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Action-Adventure Cobra Kai - (The Karate Kid Spin-Off)

Finished Part 2. Good to have one last karate war. This part was much better than the first part. Though, it still has some wheel spinning going on.

Starting Part 3, nice to see them starting to do the callbacks to the full of the show, finally beginning to feel like the end. Really scraping the barrel of actors to bring back for cameos, though. Ready to finish the last 2 episodes tonight.
 
Well. I liked the finale enough but feel a little disappointed the way things ended with John Kreese and Terry Silver. On the one hand it was a little satisfying to watch them take each other out, at the same time, I wanted them to stick around longer, and for Silver to lose and get the punishment he deserves. I liked that Kreese died a hero, but wish he could have stuck around a little longer.

I was glad that John Kreese finally redeemed himself, but to be honest, I felt like he should have began redeeming himself after season 5. It was quite late. I just wish his redemption arc could have gone on a little longer, because it didn't happen until part 3 of this final season.

There could have been a season long arc of Kreese trying to make amends and help Johnny and Daniel battle Silver. I would have liked to have seen more of it. The fact that Silver wasn't there to see Johnny win his match was unsatisfying.

I was glad that Kreese redeemed himself, but I was slightly worried they were going to have Silver redeem himself too, which by that point, this show would have been unwatchable if they just had every single former bully turn good.

After this ending, I felt like I wanted to see the legacy continue, but I have absolutely no interest in putting Daniel and Jackie Chan together. I absolutely hated The Karate Kid remake from 2010. IT. WAS. BAD. Not really hated, but it felt disgraceful to the original. It wasn't remotely as good, nor was it even better. The moment where the kid realizes "Oh, I was learning kung fu this whole time" was no where near as effective.

I'll probably watch this "Karate Kid" film anyways, except...honestly though, I don't care about this new kid. Moreover, he will be the main character. In Cobra Kai, the only characters I cared about were Daniel, Johnny (and for Johnny, I liked Miguel okay) and I liked Johnny's girlfriend. I didn't like Daniel's wife very much. Bad writing on their part for making her the nagging b that complains about karate. Ridiculous. But having Chozen back was a big bonus. These three, and for the villains, I absolutely loved having John Kreese and Terry Silver. They're great characters, even though Silver was kind of ridiculous in the 80's, but still a fun villain.

That being said, I didn't really give a sh** about all the other kids and the high school drama, but I'll admit I had a soft side for Hawk and Demetri. The stories with the other kids getting bullied and learning karate weren't bad stories. Still, when it got right down to it, the only reason I watched this show was for Daniel and Johnny. This was a damn good series. Robby Keene was annoying and the actor wasn't very good.

Have to admit though, that high school fight in the season 2 finale was ridiculous. It went on for at least 10 minutes, and no security guards came and the fighting went on that long? Absolutely silly.

The fifth season had a good arc and such a satisfying ending, that I felt like the 6th season was a bit of a drag. At first I felt like, "Okay, another new tournament...and more drama...again?" Of course there has to be drama, but it gets annoying to a certain extent. All the teen angst. But as soon as Terry Silver appeared in the 6th season midway, I was 100% invested again.

This was a good show. I'm glad it ended though. I don't know what to expect from this next movie, but hope it's worthwhile. Kind of feel like they'll make a sequel if it ends up being successful, but all I care about is Daniel.
 
Overall I enjoyed the last part of season 6 the most but I still had a couple of issues with it.

I think everything surrounding Johnny Lawrence was done pretty well and I was happy to see him get a good ending in the show. The scene between him and Kreese as others have pointed out was possibly the best this season. And you know what, I kinda like what they did with Kreese. He's always been a bit of a one-note cartoon villain with all his "this isn't a fight, it's war" monologues but they actually made me believe that even someone like him can grow and have a change of heart. His scenes with Tory and Johnny were great. The final showdown with Silver felt a bit silly (hard to make it look exciting or believable to have 2 old men fighting) but also what happens on that boat felt so crazy and over the top compared to anything else in the last 2 episodes. Also none of the characters find out about it in the finale which felt weird?

I was fine with what they did with most of the younger cast but it did stand out to me that Devon and Kenny really were sidelined in part 3 and I was surprised they couldn't find anything to do with them at all, even if just something minor. For me you could tell the Netflix structure of having the 3 blocks of episodes impacted the writing because the big cliffhanger they needed to put on episode 10 to keep people hyped was just neatly wrapped up in episode 11 so that by episode 12 they could be back on track where they were before. Was a shame we didn't get a Julie cameo (though not surprising) and I did think the final twist of "now the 2 sensei's have to fight" felt really tacked on. I don't think that was really needed and while sensei Wolf (and the actor) did a good job of channeling young Kreese this season and chewing scenery, for me there wasn't enough established between Johnny and him to make that final fight satisfying. He was just another obstacle to take down, rather than symbolizing anything specific.

So overall I enjoyed it even if I had a couple of issues with it. I did appreciate when Robbie got injured that they didn't do the "he's out, oh no wait he's gonna fight!" again. I was really worried they would pull that twist again but was happy they restrained themselves.
 
Yeah the show clearly realized that it had too many main characters in this last season and so ones like Devon and Kenny had absolutely nothing to do in this last third, while others get kinda forgotten about once their arcs wrapped up (Kreese and Silver). It WAS weird that no one even seemed to notice they were gone other than Wolf asking where Silver was.

And yeah. That sensei fight was probably the dumbest thing the show has ever done (well, okay, it wasn’t as ludicrous as Kreese breaking out of prison but it was pretty stupid) and such a weak way to finally give Johnny his champion moment. I mean, come on. That would be like if the Super Bowl had ended in a tie and they settled it by making Nick Sirianni and Andy Reid face off in the middle of the field.

Still, the show has always leaned into its absurdity, so I guess that’s fine. As for the future of the Karate Kid franchise, I’m definitely not interested in seeing Ralph Macchio team up with proud fascist Jackie Chan. The only thing worse than Chan’s views on human rights is his acting. I can’t remember ever seeing a movie with him in it that was good so I’ll be skipping that one.
 
Yeah the show clearly realized that it had too many main characters in this last season and so ones like Devon and Kenny had absolutely nothing to do in this last third, while others get kinda forgotten about once their arcs wrapped up (Kreese and Silver). It WAS weird that no one even seemed to notice they were gone other than Wolf asking where Silver was.
The fact that nobody really acknowledged Kreese and Silver dying in such a violent way is kind of hilarious. Like if they both fought to the death and killed each other in the woods or something it might be a different story but they were on a yacht that blew up. That **** would have made the news. :o
 
Waited with part two 'till a week before and watched all the episodes in the last 2 weeks. After part 1 I had no intention caving in to Netflix' Dumb decision to split it to 3 parts.
Overall - I didn't like the season. it brought me bad memories of season 4(The worst season IMO, though this last season came very close). During the season run i could feel how they're dragging the all story. Kris redemption came way too late. There were way way too many characters in this season. Too many fillers. The last episode might be the best of the season, but, still, it wan't good.
The show should have ended with season 5.
 
Yeah the show clearly realized that it had too many main characters in this last season and so ones like Devon and Kenny had absolutely nothing to do in this last third, while others get kinda forgotten about once their arcs wrapped up (Kreese and Silver). It WAS weird that no one even seemed to notice they were gone other than Wolf asking where Silver was.

And yeah. That sensei fight was probably the dumbest thing the show has ever done (well, okay, it wasn’t as ludicrous as Kreese breaking out of prison but it was pretty stupid) and such a weak way to finally give Johnny his champion moment. I mean, come on. That would be like if the Super Bowl had ended in a tie and they settled it by making Nick Sirianni and Andy Reid face off in the middle of the field.

Still, the show has always leaned into its absurdity, so I guess that’s fine. As for the future of the Karate Kid franchise, I’m definitely not interested in seeing Ralph Macchio team up with proud fascist Jackie Chan. The only thing worse than Chan’s views on human rights is his acting. I can’t remember ever seeing a movie with him in it that was good so I’ll be skipping that one.

I think you can't judge Chinese nationals too harshly. No one is too visible or popular to not just.... disappear. Ask Bingbing Li.
 
I think you can't judge Chinese nationals too harshly. No one is too visible or popular to not just.... disappear. Ask Bingbing Li.

Possibly. But Chan has gone above and beyond in his support for the regime, saying things like people need to be “controlled” and calling for protesters in Hong Kong to be suppressed. And politics aside, he’s also a s*** father, which makes it hard to stomach him in these fatherly mentor roles.

I’m not all that familiar with Bingbing Li, aside from The Meg. I remember there being some weirdness around her not coming back for the sequel but is there more to that story?
 
Literally just kind of disappeared before it came out that she was accused of tax evasion.
 

Meanwhile, Cobra Kai‘s final episodes generated a pretty low 5.9M views, which is down pretty significantly from the first week of viewing for the beginning of Season 6. However, Season 6 has struggled to generate the viewing from previous seasons since it debuted in July 2024. It’s unclear why, exactly, though it doesn’t seem like Netflix’s delayed release strategy, spreading the episodes out across seven months helped.
 
"It's unclear why..."

Seems pretty clear to me. They stretched what easily could have been a normal 10-episode season across 15 episodes and spread them out over seven months. Eventually, people stop caring.
 
Maybe?

In other news, watching Cobra Kai content seems to have fed Rayna Valldingham, Zara's actor, into my feed. Which is,,, acceptable.
 
As many people here pointed out, there was no mention from any of the characters about what happened to Kreese and Silver. That was pretty poor decision on the writers part. The writers seriously should have considered shooting another scene or two considering all the time they had and how they spread out this season into 3 parts which was kind of a drag.

The finale not mentioning Kreese or Silver reminds me of another TV series finale that did the same thing, but I don't want to mention that series or get off topic.

As I already pointed out, it seemed like a satisfying end on the one hand for Silver and Kreese to get themselves killed, but on the other hand, it was a huge missed opportunity to write them out of the finale like that and not even get mentioned (except for when they asked where they were at the match but didn't question at after that). Killing Kreese and Silver off just seemed like a rushed ending. Those characters were the main villains even though Kreese had a change of heart, but the impact those characters had on Cobra Kai and Karate Kid legacy were massive, so it was kind of shame to not see them involved in the final tournament match. It was a letdown for me. The bottom line is, Kreese and Silver should have been involved in the finale.

To that, I say damn. To think what could have been a great moment to see Johnny attend Kreese's funeral, or just a tomb made for Kreese and possibly with Daniel visiting with Johnny at Kreese's tomb. It should have happened.

Ideally, what might have been a better ending for both Kreese and Silver is to have the same scene where they died on the yacht, except, this scene could have been used for AFTER the tournament/Johnny's victory. That would have fit better.

Johnny wins, and Silver loses. Naturally, because of what a dedicated psychopath Silver is, he'll want revenge and stop at nothing to win. So that's when Kreese steps in, on SIlver's boat, then BOOM. Then we find out what happened to them moments later.
 
I listened to The Most Potato podcast review of this and it was hilarious. Their take was that it was a good ending but that Terry Silver’s motivation at the end was beyond stupid, and I do kinda agree (“Just go away and die, old man!”). Like, I get that this was his obsession and he felt like he had nothing left but it still felt silly and pathetic that the one thing he wanted to do before his life ended was… cheat in a kid’s karate tournament lol.
 
I listened to The Most Potato podcast review of this and it was hilarious. Their take was that it was a good ending but that Terry Silver’s motivation at the end was beyond stupid, and I do kinda agree (“Just go away and die, old man!”). Like, I get that this was his obsession and he felt like he had nothing left but it still felt silly and pathetic that the one thing he wanted to do before his life ended was… cheat in a kid’s karate tournament lol.
As I recall, Silver was planning on threatening Johnny's family. I don't remember if he was to cheat again.
 
Yeah threatning Johnny's family for him to lose the fight... Wouldn't it be cheating?
Maybe I missed that and need to rewatch. On the one hand, if it was like threatening Johnny's family to make Johnny lose...that makes Silver the loser. Doesn't Silver want Johnny to lose legitimately? Seems to me Silver's whole purpose would be for Johnny, Daniel and Kreese to be publicly humiliated. Silver might use other methods to 'cheat' like having his players make illegal karate moves.
 
I enjoyed the whole series, the ending was predictable and they still made those amazing moments. I didn't like Kreese and Silver end much but it doesn't take points off for me.
 
I wasn't surprised that there was no Hilary Swank or any mention of the Next Karate Kid.
 
I wasn't surprised that there was no Hilary Swank or any mention of the Next Karate Kid.

Apparently the bit with Miyagi having two names is a reference to New Karate Kid.
 

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