework for you, if you want to know more about the Thor mythos so you don't go around spouting half assed comments then I suggest you do a little research.up:

Just stop trying. It's a waste of time

 

[supermarvelman]

I'm the moron? You compared Clor to the Spider WOMEN and then you're bringing in Peter? Who's the moron? Each time I reply and shoot you down you come up with some nonsensical thing to say. I'm not gonna do your homework for you, if you want to know more about the Thor mythos so you don't go around spouting half assed comments then I suggest you do a little research.up:

Yes you are a moron.

 

[supermarvelman]

There's a bunch of Thor clones around already (or characters that are practically Thor clones). I know they were mentioned and given links to when Clor came out and I was surprised that there was like 4 or more characters that were basically the same thing. It really makes the whole thing even more redundant than it already was.

same thing with the Spider-Women, so yes you are a moron.

 

[Tropico]

Just stop trying. It's a waste of time

Yeah, I know he's usually obnoxious but I don't know what's wrong with him this week. Between his defending the Mar-Vell crap and the inane posts in this thread it looks like he's off some kind of medication or something.

 

[supermarvelman]

I'll stop, I am just being argumentative. It doesnt help seeing Joe moon me everytime I read one of your posts, it's like trowing salt on an open wound.t:

But to me your obnoxious, I personally like Clor, I also like the idea of bringing back Mar-Vell, so I'll admit I'm argueing just to argue. So you win, but your still an onoxious moron. t:

 

[Silicon Surfer]

I like having Mar-Vell back but I don't like how they did it. If Death had sent him back to correct some sort of balance problem resulting from Annihilation I would have had no problem. It could have been presented as a deal between Death and Eternity and they would not necessarily have had to explain anything since neither of them often explain anything to mortals.

 

[stillanerd]

By the way Stillanerd, Thor Odinson will return DB that picked up Mjolnir in FF will be the new Thor Avatar as of issue 1 vol3, so there will be 3 Thors at once, Thor Odinson, DB/Thor, and Clor.

No offense but are you sure this is the case or is this just wishful thinking on your part? Granted, let me make it clear that I do not regard Clor being worthy of Thor at all, but my dislike for him does not let me ignore the idea that Clor could somehow be made to end up becoming Thor. How? Well, Thor Odinson was in hibernation the last time we saw him after Ragnarok, right? Whose to say that the only way he could escape was to transfer all of his power and spirit into Mjlonir? It's happened to him before with regards to Eric Masterson. Second, Donald Blake: just because there was one who picked up the hammer in FF doesn't mean that he's necessarily Thor. After all, the name "Donald Blake" was also used by Thor's enemies. Whose to say that "D.B." isn't actually a red herring designed to make us think that Thor is back when in fact maybe it was a scheme by Loki; after all, Loki did once create a false Thor that actually managed to hold the hammer because it was an artifical being. And JMS is writing the series, a guy who frequently plays with the relationship between science and mysticism/supernatural. For those who would argue that Clor is not the real Thor, JMS could answer that by saying "How do you know? Because he was cloned from the original? Because he was a product of science rather than just being brought back by supernatural means? Why does that make him any less like Thor? Whose to say that he doesn't have the soul of Thor? For all you know, and for all Clor knows, this is how Thor came to be reborn. Maybe all he needs is Mjlonir to become complete." After all, this was a guy who made the radioactive spider that bit Peter in reality a magical avatar of a spider-totem god and claimed he never altered the origin of Spider-Man at all.

That's not gonna happen.

I find your declarative statement very reassuring.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Storm has been capible of doing extremly powerful things,any real X-Men reader would agree.Added to previous points that this is not the real Thor,makes this in Storm`s favor.

 

[supermarvelman]

No It Doesnt

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Clor is cloned from an asguardian, meaning he has the same physical attributes that they all have: strength, speed, endurance, durability, invulnerability. then add to that the attributes of Thor: the fact that he controls lightening means he won't be harmed by it. now yes he does have some mechanical parts in him, but I'd imagine Reed Richards protected that stuff fairly well, especially since he had Tony Stark and Hank Pym looking over his shoulder and adding their two cents.

Just because he controls lightening does not mean he can not be harmed by it.One can control a car and still be harmed by one.And just because he is cloned from an Asgardian does not mean that he has all of theie physical attributes....the cloning might not have been perfect or why would he need any mechanical parts?

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

That's not very logical, at least, pertaining to the real Thor. The real Thor doesn't get his powers from Mjolnir, they are innate.

And I hope Storm gets her ass kicked.

Thors power to control the lightning and weather do come from Mjolnir his strenth is his own.