Sequels Concept for a completely different kind of Spider-Man film

[Kevin Roegele]

The Spider-Man comics presented the idea of, "What if a superhero existed in the real world? What if it was you?" However, they did this in the comicbook medium, using the tools of comics.

Spidey is now on film, but as with most other superhero movies, it uses mainly comicbook style conceits.

My concept is a Spidey movie using the abilities of film to tell the story as realistically as possible, thus staying true to the original idea. Spidey is the superhero who could be you, and film is the best medium to produce that convincingly.

- Filmed on digital video, almost documentary style.
- The Spidey costume is created by a 16-year old on a 16-year old's budget.
- People in the street shout abuse at Spidey.
- Peter is completely freaked out by the whole thing.
- No supervillains, the focus is Peter coming to terms with what he is.
- Cast of unknowns.
- Largely improvised dialogue.
- Action scenes are chaotic.
- Spidey is creepy to watch and the viewer can understand why some are scared of him.
- Aunt May is a very fragile old lady who needs almost constant reasurance that Peter is okay.
- Very little CGI.

Imagine if you saw a guy dressed as Spider-Man today in the steet. But turns out he could actually climb walls and lift up cars. That's the vibe I'm thinking of.

I'm seeing this as along the lines of Collateral and Thirteen.

 

[FaT_tONle]

You serious dude? What if I was Spiderman climbing walls? I'd be arrested like that dude in Europe or wherever it was... just go film that idiot and do your documentary

 

[Kevin Roegele]

You serious dude? What if I was Spiderman climbing walls? I'd be arrested like that dude in Europe or wherever it was...

Exactly. That's what would happen in real life, someone would try to arrest you.

 

[Spidey]

Gutsy, I'll give you that.

 

[Cyrusbales]

Personally, there's no point, semi-mockumentary's are notoriously a mixed bag. It would end up being seen as a comedy and fail to have any drama, there are much more dramatic stories to be told in this manner.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Personally, there's no point, semi-mockumentary's are notoriously a mixed bag. It would end up being seen as a comedy and fail to have any drama, there are much more dramatic stories to be told in this manner.

It's not a mock dock, I'm simply referring to the style of filming. Think of Michael Mann's Collateral.

 

[Cyrusbales]

It's not a mock dock, I'm simply referring to the style of filming. Think of Michael Mann's Collateral.

Even worse then.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

You guys sound like Martin Goodman.

 

[Cyrusbales]

To be honest though, what is the point?

 

[Kevin Roegele]

To be honest though, what is the point?

Because Spider-Man is supposed to be what a superhero would be like if he actually existed. Therefore, to make a routine superhero movie is not taking full advantage of the concept.

 

[The Shredder]

I actually like this different kind of approach to a Spider-Man film. Although with the general audiences, it could just as easily bomb as it could become a favourite with both fans and the masses. Which would make this type of film extremely risky at the box office, but assuming that the budget for this type of Superhero movie wouldnt be along the lines of Raimi's budget for his first Spider-Man effort, or Singer's budget for the first X-Men flick, the risk may be lessened to some degree. Personally, I would welcome a film with this type of approach in mind, as it would really drive home the idea of how Parker's life was clearly a mess, and after the radioactive spider bite, is in an even bigger mess. Which we somewhat got in Raimi's Spider-Man, only in this type of setting, it would certainly leave out alot of the glamour and admiration Spidey recieved upon his debut. Which would be both different, and interesting IMO.

 

[Cyrusbales]

Because Spider-Man is supposed to be what a superhero would be like if he actually existed. Therefore, to make a routine superhero movie is not taking full advantage of the concept.

No need to go this extreme route, just have a decent script.

 

[pjspider1C]

Sounds like the "Batman Begins" of Spider-Man - which we don't need. We've already seen Spider-Man's origin. We don't need to see it again in a different style.

 

[Visionary]

I've never found anything realistic about any comic book film, not even Batman Begins.

And a realistic approach to Spider-Man would suck, as he wouldn't be able to websling the way he does in the comics, I mean, what are the ends of those webs really sticking to? He'd be taking a cab everywhere he goes, lol.

 

[DACrowe]

Spider-Man is a very broad character though.

I would personally use grainy 35 mm if we were going documentary style of digital cameras. But Spidey is about broad and appealing.

I think people take the concept a little extreme. Stan Lee may have wanted it to be "you" but he made very populist decisions ot make him appealing to children. He may be any one of us, but I think he also meant it to be a spectacle of fun and entertainment. Hence the bright and ridiculous costume. The supervillains, the soap opera drama. That is really the whole concept of Spidey. I prefern ot picking and choosing, albeit certain directors highlight certain things. Like I'm sure if Fincher made these the comedy be less and the drama be less starry eyed and more cynical.

Also, I would not say that Raimi's first movie took away the idea of Peter being startled by it. And I think all three movies (the first two, anyway) hit you over the head that "Spider-Man could be any one of us." Particularly the train scene in SM2.

Broad and in your face. But I would never call the comics subtle, especially if Stan Lee was writing in the '60s.

And there have been compromises made. Like if we took your direction Kev. I would hate the Aunt May from the comics you mentioned. She was always a 2D character in the '60s and unbelievable. The stronger woman in the spidey movies is far mroe believable for a woman to have such dignity after losing Ben and more interesting.

As for no supervillains. Interesting concept, but again good luck getting any studio ever to sign off on that. All thoug hputting him in the midst of a Kingpin Rose crime war might be interesting...

 

[FatA$$]

how about a micheal moore spidey movie. hahahaha

 

[TLH]

No supervillians? Well you lost me there.

 

[Abaddon]

The Spider-Man comics presented the idea of, "What if a superhero existed in the real world? What if it was you?" However, they did this in the comicbook medium, using the tools of comics.

Spidey is now on film, but as with most other superhero movies, it uses mainly comicbook style conceits.

My concept is a Spidey movie using the abilities of film to tell the story as realistically as possible, thus staying true to the original idea. Spidey is the superhero who could be you, and film is the best medium to produce that convincingly.

- Filmed on digital video, almost documentary style.
- The Spidey costume is created by a 16-year old on a 16-year old's budget.
- People in the street shout abuse at Spidey.
- Peter is completely freaked out by the whole thing.
- No supervillains, the focus is Peter coming to terms with what he is.
- Cast of unknowns.
- Largely improvised dialogue.
- Action scenes are chaotic.
- Spidey is creepy to watch and the viewer can understand why some are scared of him.
- Aunt May is a very fragile old lady who needs almost constant reasurance that Peter is okay.
- Very little CGI.

Imagine if you saw a guy dressed as Spider-Man today in the steet. But turns out he could actually climb walls and lift up cars. That's the vibe I'm thinking of.

I'm seeing this as along the lines of Collateral and Thirteen.

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no thank you

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

The Spider-Man comics presented the idea of, "What if a superhero existed in the real world? What if it was you?" However, they did this in the comicbook medium, using the tools of comics.

Spidey is now on film, but as with most other superhero movies, it uses mainly comicbook style conceits.

My concept is a Spidey movie using the abilities of film to tell the story as realistically as possible, thus staying true to the original idea. Spidey is the superhero who could be you, and film is the best medium to produce that convincingly.

- Filmed on digital video, almost documentary style.
- The Spidey costume is created by a 16-year old on a 16-year old's budget.
- People in the street shout abuse at Spidey.
- Peter is completely freaked out by the whole thing.
- No supervillains, the focus is Peter coming to terms with what he is.
- Cast of unknowns.
- Largely improvised dialogue.
- Action scenes are chaotic.
- Spidey is creepy to watch and the viewer can understand why some are scared of him.
- Aunt May is a very fragile old lady who needs almost constant reasurance that Peter is okay.
- Very little CGI.

Imagine if you saw a guy dressed as Spider-Man today in the steet. But turns out he could actually climb walls and lift up cars. That's the vibe I'm thinking of.

I'm seeing this as along the lines of Collateral and Thirteen.

In the words of Lex Luthor, "WRONG!"

 

[ampersand]

I like the idea of a film like this, but why make it Spider-man? The only reason it couldn't just be a completely new character is that Spidey equals big bucks. If you aren't sticking to any of the source material, just make a brand new character.

 

[keith_v]

As unlikely it would be to actually get made, I have to admit that I would probably see it. Although the no supervillians thing... just watch the old 70's SM film.

 

[Spidey Snooch]

I like the idea, save for a few small changes I would make. Thinking about the concept and execution brought comparisons to "Marvels", which is a very good thing. It also made me think of the "Ultimate Spider-man" comic series. I think, though, for the kind of character development you're going for, a prime-time, live-action TV series might be best. I can see it on Sci-FI channel already....

 

[ThatDamnNinja]

I would like to see this idea done as a comic book. An ultra-realistic take on Spider-Man done in a graphic novel.

...of course, by ultra-realistic, I mean, aside from the getting of spider powers... I mean, basically, realistic consequences from one unrealistic event.

 

[pjspider1C]

^ So, after getting bit by a radioactive spider, you want to see Peter Parker die from being poisoned?

 

[ThatDamnNinja]

^ So, after getting bit by a radioactive spider, you want to see Peter Parker die from being poisoned?

...I was trying to avoid a reaction like that.

I mean, obviously, the powers themselves and the means of getting them would be virtually impossible, but excusing that, everything else would be realistic; i.e. how he reacts to these powers, not being able to webswing off of nothing, realistic portrayal of how the public would react to him...

It would probably result in the government hunting him down and trying to use him as a weapon, or discover his secret so they can breed weapons.