Karate Kid (Remake)

[MAN O STEEL]

Interesting. Pretty low score you gave it. I thought it had enough elements from the original to make it feel familiar, while keeping a bit of it's own identity. I found that it just took things from the original and imrpoved on them greatly. (also the car scene was top notch) Totally blew the original away on nearly every level.

7.8 out of 10 is low?. Wow, I mean it's a great movie but to think it deserved anything more than that is a bit much. Yes the car scene was great & it actually beat the original's version for me in every way but the rest was almost line for line the same but not as well acted. take the scene where

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Dre & Han are at the dojo & Han gives him the present & Dre says, "Your the best friend I ever had Mr Han". The way he said it was so stilted, with no emotion behind it whatsoever that I cringed. The way Daniel says it in the original is said with such raw emotion, that you feel it when he says it.

many other scenes had the same flaw, same dialogue but worse executuion. hense why I really wanted it to try & be more it's own thing. But like i said, it's a winner for me in a big way & I love it. 7.8 out of 10 is very generous if you ask me.

 

[TNC9852002]

How does everyone feel about Jaden Smith getting top billing over Jackie Chan?

 

[GhostPoet]

7.8 out of 10 is low?. Wow, I mean it's a great movie but to think it deserved anything more than that is a bit much. Yes the car scene was great & it actually beat the original's version for me in every way but the rest was almost line for line the same but not as well acted. take the scene where

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Dre & Han are at the dojo & Han gives him the present & Dre says, "Your the best friend I ever had Mr Han". The way he said it was so stilted, with no emotion behind it whatsoever that I cringed. The way Daniel says it in the original is said with such raw emotion, that you feel it when he says it.

many other scenes had the same flaw, same dialogue but worse executuion. hense why I really wanted it to try & be more it's own thing. But like i said, it's a winner for me in a big way & I love it. 7.8 out of 10 is very generous if you ask me.

I see. It's amazing to see how tastes can differ so much. I thought it was leaps and bounds better acting than the original. But to each his own.

 

[GhostPoet]

How does everyone feel about Jaden Smith getting top billing over Jackie Chan?

I'm fine with it. Chan's been on the downslide for a while. And while he did a fantastic job in this film...I don't see anything wrong with Jaden getting top billing. He's a new, rising star and he did impressive work for someone so young. He's got a lot of talent.

 

[LostSon88]

Yup...Jaden definitely takes after his parents, his dad especially.

There were a lot of times in the film where his little acting nuances reminded me of Will...

 

[TNC9852002]

I'm fine with it. Chan's been on the downslide for a while. And while he did a fantastic job in this film...I don't see anything wrong with Jaden getting top billing. He's a new, rising star and he did impressive work for someone so young. He's got a lot of talent.

This girl I know is getting all worked up about Jaden getting top billing for some reason. I mean, I thought he would be, you know, the main character right?

 

[LostSon88]

Well...even on the movie poster of the original, Ralph Macchio name appears before Pat Morita.

I mean, its called, "Karate KID"...I don't see anything wrong with the kid getting top billing.

 

[raybia]

I greatly enjoyed the movie though I'm a kid of the 80's and grew up with the original. However that in no way stop me from enjoying the new one. Both movies will be in my list of favorites.

Not sure what the sequel will be about but I do feel it should be an original story. Hopefully it will involve an opportunity for Jackie to have some confrontations with someone on his level. The deranged teacher from the first maybe?

 

[DorkyFresh]

just got back from it. definitely not perfect by any means, but i think it lives up to the original and it definitely has heart. i wasn't diggin' Dre at first (felt he was overacting) but Jayden has shown himself to be quite the actor. he still has a ways to go, but he's one of the few kid actors that i actually like. Jackie Chan also did a great job as Mr. Han, though, i DO wish they would've let him be more comedic (his natural talent). i would've LOVED to have him as my Sifu.

so yeah, i really enjoyed it (as i knew i would) and it reaffirmed my love for Kung Fu but the sequel better be called "the KUNG FU Kid" or i'm gonna tiger claw one of the producers in the face.

 

[Kent]

It was pretty decent. Better than the original in some aspects (the actual martial arts for one, is far superior of course), worse in others. I think the film really suffered from having a younger protagonist than the original. When Mr. Han was protecting Dre from his attackers I had a hard time not thinking "Jackie Chan is beating up a bunch of kids". And Jaden Smith, while pretty good for a kid actor, still can't really muster the same performance as Ralph Macchio did in the original.

The pick up your jacket bit didn't work anywhere near as well for me as "Wax on, Wax off".
The sequence in the original when Daniel confronts Miyagi about all the work he's been forced to do, and then he realizes it was all part of the training... far more effective to me than the corresponding one in the new movie.

All in all it was better than I expected it to be.

 

[MAN O STEEL]

Han was protecting Dre from his attackers I had a hard time not thinking "Jackie Chan is beating up a bunch of kids"

He never once punched or kicked those kids. Every technique he performed was in defense only & actually made the students attack each other. So he was in no way "beating up kids". In the original, like it or lump it, he actually did beat up kids, physically, with his fist & kicks. Yes a 16/17 tear old is still classed as a kid, their minors, but I guess that's okay to you because, it's the original, so it gets a free pass.

The pick up your jacket bit didn't work anywhere near as well for me as "Wax on, Wax off".

Of course not, it's the original, it gets a free pass out of Nostalgia. But in theory it works far better than "Wax On Wax Off". See in the original it's shown that wax on wax off really only helps against one move, as shown by Miyagi, which is a high punch, which Daniel blocks. However in the remake, Mr Han shows him that the jacket technique can be used to block & defend against almost EVERY attack he attempted to utilize against Dre, whether it was a kick, punch etc etc. Therefor it was far more effective & efficient a way of training.

Still like i said, i understand your POV from a nostalgia perspective & I agree a bit, it worked better because we grew up with these movies & it holds a special place in our hearts.




Steve

 

[dark_b]

so why are people supporting a remake that is almost 80% the same like the original?

i thought that people on SHH dont want remakes but more original movies.

let me guess you all saw Splice?

 

[raybia]

so why are people supporting a remake that is almost 80% the same like the original?

i thought that people on SHH dont want remakes but more original movies.

let me guess you all saw Splice?

Because. Remake or not, it was an entertaining movie and an endearing story.

 

[MAN O STEEL]

let me guess you all saw Splice?

WTF is a Splice?




Steve

 

[dark_b]

WTF is a Splice?




Steve

thank you for prooving my point and why hollywood is doing what they are doing.

 

[MAN O STEEL]

thank you for prooving my point and why hollywood is doing what they are doing

So pretty much your not going to explain to me what you meant by mentioning Splice?. Your just going to condescendingly elude to a movie which has nothing to do with Karate Kid, but rather is a rip off of Species?. How does this pertain to the topic of the thread at hand?.





Steve

 

[dark_b]

there is no reason to explain anything. its all very simple.

 

[Tron Bonne]

so why are people supporting a remake that is almost 80% the same like the original?

i thought that people on SHH dont want remakes but more original movies.

let me guess you all saw Splice?

80%? Hardly. It had a lot of similarities and such, but it had more than enough differences to distinguish it from the original, at least how I remember it anyway.

And I did see Splice

So pretty much your not going to explain to me what you meant by mentioning Splice?. Your just going to condescendingly elude to a movie which has nothing to do with Karate Kid, but rather is a rip off of Species?. How does this pertain to the topic of the thread at hand?.

How do go from 'WTF is Splice?' to pegging it as a rip off of Species, lol? It's not even close to that movie. Though, yeah, you are right about it being kind of random and off topic

 

[MAN O STEEL]

there is no reason to explain anything. its all very simple.

If people enjoying a remake of Karate Kid annoys you soooooooo much that your willing to come into a thread & look down on those that do like it, then your only hurting yourself man. Atleast karate kid admits it's remaking a story. Splice on the other hand is just Species, but arrogantly retitled to give the vibe that it's something new. lol HAHAHAHAHA





Steve

 

[MAN O STEEL]

How do go from 'WTF is Splice?' to pegging it as a rip off of Species, lol?

Looked it up on IMDB. Clearly a ripoff, only using animal & human DNA to create a creature rather than it being an Alien, WOOOOOOW big stretch there. I mean hey, if people can come in here & rip on a movie that alot of people liked, can i not do the same?. or is there a double standard on the hype boards that I missed?.





Steve

 

[Tron Bonne]

Looked it up on IMDB. Clearly a ripoff, only using animal & human DNA to create a creature rather than it being an Alien, WOOOOOOW big stretch there. I mean hey, if people can come in here & rip on a movie that alot of people liked, can i not do the same?. or is there a double standard on the hype boards that I missed?.

You can't tell if a movie is rip off from a basic IMDB description. I've seen both films, and I can tell say they have very little in common (even their basic premises are pretty far off). And, hey, I took on dark_b for his hyperbolic ripping, too. You're both pretty far off in your assumptions and statements of these movies. So, no double standard here

 

[MAN O STEEL]

You can't tell if a movie is rip off from a basic IMDB description. I've seen both films, and I can tell say they have very little in common (even their basic premises are pretty far off). And, hey, I took on dark_b for his hyperbolic ripping, too. You're both pretty far off in your assumptions and statements of these movies. So, no double standard here

Damn you with your rational behavior, & your unbiased remarks. This is a Fanboy board, we don't talk adult here . Seriously though, you make a point. Hard to argue with that. Well played sir




Steve

 

[MAN O STEEL]

Woops, Double post, sorry. Don't know how to get rid of t:





Steve

 

[Kent]

He never once punched or kicked those kids. Every technique he performed was in defense only & actually made the students attack each other. So he was in no way "beating up kids". In the original, like it or lump it, he actually did beat up kids, physically, with his fist & kicks. Yes a 16/17 tear old is still classed as a kid, their minors

To me, this is just a game of semantics. Due to Mr. Han's actions a bunch of 8-9 yearolds got beat up.
In the original the kids are old and mature looking enough that it doesn't seem anywhere near as awkward to me.
If you don't see the difference between fighting off 8-9 yearolds and 16-17 yearolds then I don't know what to say. It really seems odd to me.

But in theory it works far better than "Wax On Wax Off". See in the original it's shown that wax on wax off really only helps against one move, as shown by Miyagi, which is a high punch, which Daniel blocks. However in the remake, Mr Han shows him that the jacket technique can be used to block & defend against almost EVERY attack he attempted to utilize against Dre, whether it was a kick, punch etc etc. Therefor it was far more effective & efficient a way of training.

How effective the training was is hardly the point in my mind though. The reason I liked this in the original wasn't because of the versatility of the moves or the technical value they had, but because of how emotionally charged the sequence was. I didn't get the same feeling from the sequence in the new movie. And I'm quite sure it's not nostalgia, as you seem to like to suggest, as I found the sequence where Dre finds out about Mr. Han's tragedy a better sequence than the corresponding one in the original (and the corresponding one is good).

Still like i said, i understand your POV from a nostalgia perspective & I agree a bit, it worked better because we grew up with these movies & it holds a special place in our hearts.

Steve... please don't pretend to know what my motivations are for liking or disliking certain aspects of films. If you want to argue my views that's fine, but if you've already made up your mind about what my inner most thoughts and feelings on things are then what's the point?

 

[nightwing06]

Sticks close but not to close to the same themes of The Original Karate Kid
Dre Parker (Jaden Smith) and his mother (Taraji P. Henson) arrive in Beijing from Detroit due to her job transfer.He makes nice with some kids,others not so much.He's beaten up by Cheng, a kung fu prodigy and bully.Soon its maintenance man, Mr. Han (Jackie Chan) to the rescue and who teaches Dre "real" Kung Fu
KK is fun at times and adds some interesting elements that add to the story and other elements that just lengthen the film,and believe me i felt every minute of the films boring spots.Did we really need a side story about Dre's "girlfriends" life ambitions?
Jackie Chan gets to stretch his acting muscles,and when the film finally reaches the tournament face off it regains its steam.
My son was on his feet clapping at the end ,partially because it was over and he could hit the bathroom.
My rating 7 ½ My son 8 ½