CM Punk Should Be Arrested for Impersonating the Wrestling Thread - Part 83

[NDX]

Spoiler: Two Former [BLACKOUT]Intercontinental Champions [/BLACKOUT]Confirmed for Rumble


By Marc Middleton on 01/26/2013
- PWInsider reports that former WWE [BLACKOUT]Intercontinental Champions Shelton Benjamin and Carlito [/BLACKOUT]are confirmed to make their returns at Sunday's Royal Rumble pay-per-view in the 30-man main event.

Both talents are currently in Phoenix, Arizona and are scheduled for the Rumble.

Couldn't find any lazier wrestlers to bring back, 'E?

 

[SuperBatman]

Its called long term planning. When The Rock finally loses when it matters to Cena, everybody will rejoice and can quit b*tching about the ending in Miami.

No I'm sorry but I will not Rejoice when Cena wins the title and I never will. The Guy doesn't need to win the title anymore the guy is already over as is and hist character will always be old and boring because he will never turn heel.

 

[OnTheAir]

Rock cut probably the best promo he has ever done, no stupidity or goofy jokes, it had all the directness of the first part of his promo on the first Raw of the year, with all the fat trimmed. His delivery of the part about time standing still as Puink is in the Rock Bottom and him realizing it was over, was delivered perfectly.

That was without question the best promo that Rocky has delivered since his return last year. It was exactly the tone it should be. The funny, catchphrase-filled promos are fine against people like Chris "Ayatollah of Rock & Rollah" Jericho, and Kurt "It's True" Angle...they were great wrestlers, but comedic characters at the time. Punk is not a comedic character.

This is a serious match, for the most prestigious championship in the business, which has been enhanced by WWE pushing this streak. The Rock has put Punk over as a legit threat and a champion to be reckoned with in previous promos. He needed to continue along those lines in this final, hard sell promo. The Rock didn't need to be funny with Punk. He needed to be focused, serious and angry, and he hit every note perfectly.

 

[Slushy]

Tick tock! Tick tock! Tick tock!

No I'm sorry but I will not Rejoice when Cena wins the title and I never will. The Guy doesn't need to win the title anymore the guy is already over as is and hist character will always be old and boring because he will never turn heel.

Lost at Wrestlemania 24 despite winning his only Royal Rumble match

Lost to The Miz at Wrestlemania 27

Lost to The Rock at Wrestlemania 28

Lost to Johnny Ace on PPV

Was the first guy to cash in his MITB title shot and not win the title

Failed to win the WWE Championship back from CM Punk

Lost to Dolph Ziggler on PPV

Has never won a Hell In A Cell match



He's been anything, but Super.

 

[baby_webhead]

Tick tock! Tick tock! Tick tock!

Lost at Wrestlemania 24 despite winning his only Royal Rumble match

Lost to The Miz at Wrestlemania 27

Lost to The Rock at Wrestlemania 28

Lost to Johnny Ace on PPV

Was the first guy to cash in his MITB title shot and not win the title

Failed to win the WWE Championship back from CM Punk

Lost to Dolph Ziggler on PPV

Has never won a Hell In A Cell match



He's been anything, but Super.

And yet we get matches like the Ziggler/Cena cage match on raw.

 

[Pepsiguy2]

Because Cena is persevering. You have the ****tiest year of your life so you train and train and slowly climb the ladder of ranks to be the best again. It started it December. Cena is trying to seem invincible once again and beating out a top talent like Dolph Ziggler several times, including one where you're almost.destroyed, definitely earns you some credibility and reputation again.


Jesus, guys. Use a Kayfabe POV.

 

[Havok83]

I like Punk but hoping the Rock beats him tonight. Im growing tired of his storyline and its time to move it onto its next stage

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

Hunter had the title for NINE months! While I would preferred Booker ending the reign instead of Goldberg, The Reign Of Doom came to an end. It had been a long time coming considering the dark days of RAW back then.

Ohh come on and be serious, your own example disprove the point your trying to make. Austin/rock was a feud that was built up over years and slow and steady with both developing.

HHH/Goldberg was built up over what a month 2 at max. It doesn't matter how long hunter held the belt it's the same crap of a part timer showing up getting a shot and winning with a quick sticking plaster instead of fixing the problems.

At least nell will admit he's bias against and for certain wrestlers, you try and hide it in weak arguments.

Tick tock! Tick tock! Tick tock!

Lost at Wrestlemania 24 despite winning his only Royal Rumble match

Lost to The Miz at Wrestlemania 27

Lost to The Rock at Wrestlemania 28

Lost to Johnny Ace on PPV

Was the first guy to cash in his MITB title shot and not win the title

Failed to win the WWE Championship back from CM Punk

Lost to Dolph Ziggler on PPV

Has never won a Hell In A Cell match



He's been anything, but Super.

We can both play this game and sorry but the super cent side has a hell of a lot more evidence.

Took a beating from nexus, comes back next show fine no selling

Gets chokeslamed through a spot light, next show just fine

Dominated for nearly an hour in a I quit match, hits 2 moves wins

Takes out nexus and legacy of multiple occasions single handed

Takes a beating from lesner for half an hour, hits a move wins and then gives a bloody speech.

Took the main event in 9/12 ppvs without the belt and only didn't when he was having surgery

And for the loses you mentioned how many we're clean, and as for Ziegler 1 win. How many times has cena destroyed him again after taken a beating.

 

[Slushy]

Ohh come on and be serious, your own example disprove the point your trying to make. Austin/rock was a feud that was built up over years and slow and steady with both developing.

HHH/Goldberg was built up over what a month 2 at max. It doesn't matter how long hunter held the belt it's the same crap of a part timer showing up getting a shot and winning with a quick sticking plaster instead of fixing the problems.

Wow, you come out of nowhere and take my original point of a heel getting his comeuppance and turned into completely something else. Good job!

We can both play this game and sorry but the super cent side has a hell of a lot more evidence.

Took a beating from nexus, comes back next show fine no selling

Gets chokeslamed through a spot light, next show just fine

Dominated for nearly an hour in a I quit match, hits 2 moves wins

Takes out nexus and legacy of multiple occasions single handed

Takes a beating from lesner for half an hour, hits a move wins and then gives a bloody speech.

Took the main event in 9/12 ppvs without the belt and only didn't when he was having surgery

And for the loses you mentioned how many we're clean, and as for Ziegler 1 win. How many times has cena destroyed him again after taken a beating.

People compare Cena to Hogan, but the difference is Hogan won ALL the time so when he did lose, it meant something. As for Cena's win rate ratio, its not even close.

 

[Metallo]

Couldn't find any lazier wrestlers to bring back, 'E?

I'm just wondering if they will be long term returns. Chances are high they would be jobbers to the stars/help for the greener talent but at least Shelton might do some nice spots in MITB again.

Maybe Carlito and the Colons can park Del Rio's cars for him or something.

I definitely have to order the Rumble now it's Punk vs HBK!

I sure wish that was true. HBK would put Punk over AND make him look like a million dollars in that ring. Something Rock was never as good at. I am finally looking forward to tonight though.

I think the reason he thinks Cena is the one who's going to debut the new belt is because the talk is that the reveal will happen in the middle of the year, and it's just about set in stone that Cena's getting the belt back at Wrestlemania.

Unless Cena is going to lose the belt after a few months, it does look like he'll be the one with the new belt. That would be pretty annoying, to give it to the most stale person on the roster. A new belt should go with a new, deserving face. Why they couldn't have done it last year during Punk's reign, I don't understand.

Is it set in stone that Cena will hold the title for more than a month or two? No. Can you say for certain right now that he will? You talk like WWE has NEVER had one or two month long title reigns...even for its top stars. We both know the answer to that.

Unless someone has PROOF why don't we wait before we dump on a guy for something that hasn't even happened yet. Thats not right and you know it.

Finally how is it ok to blame Cena and not Vince Mcmahon? Thats stupid.

Some people can never be satisfied. We may still end up getting a new title and that part is ignored. At this point I really don't care who brings it out myself. I'm just happy hear the ugly assed old belt may be gone.

WOW. That DDP yoga really works. props to The Snake. hopefully DDP can help Scott Hall too.

Thank you

You've still shown jack sh** for proof, Nostradamus. A concept you still can't seem to grasp. Where is it?

Spoiler

TNA Impact (Airing February 14th, 2013)

* Hulk Hogan kicks off Impact with an in-ring segment where he puts over London fans and announces a number one contenders tournament for the TNA World Heavyweight Championship.

* Matches in the tournament include: RVD vs. James Storm, Christopher Daniels vs. Magnus, Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe and Austin Aries Vs Bobby Roode. Hogan will then announce the number one contender afterwards.

* Hogan then puts Sting over as the greatest wrestler of all time. Sting makes his way out and puts over the London fans as well. Sting says he will pick three wrestlers from the World Heavyweight tournament to be his partners in a match against the Aces & 8's at Lockdown.

* Magnus defeated Christopher Daniels after a elbow drop off the top rope.

* Bobby Roode & Austin Aries argue before their match. Match ends in a double count-out when they are distracted by Chavo and Hernandez.

* Kurt Angle wrestled Samoa Joe to a no contest. Wes Briscoe and Garett Bischoff interfered in the match. Angle appeared to have his hamstring taped up.

* Tara, Gail Kim and Jessie defeated The Blossom Twins and Party Marty.

* Gail Kim asks for a Knockouts title match. Brooke gives her the match for next week's Impact. The match will be a four way elimination with Tessmacher, Gail Kim, Velvet Sky and Tara.

* James Storm pinned RVD after a Last Call following RVD missing a Van Terminator.

* Hulk Hogan comes out to announce the number one contender but Aces & 8's circle the ring. Bully Ray comes out with chain in hand followed by Sting with a baseball bat. Aces & 8s leave. Show ends.

Spoiler

TNA Impact (Airing February 21st, 2013)

* Impact kicks off with Rockstar Spud defeating Robbie E.

* Joseph Parks, James Storm, Hernandez and Chavo Guerrero defeated Christopher Daniels, Kaz, Roode and Aries.

* X Division Title match: RVD defeated Kenny King with a five star frog splash.

* Bully Ray, who was not apart of the tournament, is announced as winner. So Bully Ray will face Jeff Hardy for the World Heavyweight Championship. Bully puts over other guys in the tournament and said all he wanted was to earn Hulk Hogan's respect. Bully suggests the main event of Impact be a six man tag with Sting, Hogan and Bully Ray facing Aces & 8's.

* Samoa Joe defeated Garret Bischoff by DQ after Wes Briscoe interfered and Angle made the save.

* Kurt Angle announces he face Wes Briscoe at Lockdown.

* Velvet Sky defeated Tara, Gail Kim, and Brooke Tessmacher in a four-way elimination match to win the TNA Knockouts Title.

* Doc, Devon and Mr. Anderson defeated Sting and Bully Ray. Hulk Hogan no showed the match.

* After the match Aces beat down on Sting and the faces on the roster come out to make the save. End of show.

Can't wait for that London Impact. Curious to see what that crowd adds to the tv atmosphere.

I sure hope

Spoiler

Hogan

doesn't end up leading Aces & 8's. That would be an awful reveal.

Its called long term planning. When The Rock finally loses when it matters to Cena, everybody will rejoice and can quit b*tching about the ending in Miami.

Long term planning would have been Cena beating Rock the first time or Punk beating Rock tonight. Everything they've done since Rock's return has focused on the short term. not the long term.

You're deluding yourself if you think Rock dropping the belt to Cena is going to do anything for Cena. Its just going to be another BORING predictable Cena title win. And on top of that the aging Attitude Eras marks will just hate Cena for ending "The great ones" title reign despite it being a painfully predictable outcome. Did Rock working with and going over Truth and Miz ad Surv Series do sh** for either one of them? No.

Was Rock's hosting gig some great thing for the ages outside of of WWE's revisionist history? No. it got a nice fat write up at Wrestlecrap though.

They could've had Punk beat Nash to give him a nice, big win, but Kevin p*ssied out.

They could've had Punk beat Helmsley at Wrestlemania to give him his big Wrestlemania match and moment, but we got a lackluster match with Chris Jericho instead.

They could've easily had Punk beat Cena at Night of Champions, but failed to pull the trigger then Cena got hurt afterwards so we got sh**ty matches with Ryback.

Guess what? This is all WWE's fault.

Which all means there is all the more reason for Punk to go over Rock tonight.

More fans want to see The Rock, you know a bigger name and draw, beat Punk then Bryan. Nice try though.

As for the fans they still do the what chant. Even if Punk wins they'll still continue giving WWE their money. Rock winning or losing won't change that. If anything it might get more heat which will be good for business LONG term instead of a short term gimmick title run.

Bryan beating Punk is making a new top star...something they need right now. its called investing in the future. Something WWE USED to do. The thing that GOT them all those fans in the first place. You DO know that right?

There is no shame in Punk losing the title to one of the biggest names in wrestling history. The fact it took a superstar of The Rock's calibur to end the reign shows how well Vince trusted Punk to make it this far by having hold the belt for so long, which broke Cena's record. Now's that saying something.

No shame in losing to Rock? You just want to believe its true just so you can see your boy win the title. How about being buried by a part timer who gets handed a reign while Punks been the one busting his ass for a whole year carrying the title? Just more disrespect for Punk. A way of saying he can't hang with the previous era of guys since he also got jobbed to Taker and HHH. When they should be MAKING new stars right now its stupid to bury them in favor of the past.

by your logic there was no SHAME in Rock losing to Hogan...but thats not how it went down. It went down in a way RIGHT for business.

No I'm sorry but I will not Rejoice when Cena wins the title and I never will. The Guy doesn't need to win the title anymore the guy is already over as is and hist character will always be old and boring because he will never turn heel.

Thank you, sir. I rest my case.

Anyone saying this will HELP Cena is just saying it because they want Rock to win the title tonight in the first place.

 

[Pepsiguy2]

Goodnight Sweet Prince.



Kizarny!

 

[LOBO3315a]

Wow, mad props to Jake. Looks like he trimmed down by 40 lbs or so.

 

[Hotwire]

Predictions:

The Miz - with the Skull Crushing Finale to promote his movie

Rhodes & Sandow - Bryan and Kane had a good run. Wish Cody would shave that damn mustache of his though.

Del Rio - I have no idea why we're getting a rematch with the same stipulation used. Fu**ing stupid. I just hope Alberto retains.

Spoiler

I'm expecting Ziggler to cash in on ADR removing himself from the Rumble.

Kaitlyn - if she defends her title against Tamina. She'll win with a roll-up or
something.

Rock - He'll beat Punk just like he did with Hogan. Two Rock Bottoms and the People's Elbow.

Cena - to win his 2nd Royal Rumble.

Spoiler

although if Rumble goes on last, expect Punk or Rock to enter last minute and win.

Post these over in the PPV Predictions thread and I'll enter you into the league.

 

[Hotwire]

Maybe we'll see him tonight???

 

[Anno_Domini]

I like Punk but hoping the Rock beats him tonight. Im growing tired of his storyline and its time to move it onto its next stage

I kinda have a feeling that's why Punk's storyline has become stale as the champion because he's going to lose it...as soon as The Shield started to interfere in his matches while he was a heel, his promos has just been the same that only centered on his title reign and nothing really new, so it definitely makes you wonder if it's all coming to an end, which sucks because Punk should at least be exciting until he loses the belt. But, I honestly wonder if Punk's been so satisfied as a face that he lost some touch that he used to have when he was a heel before. And I am anxious to see him as a face again as well.

You've still shown jack sh** for proof, Nostradamus. A concept you still can't seem to grasp. Where is it?

You keep talking, you're going to sound like the biggest ass on here when it does happen, btw. Well, bigger than the ass you already are at least.

 

[Mr.?]

Maybe we'll see him tonight???

Nope, his shoulder is injured and requires surgery.

 

[TheFuture]

Fair play to Jake, but the real hard work will only begin when DDP is no longer nannying him. EDIT Nevermind.

 

[The Sage]

Because Cena is persevering. You have the ****tiest year of your life so you train and train and slowly climb the ladder of ranks to be the best again. It started it December. Cena is trying to seem invincible once again and beating out a top talent like Dolph Ziggler several times, including one where you're almost.destroyed, definitely earns you some credibility and reputation again.


Jesus, guys. Use a Kayfabe POV.

Let's flip it around. Dolph Ziggler, rising star, hits Cena with every big move he has, even has outside interference, and can't beat Cena. Cena hits him with his one move, ends the fight.

Dolph looked like a sucka. How is it going to look like he belongs in the big leagues when he's made to look so inferior?

Is it set in stone that Cena will hold the title for more than a month or two? No. Can you say for certain right now that he will? You talk like WWE has NEVER had one or two month long title reigns...even for its top stars. We both know the answer to that.

Yes we do, and we both know that there are times when WWE will give its top stars lengthy title reigns, and it would be pretty surprising if after all of Cena's failures to get the belt back that he would only be champion for a month or two. Could it happen? Sure, it just seems unlikely.

Unless someone has PROOF why don't we wait before we dump on a guy for something that hasn't even happened yet. Thats not right and you know it.

Finally how is it ok to blame Cena and not Vince Mcmahon? Thats stupid.

First, this is thread on a forum. People take the news or rumors that come out and speculate on what's going to happen. And all I'm seeing that people are taking the fact that Cena's winning at Mania, and the rumor of a new belt coming out in the middle of the year, which suggests that Cena will be the first to carry it since he could still be champion when the belt is debuted. Some people feel that a new belt deserves to be carried first by a fresh face.

Second, let's call it what it is: John Cena has a good work ethic, he is a solid wrestler and can produce good matches. However, his character is stale, and he's one of the most overbooked wrestlers people have ever seen. So much so it's ridiculous, and doesn't do favors to guys like Ziggler who need to look good as possible if he's going to be one of the main-eventers the company relies on. Cena's not a fresh face and he's almost constantly front and center.

Third, who is saying Vince isn't part of the blame? He clearly is. We complain about the booking decisions all year long. Is it Cena's fault he was still headlining pay-per-views when he wasn't going for the belt? No, that comes down to the boss' decision. Cena's staleness and booking is Vince's fault more than anyone.

Some people can never be satisfied. We may still end up getting a new title and that part is ignored. At this point I really don't care who brings it out myself. I'm just happy hear the ugly assed old belt may be gone.

I'll be happy to get a new belt too. I just wish it had came out during Punk's title reign, it could've put more emphasis on him.

Though truth be told, forget Cena--I hope Ryback isn't the one who's the first that carries the belt.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I don't know about anyone else but while I think WM29 will end up with Rock vs Cena for the WWE Championship, it won't be as cut and dry as Cena winning the Rumble tonight and Rock beating Punk.

I'm pretty sure neither will win tonight. It definitely won't be both. Cena has the greatest chances of winning IMO.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I don't know about anyone else but while I think WM29 will end up with Rock vs Cena for the WWE Championship, it won't be as cut and dry as Cena winning the Rumble tonight and Rock beating Punk.

I'm pretty sure neither will win tonight. It definitely won't be both. Cena has the greatest chances of winning IMO.

If Cena isn't winning the Rumble tonight, it'll be one of Orton, Sheamus or Ryback.

 

[SpideyFan866]

If Cena isn't winning the Rumble tonight, it'll be one of Orton, Sheamus or Ryback.

I think that Undertaker is gonna win it. They are/will be looking for a way to bring him back so he can face Cena or Punk at WM.

That's really the only way they can gt him in the Cena/Punk/Rock picture as he's gonna face Punk or Cena at 'Mania.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I think we are due for a repeat Royal Rumble winner.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I think that Undertaker is gonna win it. They are/will be looking for a way to bring him back so he can face Cena or Punk at WM.

That's really the only way they can gt him in the Cena/Punk/Rock picture as he's gonna face Punk or Cena at 'Mania.

I do think we'll see Taker, Triple H and Brock Lesnar come back soon, but I doubt it'll be tonight.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I do think we'll see Taker, Triple H and Brock Lesnar come back soon, but I doubt it'll be tonight.

IDK.

Lesnar and Triple H? Yes. We won't see them any time soon.

Taker? I think he will be involved in Rumble match or maybe even the WWE championship match itself.

 

[Dr. Evil]

There are a lot of people predicting Lesnar's involvement in the PPV tonight.